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    • #288512
      Bernie 4 2020
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      As one of the biggest fans of Bernie Sanders, I am officially done with politics as of today. Today is a sad, sad, day for myself, and our democracy. The numbers are in.  It now appears Byedone has a +90% chance of beating Bernie after 4 weeks of voting.

      As a result, I have determined that the outcome of this planet, and our future as Americans, are in grave danger.  Bernie will soon be out. God bless us all. No more M4A, Tuition free college, Green deal. The list of progressive ideas we will lose goes on and on. Throw it all in the shitter for now. Corporate socialism has won again. They bought our country. Predictions? We will end up with income inequality so grossly tilted, you will never get it back in balance again. The fact that the democrats will put forward the only “True democrat?”(bullshit), a senile politician, with signs of dementia, against Chump in the final round, is insane.  Chump already has a book full of gaffes and stupidity to use against poor Joe. Joe doesn’t have a prayer of winning, and has no idea what’s coming.

      Sadly, Biden will be the party’s choice, and will result in 4 more years of Chump.  And then, probably Donny Jr. after that. Now that’s really sad. Today was a pivoting point in American history. And democracy lost. It will be the beginning of the end for many people, that had hope in our political system. The rich will win again. Expect the world’s population to actually start to decrease in the future. Life expectancy will go down. More and more people will be homeless, especially seniors. Our democracy will turn into an autocracy, run by oligarchs. I would not be surprised to see our social programs disappear in the next decade.  God help us, our kids, and grand kids.

      If by some chance Biden does beat Chump, then it will be status quo for the next 4 years. It’ll be 2008 all over again. Joe may even try to attempt to fix the ACA, like it can be done? Everyone knows you can’t dictate to the insurance companies, and Joe’s unknown proposals will die in Congress.  Yeah, let’s go back 12 years. FAILURE!!!

      Under Chump, what will happen as for the rule of law? The SC will then be 7-2, in favor of the GOP. We will NEVER win a liberal point of view for many decades.

      Time will tell how really bad of a “total fuck up”  this will be by not electing Bernie. I will constantly think, as long as I live on this earth, “If only we would have chosen Bernie,,,,,,,”  I think about it today regarding 2016.

      The democrats have chosen party over their own best interests again. As a result, failure is obvious. Policies apparently don’t matter any more, do they? The stupidity is so astounding and history will be repeated.

      Wait, the documented definition of insanity by Albert Einstein? “Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result”. See a pattern here?

      I’m done.  Hey, I’m 65 and retired. I may be lucky if I can make it another 10-15 years. After today, I just don’t give a shit anymore. This whole Bernie thing has done it for me. It’s pretty obvious how this will end up.  Perot tried. He failed. If Bernie couldn’t do it, no one can. Apparently, there are just too many idiotic people in this country that will ALWAYS vote against their best interest. The rest are far right pricks, that think they are the privileged ones.

      It’s quite obvious everything is rigged. Democracy will soon be a thing of the past.

      America is a plutocracy. It’s been heading there for years. The elites pick our candidates and then they watch us fight over the limited options they allow the voters. It’s 2016 all over again. It’s expected. The DNC has all the power to pick whoever they want anyway. Super delegates anyone? Yeah, that’s real democracy, huh?

      MSM? The so-called “journalists” today….are a total disgrace. They have destroyed their profession with their blatant biases. They don’t report news. They pick sides. And they ALWAYS pick the sides of the elites. The media always favors the establishment. The elites, the ones with all the money, pays the paychecks of MSM. When Sanders was winning, they acted like it was the apocalypse. When Biden won a few states, they were so happy they jumped up and down peeing themselves on the airwaves. Yet they want to claim they are unbiased? Fair and balanced? America’s most trusted news source?  It’s disgusting how they cover it all up and lie.

      Am I angry and sad? You betcha I am. As a result, no one in my family will vote for Biden in November, just to prove a point. Millions will follow, count on it. This will assure Biden will lose. It will be a first(not to vote) for many of us. I tried to help the kiddies, but failed. I am only 1 vote.

      You just can’t beat stupid. And the Lord now knows how many stupid people there are in this country right now.  They’re everywhere.  Yeah, I’ll get over it. We all will get over it, eventually.

      Ironically, the powers that be, ON BOTH SIDES, want us to get sick and die(No healthcare). They want us to remain stupid(No free college). They want us to drink shitty water. Oh yeah, and let’s continue to privatize prisons, and keep MJ minor infractions in jail…  And again, the list  goes on and on.  It’s really amazing the stupidity here, and how ignorant human beings really are.

      My biggest concern is that we will NEVER know what the first words of our constitution REALLY mean.  “WE THE PEOPLE”……. Just when in the hell are we going to start thinking that way?

      It appears, NEVER!!!.  The fucking corporations win AGAIN.

      Meanwhile, Chump, the mighty moron, who cut major funding to the CDC in 2018, is failing big time and taking no responsibility.  Now that we desperately need the CDC, we as a country are unprepared for a potential pandemic.  And of course, Chump does not take any responsibility for his ignorance. The economy is heading in the toilet. Some reporters are saying unemployment will reach 20%…….  WTF!!!

      Farmer bailouts and suicides? Abolishment of collective bargaining rights of civilian labor unions representing some 750,000 workers? We CANNOT afford 4 more years of this stupidity.

      I also blame the establishment dems for putting real thick blinders on, and claiming ignorance. I will not be a part of this charade.  I can only hope that there will be someone to take over for Bernie in 4 years.  AOC? Maybe I’ll show up again, then.

      If you think the past 4 years was hell, wait til the next 4. God Bless us all.

      In the meantime, I will be sitting back, watching the shit show that is about to occur.

      Rant over.  So I am going to take my ball and go home. I just can’t do this anymore.

      Good night, Good luck, and farewell.

      It has been a great trip.   Love ya all.

      I will be a Bernie supporter FOREVER. This whole thing with Bernie and his people oriented policies were meant to be introduced in this day and age!! Many have tried and failed in the past. Succeeding was almost impossible. It's kind of a gimme in today's corrupt 2 party system that you have to work within. Just look how things have changed in the past 8 years from Bernie's policies. It was meant to be. Wait it out. Change will come. Thank you Bernie for all you've done. You are a truly amazing person.

    • #288518
      ThouArtThat
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      @bernie42020

      Hi b42020,

      Yep – mirrors my thinking and observations for several years.

      A vote for Biden is a vote for the past.

      A vote for Bernie is a vote for the future.

      Sadly, myopia reigns supreme in the country formerly known as America and now known by its true name – Fear.

      DemExit 2004.

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    • #288536
      MistaP
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      I say, give it a week

    • #288547
      Mr. Mickeys Mom
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      not 5-2…. 7 to 2…

      Other than that, I can’t blame you for a single word you put down….

      I have a choice, and whoever is running Green Party, which I can’t wait to change back to… WILL BE MY VOTE…

      We ALL have choices. I am tired of the arguments by people who should know better, then go into the voting booth, or don’t go at all. I’ve referred to most persons on earth in this category as living in the consensus state… They haven’t broken from their conditioned response, the willingness to not rebel, nor their intent on stepping to a point of discomfort until something new is gleaned from the human experiment.

      We may be fucked now, but we’re not fucked for good, and that’s what I have to continue to reaching toward…. for the good.

      Peace… You should leave and commiserate with me/us, for the consensus state needs minds like ours. We are post 65 and not conditioned.

      I am another you.

      Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

      • #290225
        Satan
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        If Biden somehow wins an election, but having no coattails whatsoever, the Republicans hold on to the Senate.

        RBG isn’t likely to make it through another 4 years regardless of which barely functional brain is squatting in the White House. And while she’s the oldest and the one with the most serious known health problems, several of the others aren’t exactly spring chickens either.

        So assuming 2 vacancies on the court, and Bitch McTurtle continues to be his obstructionist self. You have a 5-2 court… at least until WorseThanCheeto (whomever that might be) takes office via another electoral college “win” in 2024.

        "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable". - John F. Kennedy

    • #288570
      Bernie 4 2020
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      you’re right about 7-2. I’ll fix it in the original post….. Thanks

      I will be a Bernie supporter FOREVER. This whole thing with Bernie and his people oriented policies were meant to be introduced in this day and age!! Many have tried and failed in the past. Succeeding was almost impossible. It's kind of a gimme in today's corrupt 2 party system that you have to work within. Just look how things have changed in the past 8 years from Bernie's policies. It was meant to be. Wait it out. Change will come. Thank you Bernie for all you've done. You are a truly amazing person.

    • #288572
      Punxsutawney
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      1 vote here.

      In America, “Liberty” means “Free to Die in Service of Capital” - Amfortas the hippie.

      Most of today’s elites have the moral and social reasoning capacities of spoiled toddlers.

      “People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage...but the privileged also feel that their privileges, however egregious they may seem to others, are a solemn, basic, God-right. The sensitivity of the poor to injustice is a trivial thing c

    • #288635
      Canoeist52
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      Well, it’s almost Spring…time to get back to the Garden.  I have a feeling that things are about to become very local now.  Support your local farms and markets!

      "There is nothing pragmatic about an incremental solution to a catastrophic problem." - Ron Placone

    • #290219
      RealityRedux
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      For the most part, I’ve already experienced my ‘final thoughts’ moment during the horrible Bush years. It’s only because Bernie got into these presidential races that I clung to hope for change. The DNC has ruined those chances. Now, reality has struck even harder. It feels like the corrupt expert of liars in this current Trump of Banksters rule will continue on. All that I care to happen is for 5 Senate seats to go blue so that we might see justice in action. That’s the only small hope of any positive change left to embrace. As we all come to grips with how this presidential circus show will turn out, please do what you can to support those 5 Senate seats possibly up for grabs. Lets go down swinging. Good luck to all.

      Formally RealityCheck

    • #290227
      not4sale
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      Ever since the SC installed Bush.  Torture camps and WMD lies followed, along with code orange terror alerts designed to terrorize Americans for political polling points.  Bush gave “the deplorables” $300 in a tax refund and they all loved him.  Mr. Hope n change got elected next and did NOTHING about 1000s of Bush era crimes.  They both gave predatory banks about a trillion dollars and told us to be grateful for our for-profit health insurance.

      Because nothing was ever done to prosecute anyone from the Bush crime era, including all the DNC pigs, we got Trump.  Corruption always gets worse until heads roll/people are put in jail.  When empires collapse there are 3 ways people react: The corrupt/disconnected leaders go down with the country, others give up on everything and disconnect themselves from society and the 3rd group of people work to form a new reality and a new community/country.

    • #290234
      Maedhros
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      Those selections will be made by establishment hacks and handed to the President to sign.

      Why assume Democratic hacks will be worse than Republican hacks?  Both are there to accede to the wishes of corporate America.

      His body recovered from his torment and became hale,
      but the shadow of his pain was in his heart;
      and he lived to wield his sword with left hand
      more deadly than his right had been.

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