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    • #381350
      Snort McDork
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      And I hope Nina Turner is their first Presidential Candidate for 2024!!!!! [my emphasis]
      Over the last two weeks, we received nearly ten thousand nominations and votes for our party name. Now, by an overwhelming margin, we have a winner! The next major party in America will be the
      People’s Party
      Y en español, El
      Partido del Pueblo
      The People’s Party is so much more than a name. It’s a statement. It tells voters and nonvoters that unlike the Democratic and Republican parties, this party belongs to them, not Wall Street. It represents diversity, inclusiveness, and appeals to a fundamental commonality among all people. It recognizes everyone’s inherent worth. It speaks to the nature of our struggle today: not left vs. right, but the billionaire class against everyone else.
      Chip in to Power the People’s Party
      For four years we’ve diligently built the movement and, in a little more than a week, we will form the party in the first state: The Pine Tree State of Maine. All of our work has led up to this momentous occasion. In Maine, we’ll need to register 5,000 members over the next year, and we want to do it much faster to show the country how capable we are.

      In the next few months, we’ll be forming the party in many other states and our hubs will start collecting ballot access signatures. Starting the party and expanding our organizing infrastructure takes resources and, as a people-powered movement, we are as strong as you make us. Donate to show our canvassers and organizers that you support them as they get the People’s Party on the ballot. We already have local hubs in more than 25 states. If you can, become a Sustaining Donor with a monthly contribution, so we know we can count on your regular support as we head to other states.

      Donate to get us on the ballot in all 50 states
      The path to a major new party is long and we face many challenges. Powerful interests stand between us and the political and spiritual renewal we seek in America. There will be victories, and there will be heartbreaks. But by working together, through thick and thin, we will be each other’s strength, and we will transform this country, just as sure as the sun rises in the morning.

      We will pass a new social contract, make health care and pre-kindergarten to college free, guarantee a good-paying job and a basic income, end mass incarceration and bring the troops home, ensure housing for all and get money out of politics, free the nation from the grip of monopolies and trusts, provide a secure retirement and a liveable climate, and so much more. Together we will herald the Second Progressive Era in American history.

      We are grateful to be on this journey with you.

      Carol, David, Elise, Michelle, Nick, Phil, Regina, Rod, Thomas, Tiffany and Todd

      The National Coordinators’ Circle
      Movement for a People’s Party

      I'm Snort McDork and I approved this message.

      "I like birdy num-nums"

    • #381351
      retired liberal
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      Let the people know about them first.

      We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
      If you are wrong, it will be because you are not cynical enough.
      Both major political parties are special interest groups enabling each other for power and money, at the expense of the people they no longer properly serve…
      Always wear a proper mask when out and about. The life you save could be both yours and mine.

      • #381402
        eridani
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        Starting at the top is just delusional.  Especially if the party doesn’t bother with identifying registered voters and doing voter outreach.

        Jesus: Hey, Dad? God: Yes, Son? Jesus: Western civilization followed me home. Can I keep it? God: Certainly not! And put it down this minute--you don't know where it's been! Tom Robbins in Another Roadside Attraction

    • #381357
      Two way street
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      2020-2024 Campaign Season: We the People are in the fight for our lives and livelihoods.

    • #381401
      Captain Arizona
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      Also democrat sabotage with infiltrated agent provocateurs like the ones who sabotaged green partys attempts to get on the ballot in az, penn. and wisconsin.

      • #381403
        eridani
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        All you have to do to get past the primary is to come in first or second,  which she readily did.

        Jesus: Hey, Dad? God: Yes, Son? Jesus: Western civilization followed me home. Can I keep it? God: Certainly not! And put it down this minute--you don't know where it's been! Tom Robbins in Another Roadside Attraction

        • #381463
          Jim Lane
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          @eridani

          Washington uses the nonpartisan blanket primary (colloquially, the “jungle primary”), in which all candidates, regardless of party affiliation, appear on a single ballot.  That system is also used in Louisiana and California.  Alaska just adopted it.

          AFAIK, however, those are the only states where it’s used.  Everywhere else, there are procedures for picking each party’s nominee.  Then the respective party nominees appear on the ballot for the general election.  Some parties’ nominees are included automatically; other parties must submit petition signatures for each candidate they want to nominate.

          One common criterion for automatic ballot access is the party’s share of the vote for a particular office.  In New York, the state I know best, the rule for decades has been that a party receiving at least 50,000 votes for Governor has ballot access for all offices for the next four years.  That has just been changed to set a higher threshold and assess party status every two years, based on the vote for President and then for Governor.  A new party will have to submit nominating petitions in 2022 for its candidate for Governor, along with any other offices it plans to contest.  Each party meeting the threshold in 2022 will be a recognized political party for two years, with ballot access for all offices.

          This is by no means automatic.  This year, Howie Hawkins, although a New Yorker himself, received only about 23,000 votes for President, so the Green Party lost the status it had held for several cycles.  (The Libertarian Party got more than twice that many votes but also fell short.  The minor parties that retained their status were the Working Families Party and the Conservative Party.)  Assuming that both the Green Party and the People’s Party get enough petition signatures to put their candidate(s) for Governor on the ballot in 2022, they will be competing with each other, as each tries to get enough votes for automatic ballot access.

          In some other states, the threshold is based on partisan voter registration, rather than on votes cast.  This also sets up a Green-versus-People’s competition, because each voter can pick only one party.

          • #381629
            eridani
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            They run people for more than just congress and governor, with a whole slate of down-ballot candidates and lots of effort devote4d to voter contact..  If other parties were willing to do this, they’d be in much better shape.  WA State also has no registration by party, which probably helps.

            Jesus: Hey, Dad? God: Yes, Son? Jesus: Western civilization followed me home. Can I keep it? God: Certainly not! And put it down this minute--you don't know where it's been! Tom Robbins in Another Roadside Attraction

            • #381789
              Jim Lane
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              @eridani

              New York is among the minority of states that allow fusion voting.  This means that a candidate can be nominated by more than one party and combine the votes on the multiple lines.  For example, if the totals are: Republican 1,000, Democrat 800, WFP 300, then in most states the Republican would be elected.  In New York, however, if the WFP had cross-endorsed the Democrat, then that candidate wins with 1,100 votes.

              The WFP in New York almost always cross-endorses the Democrat.  I remember one local race in which the WFP cross-endorsed the Republican.  In a very few cases, the WFP has run its own candidate.

              By contrast, I don’t remember the Green Party in New York ever endorsing another party’s nominee.

              My guess is that the People’s Party would emulate the Greens rather than the WFP, i.e., would concentrate on running its own candidates.  That means that, in the next election that’s crucial for ballot access (Governor in 2022), the People’s Party and the Green Party will be competing for the same pool of voters — those who are willing to effectively abstain from the race that will pick the Governor, a race that will almost certainly be Democrat versus Republican.  Will the Greens and the PP coordinate to nominate the same person?  I don’t know.  We’ve all seen how these disputes on the left can be total war (Judean People’s Army etc.).  Even if they cross-endorse, though, each individual voter can vote for that candidate on only one party’s line, and thus help only one party get automatic ballot access for the succeeding two years.

              You focus on the WFP’s outreach efforts.  To be fair, you should note that the WFP has an easier task than the Greens.  Because of fusion, a vote for the WFP is not effectively an abstention in the choice of the next Governor.  In 2018, the WFP was going after people who were voting for Cuomo anyway, and asking only that they vote for him on Row E (WFP) instead of Row A (Democratic).

              While the WFP does have “a whole slate of down-ballot candidates,” those are almost always the Democratic candidates.  That fact, rather than outreach, explains why the WFP can claim to have elected scores of officials.  For all the outreach by Socialist Alternative that you laud, my impression from the Wikipedia article (link) is that the party has won no elections other than getting Kshama Sawant on the Seattle City Council.

              • #381819
                eridani
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                However, many states were really scared of voters supporting both the Populists and the Democrats, and made sure it was abolished.  WFP takes advantage of a useful situation, but most other minor parties don’t.

                Jesus: Hey, Dad? God: Yes, Son? Jesus: Western civilization followed me home. Can I keep it? God: Certainly not! And put it down this minute--you don't know where it's been! Tom Robbins in Another Roadside Attraction

    • #381439
      doh1304
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      But be careful about that idpol “diversity” and “inclusiveness” stuff, that’s American cultural revolution speak. You really don’t want people to think you’re on the wrong side.

      • #381591
        JonLP
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        I miss it when I was a non-partisan apolitical person. All that stuff such as diversity just came natural especially growing up in a state that is diverse like Arizona.

        Also equal opportunity briefings in the Army stressed these things. It wasn’t considered a “cultural revolution” to treat people as people.

        Let this radicalize you rather than lead you to despair - Mariame Kaba

    • #381464
      Ohio Barbarian
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      It’s tougher in Ohio. There are two routes–a certain number of petition signatures to get on a statewide or district ballot to begin with, and if the party gets enough votes, it can have its own primary next time and get on the ballot that way. Unlike the West Coast, we have no jungle primaries here, so it’s not nearly as easy to succeed as a third party as it is in places like Seattle.

      I don’t know the details. If the People’s Party wants to succeed, it must have people to know the details in every state and come up with a strategy for meeting they myriad of differing requirements if they are going to get broad ballot access by 2024.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #381474
      Pam2
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      ..that always was the name! 🤔

       

    • #381483
      retired liberal
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      Not this partizan, gerrymandering, hodgepodge we have now.
      While I can see why we need to pick a party ballot during the primaries, I think ALL third parties should be on both the Democratic and the Republican primary ballots. Give us an actual choice! As of now the candidates on the ballots are chosen for us beforehand and any third party choices are often denied access to the ballot through rules designed to deny that access.
      Case in point for being chosen during the primaries, is Bernie packing sports stadiums and Hillary and Joe, at best filling one end of gyms… Maybe. Yet the ones no one wants won anyway.

      We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
      If you are wrong, it will be because you are not cynical enough.
      Both major political parties are special interest groups enabling each other for power and money, at the expense of the people they no longer properly serve…
      Always wear a proper mask when out and about. The life you save could be both yours and mine.

    • #381632
      Snort McDork
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      That and working your butt off to get your name out there-unless you are lucky to have a great fundraising team to buy you some ad’s.

      I'm Snort McDork and I approved this message.

      "I like birdy num-nums"

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