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  • Ohio Barbarian (9071 posts)
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    My amazing primary election day, and Kucinich's last speech

    In the tradition of several JPRers, notably one @davidthegnome, I thought I’d share the story of my weird, satori-filled day yesterday that even a Zen master could draw lessons from.

    First, I went into my cubicle at work and the IT people showed up shortly thereafter to install a new computer, only six weeks late, pretty good by county standards I’m sorry to say. It took them about an hour, then it took me another couple of hours to get everything set up the way I liked it, so the morning was pretty much shot.

    After lunch, the rumors started swirling through the cubicles like a fresh spring wind: The tyrannical, temper-tantrum throwing, pettily vicious director whose gross mismanagement of the agency has prevented us from doing our jobs in any kind of effective way was out. The director who had promoted only unqualified sycophants, who had made the agency top-heavy and filled with useless meetings for the spewing of management propaganda right out of management textbooks, the woman who had driven off some of our very best people, was on her way out.

    In a place where management usually lies, the rumor mill is often more accurate. Yesterday was no exception. While there was still no official announcement, very reliable sources leaked the news that her security clearances had been pulled. So it was true: Ding dong! The witch is dead! There were literally people singing that Wizard of Oz song in their cubicles among others. I thought Jeremiah was a bullfrog was appropriate. Joy to the fishes in the deep blue sea. Joy to you and me!

    Then I came home and heard more of the ongoing soap opera story of one of my stepdaughter’s friends, a total psychopath in her mid-20’s who can’t hold a job, has unprotected sex with men she picks up in sleazy bars, who uses abortion as a method of birth control, but got so fat she didn’t realize she was pregnant until it was too late to have one legally, and still lives with her parents, had finally informed her mother she was pregnant. By text.

    Her mom responded by taking her out for ice cream. Dad still didn’t know. Stay tuned for another exciting adventure of Amber(not her real name) in the next episode of As the White Trash Churn. Surreal.

    From there to vote for Dennis, a couple of other downticket Dems who are all right in my book, the renewal of a tax levy that helps pay my salary, and an amendment to at least restrict gerrymandering. There was no line at all. Not a good sign, not at all.

    Home again. I played Daily Trivia here. @deadpool made the mistake of using a football clue as a hint and I got the correct answer first. A strange day, indeed.

    Then the news came. Dennis Kucinich was being crushed by a Democrat who takes PAC money, has an A rating from the NRA, and the vocal endorsement of Barack Obama. Dennis didn’t even carry Cuyahoga County. Not even close. Black derangement syndrome lives! All those people I’ve talked to who said they agree with Dennis but that he couldn’t win so they did what the Democrats and most of the media told them to do–they voted for Cordray, who has as much chance of generating the high voter turnout necessary for a Democrat to win Ohio as a ground hog does of crossing a highway at rush hour.

    SLAM! Black, dark depression sinks in. I watched a documentary of the battle of Chosin Reservoir in 1950, the single most disastrous defeat in the history of the United States Marine Corps in the campaign that proved Douglas MacArthur was capable of making unacceptable mistakes. I felt out of control, helpless, so did something I could control: the dishes. Then, finally, sleep.

    I forgot to mention I had the spring yard cleanup done yesterday, and so many pollens and allergens kicked up that I now have a splitting sinus headache as I wait for the Benadryl to kick in, which will probably knock me out. I am in no condition to drive, or to work, and I’m not even hungover, more’s the pity. But this morning, I finally saw Dennis’ concession speech, if you can call such an optimistic rant a concession speech, and it helped. Thanks, Dennis. Here it is:

     

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    • davidthegnome (2565 posts)
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      1. I was pissed yesterday

      Among the several reasons why was the loss of Kucinich.  It was not a day for good news.  I kept asking myself, over and over again “Why am I so angry?  Why can’t I just chill?”  Then I saw a particular thread at SV that someone pointed out – and it pointedly demonstrated why.  For a long time now, the “lesser evil”, or, “progressives/liberals can’t win” argument has worked.  It has worked to defeat candidates that have integrity – that stand on the right side of issues and of history.  It has worked to block a single payer option for healthcare, to block tens of millions of Americans from bothering to engage in politics.  It has worked in the favor of corporate welfare, greed, war mongering, the endless build up of the MIC.

      It is not only this “lesser evilism”, but the contempt and even hatred that many of our “old friends” at SV and in other places feel for us.  Even the most rational arguments in favor of progress seem to be laughed at by such people.  For the status quo, they do not blame themselves or their flawed logic – but everyone else.  To them, every single Trump voter is a racist ignorant asshole.  To them, every one of us who voted for Jill Stein is a traitor to everything good and true.  To them, we are Russian propaganda or worse.

      Pulling out of the Iran deal and the likely results… the loss of one our oldest and strongest voices for progressive values (Kucinich’s campaign excited me as almost none do), Manchin, treacherous DINO POS that he is – wins another victory.  I walked a line somewhere between extreme depression and extreme anger.

      Kept thinking to myself… “How can people be so stupid?”  And other, similar, unkind things.  Then I see posts like yours and hear a speech such as given by Kucinich, and I remember what I’m here for.

      The dark depression is hitting me today, too, but as long as I’ve got friends like you and allies like Dennis, I’ll take it.  However many hits we take from the darker forces of this Country, I’ll take them and keep on going – because I’m not in it alone.  We are united in our revolution for the people of this Country, for the poor, for the environment, for peace.  For so much that is good and progressive.  We will not win every battle, the odds right now are very much against us as we are (generally, most of us) taking on both the establishment democrats and the republican party.

      Maybe we won’t win this year, or next year, or in ten… but eventually, people will get tired of being shat upon.  They will realize that voting for things they actually want, for people that will fight for them, is a better idea than voting for the candidate “most likely to be able to win/lesser evil/not a republican”.

      Man, who am I kidding?  I’m still pissed off!  And depressed.  But I’m with you man, come highs or lows.  Good post.

      Recommended for the daily radical.

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      • Ohio Barbarian (9071 posts)
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        7. Thanks. At least both major party candidates for governor for funny looking.

        Cordray looks like a European version of an Easter Island statue with that elongated head of his, while Dewine reminds me of a constipated turtle. Picture Mitch McConnell after overdosing on Lo-motil, and you’ll get the idea.

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      • Major Hogwash (3883 posts)
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        13. Do you live in Ohio?

        Kucinich was a good candidate, but he got outspent by quite a bit.
        Money is the biggest problem in politics right now, and the DNC is one of the major problems adding to the crazy rush to get more money.
        So, Cordray will probably lose this fall to Dewine.
        Cordray may be able to raise some cash for the General election this fall, but Dewine will outspend him, so he has a much better chance of becoming Ohio’s next Governor.

        Didn’t Trump beat Hillary in Ohio in 2016?
        So, I don’t think Ohio is going to change their minds much in just 1 and a half years.
        It’s not smart politics to run 2 centrist candidates against each other, and there’s not much difference between Dewine and Cordray.

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        • kath (634 posts)
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          14. Money. Is. The. Biggest. Problem. In. Politics. Right. Now.

          Sing it, brother (or sister)!!

        • Ohio Barbarian (9071 posts)
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          30. I agree. The biggest difference right now is Cordray is for continuing Medicaid

          expansion and Dewine says he wants to undo it, but he probably really doesn’t. This campaign may well be one of vague platitudes from both major party candidates–Dewine talks about making Ohio prosperous, Cordray makes weaselly noises of “moving forward together,” a blatant Hillaryism that makes most people here want to :puke:

          And, of course, there will be massive attack ads aimed at Cordray and linking him to such hated Democratic politicians as Pelosi, even though he’s really not tied to her in any direct way. They’ll work, too. Most people will either stick with the devil they know–Dewine–or not bother to vote.

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    • carrotguy (424 posts)
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      2. Cordray spent a lot more money that's for sure

      not to dwell on any particular topic but the link below states that gun control was some focus – i’m too ignorant about Ohio to draw any real conclusion.   in response to one item in your post, I don’t think it’s necessarily true that Cordray will discourage people from voting but it will be interesting to see.   Don Cheto has so much baggage we might see enough “middle of the road” light-minded types come out to vote for the DNC machine.    the natural result would then most ideally be progressive light politics and heavy capitulation ala the IWR vote with nothing to stop the path of the wrecking ball

       

      https://ballotpedia.org/Ohio_gubernatorial_and_lieutenant_gubernatorial_election,_2018_(May_8_Democratic_primary)

      • Ohio Barbarian (9071 posts)
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        20. Kucinich made some remarkable headway by emphasizing that issue. He proudly

        wore a button with a black F in a red circle on a white field, representing his lifetime rating from the NRA. Cordray has an A rating from them. About a month ago, they were tied in the polls and the Democratic establishment panicked. They trotted out Obama, who was in several Cordray commercials. I don’t know if they reached out to Elizabeth Warren, who endorsed Cordray early on, or not, but she stayed out of the campaign itself.

        They made a lot of hay from the fact that Kucinich had taken $20,000 from a local, pro-Assad Syrian group to speak of peace to a convention of like-minded people in London. This was really no surprise, and not a big deal at all compared to what the Clintons and Obamas have done, but it made the local news, not to mention places like SV. They called Dennis a terrorist sympathizer and friend of brutal dictators. Anything to keep him out of the governor’s mansion in Columbus. With the notable exception of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, most of the local media joined in on the poutrage.

        Cleveland has the second-largest Arab community in the country, mostly Christian, mostly Lebanese and Syrian, with a contingent of Coptic Christians from Egypt and a few Palestinians. The Muslim community here is mostly African-American. There’s an Islamic Center(guess they figured that was less provocative than “mosque;” they were wrong) right down the street from me in Richmond Heights. They were harassed and threatened so much from right wing assholes that there is a permanent police presence there to protect them. Even at night there’s usually a police cruiser visibly stationed there.

        Kucinich had the potential to bring new and lapsed voters to the polls in what could be a wave election and swamp Mike Dewine. Cordray’s a typical, uninspiring, milquetoast DNC-type who couldn’t scare a raccoon away from the garbage. His only hope is that Sherrod Brown can generate some turnout in facing down rabid rightwing Republican Jim Renacci in the US Senate race. OTOH, Dennis would have guaranteed Brown’s re-election, but Cordray is so uninspiring that he could actually depress Democratic turnout in November, IMHO.

        If Renacci wins, the Democrats have no one to blame but themselves for losing a chance to regain control of the Senate.

         

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    • davidthegnome (2565 posts)
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      3. Damn

      I just posted a long, thought out reply but it just got erased for some random reason.  Anyhow… K & R and love for Ohio Barbarian.  Don’t forget we’re in this together man, I struggled with my lows, with my anger yesterday more than I have in some time.  I still can’t believe Kucinich lost, with all the other awful news we got yesterday.

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      • Ohio Barbarian (9071 posts)
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        8. I can believe he lost, but not by 40 points. The last poll had Cordray at 30,

        Dennis at about 15, the others totaling about 15, and 41% undecided. It’s like 3/4 of the undecided vote had to go to Cordray, but the state senate and representative primary races were closer than that. It’s even hard to believe that Dewine beat Wacky Mary Taylor by 20 points. Of course, the current Secretary of State, Jon Husted, is Dewine’s running mate. We still have electronic voting machine tabulators–it’s a paper ballot but an electronic scanner–and there was a Sec. of State who tampered with an election before here.

        I am suspicious, but I’ll never have any evidence. Recounts aren’t allowed unless it’s less than 1%. OTOH, if the totals are accurate that’s even worse; Ohio just proving it’s the most uneducated large state in the country yet again.

         

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    • duckpin (7367 posts)
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      4. I'm sorry for you & the people of Ohio.

      At least you have the possibility of a better work environment.

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      • Ohio Barbarian (9071 posts)
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        9. The mood at work is so much lighter and happier now it's incredible. The day

        the news officially broke, a lot of people put on smiley face buttons; the same buttons the unlamented former director had encouraged us to wear years ago in her idea of improving morale.

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        • duckpin (7367 posts)
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          17. An oppressive work environment is debilitating: It never goes away & can

          be taken home. I am glad things have improved with the replacement of the manager. Best of luck.

          "The justness of individual land right is  not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged "
    • PennLawyer (2772 posts)
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      5. Keep on Keeping On, OB. You are a JPR treasure!

      Good riddance to the Manager from Hell – hope she takes some of her sycophants with her.  Sounds like there’s no way to go but up.  Very sorry to hear about Kucinich’s loss.

      I enjoy your rants  – I agree with your point of view, and you state it so well, and make very entertaining observations.  Really laughed over “As the White Trash Churns!”  And god knows we are all in need of a good laugh in these insane days.

      • Ohio Barbarian (9071 posts)
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        10. LOL! Glad you liked it. The sycophants are either sweating or calling in sick.

        Some of them hadn’t taken a day off in months in order to impress Her Majesty. Many missed three days in a row, which only further improved the general mood.

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    • ThomPaine (5715 posts)
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      6. Sad day indeed. Thanks for the post. Do we know if the DNC supported

      Kucinich?  How about Justice Democrats?

      • Ohio Barbarian (9071 posts)
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        11. The DNC was totally behind Cordray, even had Obama do a commercial for

        him. They hate Dennis, always have. Cenk ignored the race thinking, like many progressives, that since Elizabeth Warren endorsed Cordray he had to be a true progressive. Too late, the day of the election, TYT had an interview with an Intercept reporter who had discovered that the big Wall Street banks gave Cordray beau coup bucks just after he resigned from the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, and helped to fund his campaign.

        He’s just another Wall Street Democrat now, no matter what SV says. They bought him.

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        • ThomPaine (5715 posts)
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          26. Thanks. Would you happen to have a link to the TYT interview

          with the intercept reporter?  If not at hand, I will search.  Thanks for the post.

          • Ohio Barbarian (9071 posts)
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            27. Not at hand, but it should come up easily on YouTube.

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            • ThomPaine (5715 posts)
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              31. No problem. I will look.

    • Deadpool (14697 posts)
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      12. On the Daily Radical!

    • GloriaMundi (822 posts)
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      15. Thanks for sharing that video…

      …it was wonderful.  I hope to hear more from Dennis Kucinich, IMO he is one of the greats.

    • Enthusiast (13207 posts)
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      16. What an appealing team!

      The fucking DCCC and DNC.

      I am so used to being disappointed in Ohio politics.

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      • Ohio Barbarian (9071 posts)
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        19. More so than I, no doubt, but only because you've lived here longer. I lived

        through the nasty Republicanization of Texas politics, then moved to Colorado where the religious right is, if anything, even more vicious than they are in Texas; probably because they have been stymied more often than their Texan counterparts. As for Ohio,

        I hate campaigning in Ohio. It’s not one state, it’s three, and they all hate each other.–President Ulysses S. Grant

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        • Enthusiast (13207 posts)
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          25. I must admit I never considered the Ulysses S. Grant angle.

          "I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country." Thomas Jefferson
    • Johnny Rash (1635 posts)
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      18. Good reading, thanks! I would recommend it, but can't find the button to click.

      Hopefully, you can read it!

       

      Until, JPR is back, I cannot be sure of anything.

      • Ohio Barbarian (9071 posts)
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        21. It's BAAAAACK!!!

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    • Johnny Rash (1635 posts)
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      22. Not yet …

      This is what I get as soon as I get login;  don’t know what to do at this point!

      Any suggestion? 

      • Ohio Barbarian (9071 posts)
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        23. I don't know. JPR's working fine for me. Maybe ask in Q&A?

        Ignorance is the foundation of tyranny.   
        • Johnny Rash (1635 posts)
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          24. Duh…. Q&A…. of course!

          I am back now, and I am finally enjoying myself…. thanks!  

    • Major Hogwash (3883 posts)
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      28. Who is the Governor now?

      What was the last race like there for Governor?

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      • Ohio Barbarian (9071 posts)
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        29. John Kasich is governor, but he is term-limited and, by all appearances, wants

        to run for President in 2020. Whether he actually does and whether he tries for the Republican nomination or runs as an independent, which he may just to fuck with Trump, who he despises, is yet unclear.

        Mike Dewine is the current attorney general and the Republican nominee, and is the clear favorite. He has done some positive things, such as making sure all of the rape kits were actually tested(which led to the arrests of dozens of serial rapists), a crackdown on human trafficking, and “clawbacks” from large corporations who did not keep their end of the bargain to create X number of jobs over X amount of months in exchange for state subsidies and tax breaks. He ran far to the right in the Republican primary, but contradicted his own previous positions. His record shows his politics are a lot like those of Kasich.

        He’ll talk about banning abortion but will do nothing about it once elected. Same with most other hot button social issues. Like Kasich, if elected he’ll probably try to ban some public sector unions, get slapped down by a voter initiative, and then not try it again.

        Richard Cordray was elected Ohio attorney general in a special election in 2008 after his Democratic predecessor, a guy named Dann, resigned because he couldn’t keep his pants zipped. As attorney general, he argued for striking down local bans on assault weapons because they were stricter than state law before the Ohio Supreme Court and won, more than earning his A rating from the NRA. All that did was to piss off his progressive base, and in 2010, he was defeated in his re-election bid by no other than Mike Dewine.

        I see no reason to think that he will be any more successful against Dewine this time around.

        But I didn’t answer your question. In 2014, the Democrats stupidly nominated the County Executive of Cuyahoga County, Ed Fitzgerald, to run against incumbent Kasich. Fitzgerald was a corrupt neoliberal who was tainted by all sorts of scandals in that office, from suspicions of financial impropriety to driving his car without a license for years to boffing an Irish woman who was here on a business trip in the back seat of his car in a warehouse parking lot or something. Kasich crushed him in the election, garnering 63% of the vote and carrying 86 out of 88 counties, including normally staunchly Democratic Cuyahoga County, Fitzgerald’s home county, in a statewide wave of disgust. For the record, I voted for the Green in that one.

        2010 was a squeaker, with Kasich barely beating incumbent Democrat Ted Strickland.

        Ignorance is the foundation of tyranny.