MSNBC Is the Most Influential Network Among Liberals—And It’s Ignoring Bernie Sanders

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    • #224156
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      When the network’s primetime pundits do cover Sanders, they cover him more negatively than Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden.

      ONCE KNOWN AS THE LONE, FORTHRIGHT VOICE OF LIBERALISM on cable news, MSNBC began a lurch to the center in 2015 with its new chairman, Andrew Lack, going on a conservative pundit hiring spree and shedding the network’s “Lean Forward” branding.

      Even so, MSNBC is positioned to have an outsized influence on the 2020 Democratic presidential primary.  According to the Norman Lear Center, liberals watch MSNBC at (respectively) three and 10 times the rate of more moderate and conservative viewers. After Fox News, MSNBC is the most-watched cable news network, beating out CNN. What’s more, the median age of MSNBC’s audience is 65—and older voters turn out in high numbers in primary contests.

      To understand how MSNBC may be shaping the 2020 election, In These Times analyzed the network’s August and September coverage of the Democratic presidential contest’s leading candidates—Sen. Bernie Sanders, former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Elizabeth Warren. We focused on the network’s flagship primetime shows: The 11th Hour with Brian Williams, All In with Chris Hayes, The Beat with Ari Melber, Hardball with Chris Matthews, The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell and The Rachel Maddow Show.

      In These Times tallied how often the three candidates were discussed and logged whether the coverage was positive, negative or neutral. For example, while poll results by themselves (whether favorable or unfavorable to a candidate) were simply logged as neutral, commentary about a candidate “surging” was logged as positive and “stagnant” as negative. Clips and previews for upcoming segments were not included.

    • #224218
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      Well….liberals aren’t necessarily progressive.


      I feel much better since I gave up hope.

      "If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there’d be peace." – John Lennon

    • #224241
      Mr. Mickeys Mom
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      I don’t think they are any different than any other corporately run cable news network. They felt it more profitable to fire anyone who rubbed against the business plan, so they fired Phil Donahue, Keith Olbermann and Ed Shultz. They promoted sycophants like Rachal Maddow and Chris what’s his name… all forgettable for how smart they are because their moral compass pointed towards dollar signs.

      People who are no longer intellectually curious get their fill of “personality news” on MSNBC and go on after that particular show thinking they understand their world.

      Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

    • #224299
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      Like Fox Noise, MSDNC is the propaganda voice of corporatism.

      I have friends who leave Fox on their tv 24-7, I have friends who leave MSNBC on their tv 24-7 as well.

      These friends recognize that their “opponents” are propagandized but inexplicably can not see the same propaganda bombarding themselves regardless of what data I present to them.

      Neither group of friends get it that they get corporate news designed to keep them at each others throats.

      Like Democratic and Republican politicians, MSNBC and Fox News are two sides of the same coin.

      Neither serve the needs of the citizenry. They only serve the goals of their corporate masters.

    • #224313
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      Fox and MSNBC especially are openly biased.  But the rest of US mass media is just a smear of something in between.  I’m totally put off by it all — it’s all variations of mirror image CT, pasting antitheses of it back and forth and making no sense at all as a political statement.  And all the blogs promoting variations of it, extensions of it, like hooray for our in the know side, as if that was something avant garde.

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      Analysis of Primetime MSNBC Programs Finds Sanders Received ‘Least’ and ‘Most Negative’ Coverage of Top 2020 Democrats

      –64% of the 240 episodes examined discussed Biden, 43% discussed Warren, and 36% discussed Sanders;
      –25% of the episodes only discussed Biden, while just 5% mentioned only Warren and 1% mentioned only Sanders;
      –Sanders had the highest percentage of negative mentions (20.7%) and the lowest percentage of positive mentions (12.9%);
      –87% of Sanders’ negative mentions came from Matthews’ Hardball and Williams’ 11th Hour;
      –Warren had the lowest percentage of negative mentions (7.9%) and the highest percentage of positive mentions (30.6%);
      –11.3% percent of Biden’s mentions were negative.

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    • #224919
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      I haven’t watched MSNBC since they took Olbermann off.

      I guess I’m not a “liberal.”

      I don't waste my time teaching pigs to sing.

    • #224923
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      MSNBC is influential only among the Vichy dems – the liberal elites of professional managerial class. Everybody else has stopped watching or believing any word they say.

      It’s simply the class enemy media, and that’s all you need to understand about its bias.


    • #224927
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      The problem is not MSNBC, but Democrats who believe the MSM.

      Progressives who inform each other online, are all about Sanders, Gabbard and Yang. It’s online where people people following conservative and libertarian media bubbles can be engaged in constructive dialogue and won over, if progressives can leave their own comfort zone.


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      David the Gnome
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      Is there any voice left on the major news networks that dares to fight back?  I havent watched in a good while, but after the 2016 primaries I dont recall hearing any.  At least none that were given much attention.

      If we think about it, this is simply another step taken by the rich pricks (ruling elite) to see to it that only certain points of view are given voice.  You may note that all of the 24/7 stations run more on opinion and political bias than the actual news of the day.  Some call it entertainment – I call it brainwashing.

      Two supposedly opposing points of view that bicker all day long.  It has gotten to the point that, now, any real momentum for change grinds to a halt against the institutionalized obstruction of the ruling elite.

      Doesnt matter if it was planned or just a natural progression due to greed, ignorance and the growing polarization.  Mainstream news is not there to tell us the facts – it is there to tell us how we should think about them.  Their own opposing versions of the truth.

      While we argue with each other, the ruling elite put on a show of giving a shit, resisting or supporting the powers that be.  Only a very few have challenged our true enemies – the rich pricks that dominate all three branches of government, various religions,schools, the media…

      If this sort of “natural progression” of rich prick governance continues… the next steps will not be pleasant.  First, they will go after what independent, trusted journalists and truth tellers remain.  Several examples of this in the last year alone.

      While this is happening, they will also begin rewriting laws to eventually heavily censor and regulate what can be discussed on social media platforms.  In time, any voice that breaks or interrupts their narrative will be considered a threat to National security.

      So the people with the knowledge to understand what is happening will have to gather in secret, in small numbers, even to discuss what is happening or what to do about it.  In these small numbers, in this state of mass surveillance, it will be all too easy for the ruling elite to silence those small groups.

      Meanwhile, the rich get richer, everyone else gets poorer and sicker – and climate change eventually hits either the “reset”, or “extinction” button for our whole damn species.

      Think it cant or wont happen?  It is happening right the hell now – and most of us havent got a damn clue.  When the Washington post and their propornot prop attempted to label various social media platforms (including JPR) as tools of Russian propaganda, it hinted at what is to come.

      Many more steps will taken that eliminate freedoms in the name of national security and fighting propaganda – while the true masters of propaganda hold all the cards.

      At present… it does not look good.  I think Sanders is our best chance at starting to make some headway here… but I am by no means confident that that will even be permitted.

      If they cannot cheat, ignore, smear or otherwise turn him to silence, it is likely that they will use a more direct method.  Against him – and in time against all of us.  It is not so far to go from “Russian propagandist” to traitor, enemy of the state, or terrorist.  Who determines if we are such?  Why, the state, of course, in all its corruption.

      If you arent pissed off, you arent paying attention.

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