My recommendations for election integrity

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    • #392009
      eridani
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      1. Electronic voting absolutely banned, with possible exceptions to assist the voting of people with various disabilities. The number of disabled users is probably small enough so that there will be little motivation to hack the machines.

      2. In counties with vary large populations, total hand counts are not feasible. Scanners are generally used, but these should never under any cricumastances connect to the Internet.

      3. There must be random hand cout aditing of several races in the county (King County in WA State does this already, but I would also like to see a couple of random checks on races that are not county-wide. They only do non-countywide audits if the races are closer than 0.25%. The reason they don’t make it a general habit is that first all the ballots for that race have to be separated from the rest of the ballots, which is an expensive hassle.)

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    • #392011
      ThouArtThat
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      @eridani

      Hi eridani,

      I would add the following for consideration:

      • the UK counts all ballots by hand for the entire nation in one night – it is possible
      • election day should be a federal holiday so everyone can vote without impediment
      • we need a national voting process that is the same across all states and the same for every election
      • if software is used anywhere in the process then it must be open source and inspectable by everyone – no proprietary SW

      The watchword for election integrity must be transparency and repeatability first last and always.

      TAT

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    • #392035
      KenTankerous
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      Under the perhaps larger category of election reform.

      "If we define an American fascist as one who in case of conflict puts money and power ahead of human beings, then there are undoubtedly several million fascists in the United States."
      - Henry A. Wallace
      (FDR's Vice President until he was forced out by the corrupt forces of obscene wealth.)

      • #392488
        eridani
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        –which cannot be dealt with by hand counting.

        Jesus: Hey, Dad? God: Yes, Son? Jesus: Western civilization followed me home. Can I keep it? God: Certainly not! And put it down this minute--you don't know where it's been! Tom Robbins in Another Roadside Attraction

    • #394339
      Pam2
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      Is the whole issue of election integrity going to be even harder now due to the Trumper riot? Is anyone questioning election results from now on just going to be painted as another kook/sore loser?

       

      • #394370
        eridani
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        The issue is that it is not impossible to know one way or another whether there was fraud.  IMO, the more serious thread is electronic voting machines, whose software is inevitably always in beta test mode.  That is why so many people saw vote totals reversing and going backwards on their TVs.  This is an inevitable result of a buffer overflow error.  If the only legal ballots were paper, whatever counting process is used can be audited.  Machines can never be effectively audited, because it is possible for what is on the screen, what is on the paper printout and what is in the CPU to be three different things.

        Jesus: Hey, Dad? God: Yes, Son? Jesus: Western civilization followed me home. Can I keep it? God: Certainly not! And put it down this minute--you don't know where it's been! Tom Robbins in Another Roadside Attraction

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