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  • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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    NEW MEMBERS CHECK-IN THREAD #5

    Welcome to JackPineRadicals.

    We are a site dedicated to progressive people and progressive ideals.

    Please come and join us for fun, discerning and informative conversation. You can rest assured that your individual take on things will be appreciated.

    I would suggest that you familiarize yourself with the minimal rules we have here on JackPineRadicals before you start posting. They are found in About JackPineRadicals and Community Standards & Guidelines. Links to both are on the bottom of every page should you need them later.

    There is a pretty vast amount of information regarding things such as posting pictures and individualizing your avatar and signature in Help & Q&A. This informative thread is linked in your left hand navigation area under Main Forums.

    We have had some trolls and others disrupting conversations lately, so we are asking all members to become familiar with the rules and report anything that they think need be addressed.

    If you would like to introduce yourself to the community, post a reply on this thread.

    If you are coming to us from another site, it would help us if you would put your other name(s) in your signature for a little while. You might find some old friends here that way.

    And thanks for joining our merry little band.

    caliny, Two way street, DWSsu and 14 othersEnthusiast, mntleo2, historylovr, B Calm, slay, dEEDeeNL, WillyT, Greyhound, 7wo7rees, Satan, libodem, Deadpool, , Marym625 like this
    "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx

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    • talkstoclouds (1 posts)
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      1. Hi I live in North Dakota, please don’t hold it against me

      Hi I live in North Dakota, please don’t hold it against me. It’s not quite as red here in the eastern part of the state.  Was a member at the other place for many years and didn’t post much, left very shortly after they fully supported herself.  I have been lurking here since until finally joining recently. I supported Bernie and caucused for him and am in alignment with his values.

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        2. Welcome to JPR

        I like your tag. Very nice. I don’t think anyone will care one way or the other that you’re from North Dakota, and in fact may want to know if you know anything about the DAPL that we aren’t getting via news.

        Seriously, there’s a lot of cool people here and we welcome you to our site.

        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
      • MrMickeysMom (1424 posts)
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        12. Hello, talkstoclouds…

        No problem where you’re from. Hey, I was born in New Jersey…

        I’m aligned with his values… boy, am I ever. Good to see you here! :hi:

        Hell no...I'm not giving up...     cat-gif-238.gif giphy.gif
    • jandad2007 (3 posts)
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      3. Hi!

      Former DUer…(Tireman)

      Hope this goes better than the other site…

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        4. Welcome to JPR.

        It is way superior to Site Voldemort. You’re not allowed to use what you used. It’s in the rules. No direct reference to ‘that other place’. So be careful from here on, or any post having said direct reference will ‘disappear’ into the void as it were.

        You might see SV used. That’s what it means. I had one of my very first posts trashed because I not only named the nameless, I named the guy running it. Way bad.

        Come and have some interesting and valuable discussions with good old fashioned liberals. And have some fun as well. We have a fairly large selection of specialty topic forums if you’re interested.

        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
        • jandad2007 (3 posts)
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          5. Cool!

          Thanks for the heads up!

          • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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            6. de nada

            My pleasure.

            "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
    • Deadpool (8721 posts)
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      7. We’re on #5 already? Sheesh. Anyway…

      To all new members past, present, and future…

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        8. Why are you so surprised?

        You, Mary and her friend blew up number 4.

        Sheeeeesh yourself.

        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
        • Deadpool (8721 posts)
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          9. Blowing things up is one of my specialties…

          :lol:

          • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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            10. I'll buy that.

            "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
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    • Greyhound (1 posts)
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      13. Deja vu, that curious feeling that one…

      Saw here in a post on C99 and stopped by to be somewhat overwhelmed by nostalgia.

      I’m Greyhound, Gryehound, and long ago Greyhound1966, on DKos (haven’t been there for months), Reddit, and DU.

      Bonus points for finishing the quotation… ;-D

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        14. Welcome to the zoo.

        However, you have to lose the other sites in a direct reference other than here.

        Verboten. Got warned on one of my very first posts.

        You’ll find the name for the other site is ‘that other site’ or SV, site voldemort.

        Come and have some fun and all……

        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
    • TG4Bernie (2 posts)
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      15. New here!

      Stopped by DU but didn’t appreciate the Hillary worship but I was stuck there until registration was open here.

      I’m finally home!

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        16. Welcome to JPR!

        There are a lot of former Site Voldemort people here. You will find that open references to that site will get you reported, in a hurry. I speak from experience cause I did it and got noticed my first day here.

        There are a bunch of fun topics and threads going, so come on in and join us!

        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
    • human101948 (8 posts)
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      17. Blocked, banned, and banished on D…U….…

      The powers that be there don’t seem to understand the meaning of the word “underground.”  They turned the site into a purity test that brooked no dissent.

      I had been posting there since 2001, having found the site through the late great Bartcop.  I contributed money, posted under one identity more than 12,000 times and yet was summarily drawn and quartered for some politically correct comments.  (Almost exclusively as a humorous mocking of Republicans and right wingers.)

       

      Oh yeah, and I kept saying that Bernie was better and Hillary was too Wall Street with negative ratings that were sky high. That nailed my coffin shut.

       

      • libodem (1017 posts)
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        18. Refugees welcome here

        It’s not very Democratic to require.an oath to, Hillary Herself, rather than to Democrats.

      • madfloridian (1855 posts)
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        19. 2002 for me, 2004 at the DK site…

        couldn’t swear loyalty to any one person, so here I am.  Welcome! :hi:

        If a person is required to be loyal to a political party and not question their stands on issues, then any semblance of real truth is lost. https://twitter.com/madfloridian
        • human101948 (8 posts)
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          21. Thanks!

          Always found your contributions useful and informative.

        • Diclotican (12 posts)
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          46. Madfloridan

          Hey

          I know you from the other side – so you ended up here.. Sad, you was a good writer on the other site. hopefully you are even better here..

          Diclotican

          • madfloridian (1855 posts)
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            48. Hi Diclotican, so good to see you here.

            I hope you hang around a while.  We are an outspoken bunch.   We have some heated discussions, but only a few are picking on others.  Yep, had to leave the other site.

            So welcome!  :hi: :hi:

            If a person is required to be loyal to a political party and not question their stands on issues, then any semblance of real truth is lost. https://twitter.com/madfloridian
      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        20. Sounds a lot like a bunch of people here.

        You should fit right in.

        Welcome to JPR.

        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
      • VoiceOfReason (989 posts)
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        144. there's a huge refugee community here from sv

        same stuff happened to ne there.

        There’s a lot of subtle pro trump supporters there.

        Welcome!

        "Men who do evil brilliantly are often admired"  Voltaire BERN BABY BERN!!  War is madness!
    • Aya Reiko (20 posts)
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      22. Showing up

      I’ve largely given up on DU.  It’s practically a toxic, groupthink cesspit.  I wouldn’t be surprised if it goes full left-wing tea party (if it hasn’t already).

      Votes are earned, not given out just because of what party someone claims to be.

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        23. Say hello to something different.

        We aren’t any 3rd way cesspit. In fact, we’re alotta fun most of the time. You should watch out using the real initials of Site Voldemort outside this thread.

        I did and promptly got the post removed. Among other things.

        Jump on in and start on the one year anniversary of JPR.

        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
    • washellofromreddit (164 posts)
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      24. Just received my ban over there!

      I was getting a bunch of “Hey, they’re after you” messages right before getting a cascade of hides (“RW talking points” they say) and a ban.

      I suppose I’ll post over here now.  Hello.

      • Deadpool (8721 posts)
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        25. Welcome to JPR

        • artis life (111 posts)
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          28. I liked reading your posts there

          I am no longer a Democrat, so I haven’t gone back to posting there since the election night meltdown. I read to enjoy their pain.

          • washellofromreddit (164 posts)
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            38. The meltdown was epic.

            It was a little depressing too.  Reddit’s /r/politics was eerily quiet for a few days.  But they’re all out of their funk now, back to hating Bernie and blaming teenagers for Trump.

            I know DU still actually has a big progressive population (I got a lot of good PMs from all over) that tends to stay quiet to avoid the rampant jury system abuse.  One of my posts had over 100 recs mostly from people who rarely or never post.  The jerks just seem predominant because they post obsessively and can silence their opponents.  But I’ll admit it was amusing to see those same jerks eating crow and pretending it was  T-bone.

            I’m no democrat either.  I was trying to be one because of Bernie, but I got tired of being insulted every time I wasn’t being ignored.  I’ll just focus on activism and specific issues and simply ignore the democrats until the party pulls its head out of its ass.  As of the 20th they’re no more powerful than the greens, and the greens are actually nice.

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        26. Come and have some fun to.

        Check out the daily topics. Some are very good.

        Welcome to JPR

        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
    • ZimInSeattle (956 posts)
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      27. Hi JPR's!

      I am ZimInSeattle at C99% and also Steemit. Major Bernie supporter where I went $600 over max. Even though the primary was stolen, I believe the money was well spent exposing the Democratic Party for the corrupt rotten hulk it has become. After the purge at DKos, I #DemExited. Recently found out I have been shadow banned at the Seattle Times and any website that uses the FaceBook commenting plugin, like Huffington Post and ESPN. It seems only I have been able to see my comments for a year and half at least. No one will tell me why. So I’m thinking it’s because I was a Bernie supporter pushing back on all the BS out there like ‘the Russians did it’. Glad to have found this place through the good folks at C99%.

      "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK | Bernie would have WON! |“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness" - J.K. Galbraith |“Fascism is a result of the failure of the left to provide an alternative” - Leon Trotsky | Sanders/Gabbard 2020 (PPP)
      • artis life (111 posts)
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        29. Interesting about the shadow ban

        I wonder if I have that at the Huff Post, too.

         

        I loved calling out their paid posters…and after August, when they went full blown Hillbot Land, I stopped going there for ..you know…actual news.

        But once in awhile I will go and see an article and post my opposition…but I turned off notifications from that site, so who knows if I was just talking to myself.

         

        Oh….Welcome..LOL

        • ZimInSeattle (956 posts)
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          34. Shadow banning is very deceptive.

          They let you think you are part of the discourse when actually you are not. I noticed that my comments would never get any ‘likes’. So to test, I posted a comment then went to a different computer that wasn’t signed into my FaceBook account, and the comment wasn’t there. Same thing at the Seattle Times. Canceling our subscription there.

          "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK | Bernie would have WON! |“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness" - J.K. Galbraith |“Fascism is a result of the failure of the left to provide an alternative” - Leon Trotsky | Sanders/Gabbard 2020 (PPP)
      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        30. Welcome to JPR.

        This site is dedicated to ardent Bernie and Bernie Way supporters.

        Come and bring your unique ideas to the forums.

        Be careful mentioning other sites directly. That’s a big no-no here.

        I found out the hard way.

        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
        • ZimInSeattle (956 posts)
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          36. Mentioning other sites is not allowed? That there's a red flag for me.

          So I can’t post an essay here and say I cross posted at another site? If that’s the case, I probably won’t be around here that often. Doesn’t seem like that’s an issue at other progressive blogging sites.

          "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK | Bernie would have WON! |“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness" - J.K. Galbraith |“Fascism is a result of the failure of the left to provide an alternative” - Leon Trotsky | Sanders/Gabbard 2020 (PPP)
          • Haikugal (5310 posts)
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            37. No that isn't the rule. We don't spend time here bitching about other sites.

            What you do is up to you but if you look around you’ll see what we’re about here.

            Welcome to JPR!

              Be the bird.....       Hey DNC! Up Yours! It's ON!! Kick against the pricks!!!
          • Deadpool (8721 posts)
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            39. That’s fine.

            Whining/complaining about other sites is not allowed. 

          • Marym625 (21502 posts)
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            76. Welcome to the JackpineRadicals family

            Of course you can link to your work elsewhere. And you can discuss other sites.

            The rule is that you can’t post when the sole purpose is to rant about things elsewhere, or link to things elsewhere to callout members of another site.

            Otherwise, you’re welcome to post just about anything you want

            Oi245KQ-1 "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
      • FanBoy (7985 posts)
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        190. I'm a little late here, but I didn't realize so many places used FaceBook

        for comments elsewhere, and that getting banned one place would thus get you banned everywhere that used it.

        In the olden days the equivalent would be some kind of free speech issue — except the internet is ‘private,’ so it wouldn’t apply.

        But it’s turning into todays equivalent of the ‘commons’ — except its private and there is no real commons.

    • passionflower95 (32 posts)
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      31. Hey there

      I am from Minneapolis. I campaigned for Bernie Sanders because I truly believe in his message and values. Previously, I campaigned for President Obama. After this ugly election, I am just trying to come to terms with the unknown. There is an enemy in our midst. Officially in January. But I’m still reeling from going from the intelligent and compassionate President Obama to a ridiculous asshat. So I find myself coming here looking to enjoy some good discussion and celebrate unity and diversity.

      There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.- Soren Kierkegaard
      • Deadpool (8721 posts)
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        32. Welcome to JPR

        • passionflower95 (32 posts)
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          33. Thank you

          I appreciate that. I love your username.

          There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.- Soren Kierkegaard
          • Deadpool (8721 posts)
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            35. Thank you.

             

    • Badger Badger (78 posts)
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      40. I found JackPineRadicals in a thread at DU

      Of course, it was a very dismissive comment, because, you know, you have to worship the Clintons there and anyone else that wants to build a stronger Democratic Party with BETTER Democrats is not welcome.  Don’t even get me started on DK, my profile has a few links and facts about his background, including:

      1.  He is not a democrat — he just couldn’t become a big important person as a republican, so he started DK and the record now clearly shows his site is detrimental to progressive politics.
      2. He is credibly reported to have been CIA, but only admits military service.  Remember, once in that lodge, you are always CIA
      3. No one is more profane, irrational, and full-of-himself as an Internet rock star than Markos Moulitsas.  But hey! He’s a big Clinton fan and even picked up a gig with her (NOTE:  There was no need to bribe him, as KOS exists to move the Democratic Party to the right and towards Wall Street.
      Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, Argh! Snake, a snake! Snaaake! A snaaaake, oooh its a snake!
      • Ohio Barbarian (3146 posts)
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        41. Welcome. Just remember not to mention the Site Which Cannot Be Named.

        Which you just did.  I’ve noticed others here call it SV, and so will you I’m sure. Me? I haven’t been around that place since 2009 when I said I wished I had voted for Nader, lol.

        "Identity politics is the last refuge of the politically incompetent."  --Me, with a hat tip to Isaac Asimov  
        • Badger Badger (78 posts)
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          42. SV? I don't know what that stands for, but have seen.

          I have seen DK used on a few other comments, so used it.  A few times, I have referred to an evil orange site.  Soon, I will have no reason to mention it in any way at all and the sooner that happens, the better.  I am deeply disturbed that a 2016 Clinton operative ran a banner graphic of Clinton’s 96% probability for victory daily for weeks and should have been an advocate for campaigning in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.  Massive fail — a feature or glitch?

          Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, Argh! Snake, a snake! Snaaake! A snaaaake, oooh its a snake!
          • Ohio Barbarian (3146 posts)
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            43. Feature or a glitch? I don't know. But stupidity comes to mind.

            Clinton’s campaign was stupidly arrogant throughout, and it just got worse after she “won” the primary. DK probably means Daily Kos, BTW. I have forgotten what SV stands for.

            To be fair about the campaign, I thought Clinton would win the general for sure. I, like many others, went by the polls even when I should have known better than to trust “likely voter” polls this year, so I can be guilty of stupidity as well. Every once in awhile, anyway; I’m only human. To be fair about the polls, when you incorporate the margin of error they were mostly right, after all. It’s just that the error broke against Clinton–I had no idea so many voters despised her as much as I did.

            This came as a very unpleasant surprise to people who truly deserved to be unpleasantly surprised, as I’m sure you witnessed.

            "Identity politics is the last refuge of the politically incompetent."  --Me, with a hat tip to Isaac Asimov  
            • tiamat (678 posts)
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              44. SV =

              DumbUnderworld

          • Deadpool (8721 posts)
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            45. SV = Site Voldemort

            It is used in reference to Third-Way sites.

    • Diclotican (12 posts)
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      47. Hello

      Hello everyone

      I am not really an american, as I live in Norway but have been following US politics for a long time, and I bumbed over this site from another site I also have been on for some years. Registered here, and it looks like a progressive place who I suspect the US would need in the insanity who will be the “norm” the 4 next year…

      And by the way – was and is a big fan of Bernie Sanders – what could have been….

      Diclotican

      • madfloridian (1855 posts)
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        49. Diclotican, couple of years ago you posted your experience with health care.

        I remember it and looked it up in your journal.  I wish you would repost or rewrite it here.  It was quite an experience and cost you little or nothing.

        I wish we could get a better health care system here, but too many politicians are paid off by big money.  I doubt we will.

         

        If a person is required to be loyal to a political party and not question their stands on issues, then any semblance of real truth is lost. https://twitter.com/madfloridian
      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        50. Welcome to JPR, Diclotican

        We can always use the perspectives of those who aren’t “really an american”.

        Too many real Americans think that America is the act’s meow and never get a chance to see coparitive models of governance. I look forward to your perspectives.

        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
      • Spanish Devil (273 posts)
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        52. Diclotican

        Used to be Ghost Dog. Long time observing the Beast and the World in English, Spanish, French. From UK Yorkshire & West Country escaped from London 1987 to Barcelona & Canary Islands for saner society, better life.

        In the context of the fast-approaching socio-economic and therefore political consequences of anthropogenic climate and therefore biospheric- and human-geography change I feel far from optimistic as regards the near- and mid-term futures for all people, but not pessimistic as regards long-term outcomes for eventually-surviving humans and the biosphere or Gaia as a whole… But first, Hellmouth:

        Far an taine ‘n abhainn, ‘s ann as mò a fuaim.

        Where the stream is shallowest, it is noisiest.

        • Diclotican (12 posts)
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          53. Spanish Devil

          Hey

          Ah, you was ghost dog :) How nice to know you, under your new name. True the next 10-20 years would be difficult for everyone I think – but it helps being the opptimist when the world looks like it goes down the toilet… And the election of “Little hand” as I call him, have indeed made the world a worse place, and he is not even sworn in yet…

          Diclotican

      • MannyGoldstein (2234 posts)
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        54. Great to see you here!

        I enjoyed your posts at DU.

        "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it" - Upton Sinclair
        • Diclotican (12 posts)
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          55. Manny Goldstein

          Hey

          Greeat to see you here too – and yes, I allways enjoyed your posts at DU myself thank you. Hopefully we will bump into eatch other many times here too

          Diclotican

      • bemildred (3490 posts)
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        56. Glad you found us.

        :hi:

        It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.
        • Diclotican (12 posts)
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          59. Bemildred

          hey

          Nice to discover you too :) Yes it is nice to discover I was not alone

          Diclotican

    • VoiceOfReason (989 posts)
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      51. Halo

      Looks like my kind of people here.  I will try to stay humble for a while.  Thanks for the welcome.  I’m hungry for justice.  I am for the underdogs.

      "Men who do evil brilliantly are often admired"  Voltaire BERN BABY BERN!!  War is madness!
      • Deadpool (8721 posts)
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        57. Welcome to JPR

        :welcome:

        • VoiceOfReason (989 posts)
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          58. thanks

          I needed that! b

          "Men who do evil brilliantly are often admired"  Voltaire BERN BABY BERN!!  War is madness!
      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        63. Welcome to JPR

        Don’t stay humble for long.

        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
    • CoupCoupT (9 posts)
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      60. Just a hello to all.. Question?… Parliamentary Procedure?

      • tiamat (678 posts)
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        61. Just a member here but I'll try to help.

        :welcome:

        • CoupCoupT (9 posts)
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          62. Thanks Tiamat

          I assume that all of our Council meetings follow Robert Rules of Order for debate/discussion… Does it follow that all meetings must allow for new business/discussion… If so can these points be out maneuvered(tabled) to a point of being rendered mute… I know this is a somewhat vague question but there is a final point that I hope to achieve….

          • tiamat (678 posts)
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            64. I don't know about where you are.

            Everywhere in SoCal I’ve lived, each council has set their own rules, both for members and the public.

            :shrug:

          • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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            66. I'm with Tiamat,

            Every city council I’ve ever attended had their own procedures. Most only allowed new business if it was requested before the meeting, and if someone wanted to open a new business discussion it was placed on the agenda for the next meeting.

            "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        65. THere is a new question topic posted at the top of every page.

        @deadpool has been really putting in the time and effort to make it pretty spectacular.

        You can always just go there and if the help isn’t already there, just reply with your question and someone will come and help you out.

        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
    • Eleanors38 (50 posts)
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      67. Hello, folks! Joined today and look forward to hearing new ideas

      to overhaul the Party and present real and aggressive competition to the 2 varieties of right wing extremism (GOP and trump strongman politics).  Happy new year to everyone!

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        68. Welcome to JPR!

        We can use all the competition for the fight for the next few years, and get a true liberal/progressive elected.

        Have fun!!

        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
    • MyDogsBFF (34 posts)
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      69. Whoa late to the game …

      I usually follow instructions quite well but posted a couple times before posting to this thread. I lurked for a while and really enjoy the info and dialogue here. I consider myself a full time progressive but part time interweb denizen. I check in a few times a week and will post when I can add value, but am amazed at the dedication and contribution many folks make here. I work way too much which is not an excuse because I actually enjoy my work. I am type-A extrovert at work but proud introvert in my personal life. I recently celebrated my 50th bday and not surprisingly discovered (largely by pee, poo, and barf stains throughout my house) that I apparently care for animals more than humans. However, I invest a lot of time in local charities mostly focused on disadvantaged kids.

      I live in MN (Go Betty) and actually have RSAD (Reverse Seasonal Affective Disorder). I love winter. I do not dislike summer but I do love XC skiing and snowshoeing. My vegetable garden grows larger every year which keeps me very busy, and I am getting much better with flowers and other flora on my little patch of dirt.

      I have had a difficult time shrugging off personal sadness in the past month or so. Not depression, I am a happy optimist, but sad about where “we” are right now, especially with close liberal friends who jumped the shark with Turd Way. My optimism hopes that their (sad and shocking) poutrage and gullibility accelerates their and other people’s evolution to progressivism. I really hope that the Russia Hack, Golden Shower, and other nonsense stories push otherwise sane people to Our Revolution. I do not waste much time trying to debate Turd Wayers, but I believe there is deep hunger for the ideals in Our Revolution among many independent moderates. It is my opinion that it is those independent moderates that we need to convert to win both short and long term.

      I like Our Revolution because it enables me to improve my focus on what I already practice, local leaders. Since I have minimal impact on the Federal level, I try to invest my thoughts and time on City, County, and State leaders. However, I must say that it was fun to attend Michelle Bachmann events and torture her staff and bigots when I had the chance. While it made me feel good, it did not do much to help progressives.

      Sorry for the lengthy post and thanks for reading.

      "When too many Americans don't vote or participate, some see apathy and despair. I see disappointment and even outrage. And I believe that out of this frustration can come hope and action." - Paul Wellstone
      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        70. Welcome to JPR where it would seem that no one follows instructions.

        Love your name, since I think I’m mydogsbff too. Thanks for sharing on the check-in thread, that’s really nice of you.

        We have a lot of topics for you to choose from and a lot of really cool revolutionaries to meet.

        Come and join the fun.

        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
      • Land of Enchantment (6689 posts)
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        71. Greetings and welcome! I too love your handle and hope you will be

        posting photos of you BFF for all to enjoy. We have an 8 year old German Shepherd, love of our lives. Raised by 3 cats. Loves everybody and every critter. Won’t even chase a rabbit. :lol:

        Thanks for your intro–you are going to fit right in!!!!!! Welcome aboard and I look forward to your posts!

        LoE

        :welcome:

         

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
    • strangeviews (70 posts)
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      72. New member here!

       

      Big Bernie supporter, first candidate I ever actually gave money to in my life

      I’m so happy to see him leading the charge against Trump and his cohorts

      Tired of hearing the excuses for why Hillary lost, I saw it coming from a mile away, and I’m still stinging over their treatment of Bernie

      I was furious at Bernie for casting his support to her, but I’m getting over it more and more every time I hear his inspired voice

      The reluctance of Clinton supporters to move past the election is really bothering me

      I don’t think they leaned their lesson from this election cycle and that is very disturbing

      Glad I found this place

      • Deadpool (8721 posts)
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        73. Welcome to JPR

        :welcome:

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        74. Welcome to Bernie Heaven.

        Lots and lots of staunch Bernie birds here for you to talk with and share your strange views with!

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        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
    • Green Dog Dem (3276 posts)
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      75. Hi there! It's KamaAina from that other site.

      I managed to get “flagged for review” (i.e. death row) just over two months after Black Tuesday. Apparently any and all criticism of HRC is now considered “bashing a Democratic public figure”.

      Aloha! KamaAina in the hale (house).
      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        77. Welcome to JPR!

        Come on in and have some fun posting about Hill the Shill, but be careful posting about other sites. That’s a no-no.

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        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
      • Land of Enchantment (6689 posts)
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        78. Greetings, I remember you from the other place. I hope you find a happy

        home here. We do have a few rules about posting about the other place and its members so please acquaint yourself with them. I’m sure you will find a lot of old friends here. Some members like to put their username from the other place in their sig line so we know who they are and you might want to consider doing that for a while. Thanks for taking the time to check in and    :welcome:

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
    • IntrepidLurker (3 posts)
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      79. Hi I'm kind of new

      Long time lurker — from youknowwhere. Have to use a completely different user name b/c I’d be relieved of my duties there if found out I’m posting here. Sad that’s the state of affairs. Glad to be around old/new friends

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        • IntrepidLurker (3 posts)
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          81. This will be my last post here as I know I've broken rules

          There is just onowhere for people to know about these things that go on. You talk about it there and you get banned and flagged and whatever and you can’t here for reasons and on FB they will remove the post. I just think people should know, I know there are others like me who are on there still but lurk here and need to know they’re not safe.

          thank you all

          • VoiceOfReason (989 posts)
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            82. me too

            Long live freedom of speech!

            "Men who do evil brilliantly are often admired"  Voltaire BERN BABY BERN!!  War is madness!
    • dEEDeeNL (108 posts)
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      83. hallo

      > NEW MEMBERS CHECK-IN THREAD #5… Welcome to JackPineRadicals.

      > …

      > And thanks for joining our merry little band.

      You’re welcome!

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        85. Welcome to JPR!

        Come on in and join a bunch of progressives!

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        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
        • dEEDeeNL (108 posts)
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          97. re:Welcome to JPR!

          TY for welcome and the welcome gif from animatedimages.org!

      • Deadpool (8721 posts)
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        88. Welcome to JPR

        • dEEDeeNL (108 posts)
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          98. re:Welcome to JPR

          TY, and for JPG from welcome-word-in-different-languages.jpg. Very very considerate.

    • The Contrarian (202 posts)
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      84. herro

      hi guys. checking in?

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        86. Does this mean you're contrary?

        Probably fit right in.

        Welcome to JPR!

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        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
        • The Contrarian (202 posts)
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          89. I often take an opposing view for the sake

          of understanding why the position is bad. ive been called a contrarian since I was a kid by my dad

      • Deadpool (8721 posts)
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        87. Welcome to JPR

    • Fingrinn (11 posts)
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      90. Fingrinn

      From New Zealand. Used to lurk at SV and occasionally post. Got banned for posting someones name. Capitol crime I know. Apparently he was on the Super secret anti Semite list which I didn’t get when joining.

       

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        91. Hi Fingrinn

        Welcome to JPR. Posting names without permission of the owner is not approved here either.

        That being said, there aren’t any super secret anythings here.

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        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
    • lastone (18 posts)
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      92. Just got banned from "the place that shall not be named"!

      For bashing dems who vote like republicans – only sycophantic fools with no ability to reason ban free thought even when negative against people who claim to be working for similar goals.

      I am happy to have found JPR!

       

       

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        93. Welcome to JPR

        One note: don’t refer to Site Voldemort directly beyond this point. We’re pretty touchy about that thing so you’ll either get your post removed or a warning to remove the reference yourself.

        Other than that

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        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
        • lastone (18 posts)
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          94. fixed it!

          Thanks for the welcome, c u around!

          • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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            95. Be sure to check out the daily posts. We have a lot of fun there.

            "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
          • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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            100. I hope so.

            Come on and get to know some folks.

            "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
        • Green Dog Dem (3276 posts)
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          99. I've been wondering what SV means!

          Aloha! KamaAina in the hale (house).
          • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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            101. We had to come up with something.

            It’s verboten to mention the other site and it’s dark overlord directly.

            I got a post removed on my first day because of the rule. It was kinda embarrassing, ya know?

            "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
            • Green Dog Dem (3276 posts)
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              103. So did I!

              Aloha! KamaAina in the hale (house).
          • Haikugal (5310 posts)
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            102. SV=Site Voldemort

            Welcome!!! :hi:

              Be the bird.....       Hey DNC! Up Yours! It's ON!! Kick against the pricks!!!
      • Deadpool (8721 posts)
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        96. Welcome to JPR

      • HassleCat (927 posts)
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        107. Same story here.

        I ran into stalkers who followed me around as part of their purging and purification effort.  Unfortunate because most of them are pretty cool.  But the purifiers are winnowing the ranks, which should be good for this site.

    • slay (390 posts)
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      104. Not new – was on the dot org – had health issues -now finally on the dot com yay

      and many (some) of you may remember me from the shit pond other place where I was also known as “slay” with over 10,000 posts before they gave me the ol’ heave-ho (place is 90% Hillary-bots these days anyways from what I can tell – and their Alexa rankings are sinking like a stone – well deserved since the owner and his wife used to work for The (DLC) Clintons – but enough of that).    Looking forward to getting back into the fight for true progress and true progressive values – as well as supporting great progressives like my man Bernie – the person we ALL know SHOULD be President right now!

      I first joined JPR the week yall started I think – was when the shit about Manny went down over there – that was the last straw for me.  As far as me – for fun I do computer stuff like Wii-U emulation, play a massively popular MMO that only came out in Japan called Phantasy Star Online 2 (i’m “slay” on there as well so stop by and say hi if you also play!) which some awesome fans have translated into English for us – as well as Diablo 3.   I also like hiking, good sci-fi and horror, documentaries, and have been a HUGEEEE Bernie fan for years ever since Ed Shultz used to have him on his show.  Nice to be back.  :)

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        105. Well, welcome back!!

        We’re still pretty much total Bernie fans getting along in these dark days.

        Step on in and have some fun!

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        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
    • HassleCat (927 posts)
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      106. Greetings!

      If the user name looks familiar, I have come here from a different forum.  Actually I was chased out of there by intolerant, humorless drones.  Too bad, because most people there are pretty cool.  I hope this site is not populated by stalkers who seek to purge and purify.

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        108. Well, welcome to JPR.

        We attempt to not be humorless drones, but you never know. We are pretty tolerant though. They even let me on here.

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        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
      • madfloridian (1855 posts)
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        109. Yes, I do recognize the name. Good to see you here.

        Many like me are still members in good standing but are just taking a different road right now.

        Most everyone here is nice, but we do get our trollish moments.   I think mods and admins really try hard to be fair even if they don’t agree with a poster.

        Enjoy.  :hi:

        If a person is required to be loyal to a political party and not question their stands on issues, then any semblance of real truth is lost. https://twitter.com/madfloridian
    • LEFTYFRIZZLE (6 posts)
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      110. hello

      hello all,retired member of IBEW,was a diehard Dem of 50 years until the shit  they pulled on Bernie here in Vegas,I Demexited shortly there after,use to comment on the Orange Satan until little Hitler Markos made his March silence on all things Bernie I left and aint been back,been spending most of my web time on Caucus99percent and Kossacks for Sanders.Kinda lost right now,dont know what to think,Where is the party of FDR that my father knew?

      I see said the blind man to the deaf dog as he picked up his hammer and saw
      • madfloridian (1855 posts)
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        111. Welcome.

        I signed up at Caucus99Percent, really like the site there.  I have mostly posted here so far.  I was floridagal at DKos, and it’s been forever since I posted.   Had not heard of Kossacks for Sanders though.   Posted at Caucus once, commented some.

        Glad to see you here.  If you are lost this is a good place, we all were that way during the election.  You are right, this is not the Democratic party your father knew.

        If a person is required to be loyal to a political party and not question their stands on issues, then any semblance of real truth is lost. https://twitter.com/madfloridian
        • LEFTYFRIZZLE (6 posts)
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          112. hey floridagal

          thanks for warm welcome and kind words,you folks in the Gator state still have that southern hospitality,spent 3  years on a flattop out of Mayport Fla,Jacksonville,folks there treated us sailors like sons of their own,I have fond memory’s of my time there

          I see said the blind man to the deaf dog as he picked up his hammer and saw
          • madfloridian (1855 posts)
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            113. Well, yeh I answer to both. Gator state is about right.

            There’s 2 kinds of gators,  the ones in Gaineville at the Swamp and the ones actually in swamps.  My family are longtime FL Gator fans, avoid the other ones completely.  Well, not exactly true.  One about 10 feet long came walking down our sidewalk one night.  We called the police because they love little dogs and lots of them in our neighborhood.  I swear the whole police force came to see the gator strolling and kept the neighbors up for hours while the gator patrol was coming to get it.   You would think they’d never seen one up close.

            If a person is required to be loyal to a political party and not question their stands on issues, then any semblance of real truth is lost. https://twitter.com/madfloridian
      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        114. Hello hello hello!

        Welcome to JPR.

        We embrace FDR politics. And having lots of fun!

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        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
        • LEFTYFRIZZLE (6 posts)
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          117. thanks

          thank you for your warm welcome,this country would be a better place if we embraced FDR policys

          I see said the blind man to the deaf dog as he picked up his hammer and saw
    • clg311 (41 posts)
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      115. Banned from posting in DU

      For criticizing Clinton’s and Obama’s bloodthirsty foreign policy.  Hope this place is more open to dissenting views.

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        116. Oooooooo. Another has excaped from Site Voldemort!!

        You can’t openly name the other place, so we call it Site Voldemort or SV for short. And yes, we’re alot more open about things to be discussed. We also love our fun stuff in Daily Posts. Welcome to the home of all things Progressive.

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        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
    • Uponthegears (7 posts)
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      118. Want to be honest

      I may not be a perfect fit here, but I believe everyone has a right to speak. Seeing as how I just got flagged for review at the site that dare not speak its name after being alert stalked, I thought I’d come over here and get a couple of things off of my chest. By way of introduction, I am going to paste in a couple of old posts. The first (this one) was meant to be a call to resistance by any means necessary but ended up getting construed as a biography so I thought it would let you all know who I am as a person in terms of background. The second is where I am at vis a vis our hijacked party (the next one) Here it goes:

      “Last night I told you about a friend of mine whose tire was shot out as he was driving down the highway through Trumpland (rural Ohio). Last night I thought about him. I thought about why. I thought about what was going to be done. Most of all, I thought about his kid in high school.

      I’ve posted a little about my past and now I think I should fill in the blanks because to know where I am now you have to know where I came from. At 18, I left Sunnyside (Houston) to move to Oakland to join the Panthers. I walked those streets with a cut-down 870 in my hands and not an ounce of fear. There were no Michael Browns lying in our streets and no one was getting their tire shot out. You may say what you wish about us, but those were the facts. After a handful of dumb asses decided they were bigger than us and they’d just take off on their own and attack the cops head on, we pretty much had to split up. Thanks to the two exceptional human beings who were my parents, I ended up in Paris getting a fancy undergraduate education in what was then the most religiously, ethnically and culturally diverse educational environment in the world but also following Eldridge Cleaver. When he left, I became involved in what we call now global social justice and far left politics. After I got my degree, I joined a lay Catholic missionary group called the Maryknolls and moved to Guatemala to spread something many of us know about from our churches here, liberation theology. There, what was a religious belief in the inherent “goodness” of socialism as a tool to restore equality was cooked in a stew of whole families being murdered by US-trained right wingers and I picked up a gun for the second time and moved into the jungle. It wasn’t to protest and we did not. We did what was necessary.

      I probably should have died there, but then again I probably should have died before my 18th birthday or when I was with the Panthers. In any event, it was the looming death of my father that brought me back to the United States. It was because of his faith and hope, the faith and hope my mom and he shared with people like Dr. King, that I stayed, broke down every gun I owned, gave away every bullet, dressed for the part and went to law school.

      Over the last 30, now almost 40, years the arc for me has bent toward justice. I have been fortunate enough to be able to take massive amounts of money out of the hands of the masters and turned it over to their victims. I may have not been able to stop them from lynching us on gurney-trees, but I have made them spend millions on the rope. Despite the undeniably continuing injustice, I have believed in the direction of the arc.

      Let me return to yesterday. The ******* cops who “investigated” that attempted murder wanted to know first why my friend was there. They wanted to see all of his rental car documents. They searched his car for a gun. They told him that there was no way these would-be murderers would ever be caught. Last week that pile of human excrement who sits in the White House announced that white right wing terrorism would no longer be a priority of the DHS. The groups to which these shooters undoubtedly belonged were not the “threat” that Obama and his anti-white Justice Department (should I put a “sarcasm” smilie in here, or is it pretty obvious?) claimed. He defended the “right” of Richard Spencer to whip up these racists and that POS Milo to intentionally destroy the lives of undocumented non-citizens, invoking the First Amendment as if it was without limits. Sadly, dozens of others joined him. That’s fine for them, their privilege makes Spencer’s and Milo’s dog whistles to violence nothing but “objectionable speech” in the worlds of them and their friends.

      They are not “just words” for my friend, for me, for the people who look like me. They are not “just words” when his child is the next black person driving the car down the highway. Trump’s free pass for white supremacists is not just a policy we can point to in the next election and say “Vote Democrat.” It is a license for them to kill us.

      As I said before, I have spent a large part of almost 4 decades litigating the scope of self-defense. From today forward, every time I talk to a group of young people, I will not talk about an arc which now bends toward the chains of slavery. I will not talk about the luxury of claiming that hate speech is “free speech.” There are plenty o people out there to do that already. Instead, I will pass along what I know about their God-given and LEGAL right not to have their child end up rolled over in a ditch at the edge of an Ohio road, or, for that matter, laid out lifeless on a Missouri street.

      As for me, I will defend myself and the ones I love to the full extent that the law allows.

      This shit just got real.”

       

      • Enlightenment (871 posts)
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        120. I'm not sure why you're not sure you'll fit in.

        What I see is a lifetime of fighting toward some measure of justice for the powerless.

        Welcome to JPR. :)

        All political parties die at last of swallowing their own lies. - John Arbuthnot, 1637-1735
        • Uponthegears (7 posts)
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          122. Thank you

    • Uponthegears (7 posts)
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      119. The second one

      This is the post that started the stalking:

      Gil Toy, sycophant, author of “The Age of Clinton,” and fodder for the “We have lost our way” argument.

      I had promised myself to follow the lead of the irrepressible (and yet usually inspiring) Bravenak and eschew further comment on the Bernie supporter vs. Hillary supporter hate fest. This idolatry of Bill Clinton’s worst policies, however, is beyond the pale. Allow me to address each specific point upon which Mr. Toy offered praise for policies which hurt America and politics which hurt the Democratic Party. (I am skipping over his fawning “President Clinton shrewdly led from the center, forging a �Third Way� progressivism more balanced than the big-government, special interest group-oriented liberalism which Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush handily defeated in the 1980s.” comment.)

      Warning: This is long, but so is the TRIPE at the link in the OP

      First point:

      “Clintonite centrism embraced free trade as bringing prosperity not exporting jobs.”

      While it is no doubt true that Bill Clinton peddled free trade (e.g., NAFTA) as “bringing prosperity” and not “exporting jobs” the legacy of Clinton-era “free trade” is that the only “prosperity” it produced was for the less than 1% of Americans (and the wealthy in other countries). Yes, the stock market exploded as BIG BUSINESS (bolstered by opening markets – i.e., increased demand – and depressed labor costs) raked in record profits. Those for whom the financial sector was their primary source of income (we know them as “Wall Street”) “prospered” out the yin yang. American manufacturing jobs, however, vanished and the ones that remained saw major wage and benefit concessions in the face of job exportation to countries with low wages (oh, FYI for those people who try to blame the bulk of the loss of American manufacturing jobs on automation >>> NOT to countries with “the best robots”). In countries like Mexico, the maquiladoras, once inhabited by multiple thousands of people making (admittedly, just) enough to live on, turned into places where the relatively few number of factory workers did indeed multiply their annual incomes many times OVER (and yet no where near American wages and without American health and safety protections), but EVERYONE ELSE faced a radically inflated cost of living that left them no longer able to survive living their traditional way of life but yet not reaping the wage rewards which had inured to the factory workers. Does Mr. Toy want to talk about what happened in Latin America when (looking across the whole of Latin America) MILLIONS of people were no longer able to survive and only thousands had new manufacturing jobs? The thousands who died at the hands of corporately-controlled Latin American governments when they tried to rise up against starvation AND who died as a consequence of the “replacement economy” (criminal enterprises, including drug trafficking) which provided the only alternative to starvation in nations where their indigenous economies had been destroyed, are almost as thankful for the “prosperity” brought by “Clintonite” (Toy’s term, not mine) free trade as former American factory workers are for their nice shiny no benefit job in the service industry. But heck, the stock market boomed, so Toy thinks we should bow down before Bill.

      Second point:

      “Clinton fought crime, framing it as threat to all Americans, especially blacks.”

      Fought crime because it ‘threatened blacks’???????????????? By doing WHAT? By criminalizing the natural consequences of the racist abandonment of our urban centers? By sending drug defendants to federal prison for decades? By stripping tens of thousand of young black men out of the workforce? By politically disenfranchising them (It’s a byproduct of a felony conviction in most states. You knew that Gil, right?) and stripping thousands of votes out of urban communities? And what happened to crime: in 1982, when Bill took office, Chicago had 668 murders. In 1990, when he left, it had 851. Yea Mr. Toy, we should duplicate what Bill did . . . NOT A CHANCE. We needed federal capital to replace the racist rich folks who left us behind, Bill sent us federal COPS.

      Third point:

      “With no one explaining . . . how dysfunctional the welfare system was, how two-thirds of blacks supported initiatives, Clinton�s legislation seemed draconian”

      Should we start with the subtle racism of claiming that the fact that “two-thirds of blacks” supported welfare reform somehow proved it wasn’t “draconian?” Newsflash Mr. Toy, “two-thirds of blacks” weren’t hurt by welfare reform because WE AREN’T THE MF’S ON WELFARE. Because I have represented hundred of people from impoverished AA communities over the last three decades AND because I grew up in one (Sunnyside), I’ll give you a little clue, the “welfare reform” that appealed so much to the suburban whites (yea, even more than “two-thirds”) that the YOU want the party to target, brought nothing but despair to the vast majority of people it did affect and drained even more capital from our urban centers.

      As disgusting as Mr. Toy’s praise for Bill Clinton’s three most anti-core-traditional-Democratic-constituency policies may be, his simultaneous attack on Hillary AND Bernie is even more so.

      Bernie trashing:

      Bernie is attacked for “pulling Hillary to the left” (and called this year’s Nader, but more about that later). Toy disparagingly claims:

      “As an independent, Sanders lacked such loyalty. His hip campaign addressed the displaced and disempowered” (The irony of this accusation is hard to miss . . . Bernie is normally attacked for NOT appealing to the “displaced and disempowered)

      Hillary trashing:

      The REAL insults, however, are toward Hillary who Toy accuses of being “enfeebled” by Sanders (sexist much there Mr. Toy?) and who he attacks for “desperately appealing to different special interests” AND who he chides because “Characteristically, after winning Super Tuesday, she declared: ‘We have to defend all our rights�workers� rights, and women�s rights, civil rights and voting rights, LGBT rights and rights for people with disabilities.'”

      When Hillary made that statement, it was NOT because she was “enfeebled” by Bernie Sanders. It was NOT because she was weak. It was because Hillary Clinton STRONGLY and PROUDLY stood up for OUR PEOPLE AND OUR PARTY.

      Mr. Toy can talk about how we have to get back to “Bill” all he wants, but the fact of the matter is that Hillary Clinton was ten times the Democrat that Bill Clinton will ever be and ten times the better person.

      One final little point (a personal one) . . . obviously if Nader voters would have all voted for Gore, Gore would have taken Florida. Because of this, people like Mr. Toy who want this party to run AGAINST our core constituencies blame “liberals” for 2000.

      There was something else though that could have changed the result in Florida as well, something that Mr. Toy and others like him don’t want to talk about. The conventional wisdom is that Gore lost by hundreds, not thousands, of votes. Prior to the 2000 election, Florida used ChoicePoint to purge thousands and thousands of mostly black convicted felons from Florida voter rolls. I was among a number of attorneys who were contacted by these men to try to get them back on the rolls before the election. Because they were poor, because they were powerless, and because they were, after all, felons, it became clear that this effort was going to require both financial help and mainstream support from the national party. They were turned away. People like Mr. Toy told us that there was no way that, after Willie Horton, the Democratic Party was going to make it possible for Republicans to make a black convicted felon the image of the party.

      Yes, we could have won if Nader voters had just got over the fact that Gore had selected the traitorous-to-our-party right-wing Joe Lieberman as a running mate and got in line but we could have ALSO WON if the Gil Toy’s in the Party had the courage to stand up for the most powerless of Democratic constituencies the same way Hillary did in her “characteristic” post-convention statement.

      Maybe it would have helped if Hillary could have done some things different, but that is pure speculation. FOR SURE it would have helped if we didn’t get rf’d by everyone from the FBI to Putin AND if Republicans hadn’t used CrossCheck to do exactly what they did in Florida in 2000. What wouldn’t have helped is to go back to sacrificing “workers� rights, and women�s rights, civil rights and voting rights, LGBT rights and rights for people with disabilities” on the altar of placating white suburbanites who want to see “criminals” locked up forever and people receiving welfare forced to live on the streets.

      Mr. Toy, I do not believe in the least that Hillary Clinton is anything near to being “the same as a Republican.”

      You sir, however, ARE.

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        121. Welcome to JPR.

        I’m not real sure there is such a thing as a ‘perfect fit’ here. We’re all different and we all see things a little differently so we make room for diverse opinions and feelings. That is a trademark of this site.

        Come and join a bunch of individuals bound by the desire for a progressive future.

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        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
        • Uponthegears (7 posts)
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          123. Thank you for the pointers!!!

          I am on it.

          • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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            124. de nada

            I hope you give us a new and unique view on all this shit that’s happening all over the place.

            "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
      • Land of Enchantment (6689 posts)
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        125. Greetings and welcome Uponthegears.

        Ummm, I wanted to say I thoroughly enjoyed your first post but had some serious problems with the second one. Most if not all of our members see things differently regarding HRC. You will soon find that she and Trump are equally reviled here.

        :welcome:

         

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      126. From state of CT and was a frequent poster on Site Voldemort

      Haven’t been banned yet, but am getting tired of my threads and posts being removed because I dare criticize a Democratic Party leader, the latest being Tom Perez.  I’m currently the Chair of my town’s Democratic Party.  On my 4th term.  I have no issues if people want to criticize me.  If their complaints are legit, I make changes; otherwise, I don’t have to agree with them and can leave it at that.

      I’ve lurked here in the past but hope to participate more with my fellow Bernie supporters and Progressives.

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        127. Welcome to exile land.

        Seems a lot of people are having trouble being able to talk about changes needed in the party without getting smelly stuff thrown at them. We’re a group of individuals that like discussing progressive ideas and ideals and how to achieve them. Since you seem to be involved in the actual Dem process, you might be able to keep us in line as to the real workings within the party, especially at the local level. Welcome to JPR.

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      • Haikugal (5310 posts)
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        128. Welcome!

          Be the bird.....       Hey DNC! Up Yours! It's ON!! Kick against the pricks!!!
    • unfork-yourself (19 posts)
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      129. Is that you, John Wayne?

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        130. Welcome to JPR!

        Not so sure John is here though……….

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        • unfork-yourself (19 posts)
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          131. Private Joke ;~) woooshhh sorry

          something about giving it to them good and hard?

          They’ve declared war on the 99%. They’ve got the guns, we’ve got the numbers. Gonna win! Yeah, we’re taking over???

           

          BTW Thanks for the welcome

          • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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            132. It would be nice if we took over.

            That would be a real rush.

            "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
            • unfork-yourself (19 posts)
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              133. Took over what exactly?

              The democratic left is lost, we are in complete disarray.  When people are saying *why don’t* or* why didn’t*  their party do XYZ it underscores their lack of comprehension of the situation at hand.  Until that is corrected nothing will change.

              They can be no *taking over* until their is a thorough comprehension of WTF is going on.  And clearly, the gas lighting has rendered the left incoherent and confused as to who what and why we are disenfranchised.

              But yeah, it would be nice to be in the drivers seat!

               

              Thx again ;~)

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    • bekkilyn (28 posts)
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      135. Hello from NC

      Hello all, I kept hearing people over on the other site yelling about this one, so felt an obligation to check it out. I’m not in any disputes with the site or site owner (to my knowledge) but I’m also an unapologetic Bernie supporter, and there are times when I just need to be away from the Bernie bashing and Democratic conservatives without feeling like I need to walk on super-fragile eggshells. Anyway, from reading the posts here for a while, people don’t seem nearly as “evil” as I’d been led to expect. :)

      Rebecca #giraffewatch 2017
      • RadicleFantast (1313 posts)
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        136. Welcome bekkilyn

        How evil would you like us to be?
        Some of us are very accommodating.

        • bekkilyn (28 posts)
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          137. Thank you!

          As for how evil? Probably best to just be yourself (plural) and leave it up for judgment. :)

          Rebecca #giraffewatch 2017
        • Green Dog Dem (3276 posts)
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          158. Especially Satan.

          Aloha! KamaAina in the hale (house).
      • Land of Enchantment (6689 posts)
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        140. Greetings! We are happy to have you here. Please get unpacked and settle in!

        :welcome:

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
        • bekkilyn (28 posts)
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          141. Thank you! (nt)

          Rebecca #giraffewatch 2017
      • VoiceOfReason (989 posts)
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        143. welcome

        I am from NC too.

        There are a lot of NC people here.

        We nice!

        "Men who do evil brilliantly are often admired"  Voltaire BERN BABY BERN!!  War is madness!
        • bekkilyn (28 posts)
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          157. Thank you!

          Glad to hear there are a number of NC folks. The more the better to give a progressive boot to the GOP and teabaggers!

          Rebecca #giraffewatch 2017
    • Toby719 (109 posts)
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      138. Hello

      • Haikugal (5310 posts)
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        139. Hello!

        Welcome :hi:

          Be the bird.....       Hey DNC! Up Yours! It's ON!! Kick against the pricks!!!
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          145. Thankss

          My mom is in hospital getting replacement.

           

          Soon as ahe is doing better…I’ll be active

          • Haikugal (5310 posts)
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            146. Wishing her a speedy recovery.

            I’m looking forward to you becoming more active. Maybe Mom can join us too!

              Be the bird.....       Hey DNC! Up Yours! It's ON!! Kick against the pricks!!!
            • Toby719 (109 posts)
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              148. Dont think so

              My mom is the “B” in Bawah’ston 

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        142. Welcome to JPR.

        Come on in and be with progressives. If you have any questions or need any help just go to the Help and Q&A Forum.

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          146. Thanks

          I’m not use to this stuff. My husband Bob, would do all of this.

          Goldman Sachs robbed us, driving him into an early grave.

          • Mnpaul (1116 posts)
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            149. Welcome

            If you need any help, you can use the Help & Q&A section. In there is Deadpool’s Ultimate How to thread:

            https://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/ultimate-how-to-thread/

            If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything - Hamilton
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              150. Thanks

              Good motto ..there

               

              Stand up or be run over (like now)

    • Robot X (100 posts)
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      151. I'm here from another world.

      For some reason I was under the illusion it was a place for progressives like myself. Then the primaries happened. To say things got ugly is an understatement. My core values (i.e. rejecting unnecessary war and promoting economic justice) were reduced to childish fantasies of a woman hating, basement dweller who doesn’t understand the value of public and private positions of political candidates and endless military conflict on foreign soil as a natural state of being.

      After several hidden posts which no sane person would consider alert worthy I left. Maybe this place will be a better fit.

       

       

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        153. Welcome to a progressive world……

        Welcome to JPR.

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      • HassleCat (927 posts)
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        155. I like it here. I think you will too.

        I find I can write a post here without it being combed and parsed for a hint of political incorrectness, a tiny bit of disloyalty to the DNC, etc. This is much better for me because I enjoy satire and sarcasm, and most people here tolerate me.

      • Ohio Barbarian (3146 posts)
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        156. Love your Day the Earth Stood Still avatar.

        :welcome:

        "Identity politics is the last refuge of the politically incompetent."  --Me, with a hat tip to Isaac Asimov  
    • Pissodes strobi (1 posts)
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      152. New member in safe and progressive california

      Turning those around me harder left ever god damn day!

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        154. Hi strobi!

        Welcome to a safe progressive site!

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        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
    • John Poet (15 posts)
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      159. Another refugee

      Another longtime-progressive refugee from that hack-bait DNC-sycophant oatmeal-dem fascist site whose name shall not be named here.  (As a loyal Democrat, I even publicly supported Hillary against Trump once the nomination was decided, but I guess I wasn’t panting hard enough over her to please everyone there, sooo…)

      I was here briefly before the domain change.  Hopefully I can make a home here without having to measure every single word wondering how many can’t wait to “alert” on me because I supported Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primaries!

       

      P.S.   I really hate Trump and his whole chain-gang of accomplices.

       

      John Poet      
      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        161. Welcome to the best exile you'll ever find.

        Come on in and get acquainted!

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        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
    • iggy (934 posts)
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      160. Better late than never

      Glad I found You.

      You might find this an interesting read

      http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/new_world_order/news.php?q=1201230200

      Truth has no Expiration Date. Life without Dignity is Slavery.
      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        162. Welcome to JPR.

        Be sure to check out our forums, where we can learn a lot and have some fun!

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        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
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      163. noiretblu checking in again (noiretextatique)

      I’ve been absent for quite a while, so I am checking in again. I have also been absent from the other place, but recently started lurking. Today, there were two threads blaming the left for drumpf, so I made the decision to dump them for good and lurk/post here.  Hello everyone!

       

      • Deadpool (8721 posts)
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        164. Welcome to JPR

        • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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          165. Hey, that's my cousin!!!

          "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        166. Hi! Welcome to the nut house


        er, I mean JPR.

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    • John Q Citizen (12 posts)
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      167. Hello all

      I found this jpr group back near the beginning of the Sanders primary campaign but then got so involved in the campaign itself that i never got time to get back here.

      How’s it going?

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        168. Hello John Q

        Things are going fine here at JPR. We’re continuing the fight against right wing garbage. Come on in and join us in getting ready for 2018.

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      • Land of Enchantment (6689 posts)
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        173. Greetings and welcome to the partee. I for one would love to

        hear about your experiences working with Bernie’s campaign. Do you know about the People’s Summit? Mary and So Far From Heaven are attending for sure—-

        https://jackpineradicals.com/boards/forum/main/peoples-summit-2017/

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
    • Scissorhands (58 posts)
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      169. Hi.

      New member here. I believe Bernie is the closest thing to FDR I’ll see in my lifetime.

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        170. Hi Scissorhands, welcome to JPR!

        Bernie is better than FDR. I’ve waited years and years and years for someone like him.

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      • Land of Enchantment (6689 posts)
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        174. Hi yourself! I agree! There was a great post about FDR's letter

        (on a Jimmy Dore video) and it blew my mind…..looking for it…..

        Here ya go!

        https://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/jds-fdr-letter-to-democratic-convention/

        Welcome!

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    • SandersIndie (1 posts)
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      171. HI THERE!!!!

      I’m new kinda.

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        172. Well, everyone was new at some point. Welcome to JPR.

        Be sure to browse the forums for all the different things we have for members to engage in!

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      175. New member in December 2015…

      New member in December 2015; Old member since that time.

      Being asked to post TEN before an OP now on the dot-com… what???

      Where are all my postings, as well as all member posts from JackPineRadicals.org? I would really like to link to some of them.

      Anyway, hi!

       

         copySolidarity...
      • Deadpool (8721 posts)
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        176. …

        We set a post limit so spam bots couldn’t post after signing up.

        As for your .org posts… we were unable to move them over from the old site.

    • durruti (11 posts)
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      177. Hi, I finally made an account ~nt~

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        178. Welcome to progressives central!!

        We have a lot going on right now with the Peoples Summit and all, so come on in and join the crowd!

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      179. Just stopping in to say WELCOME to one and all!

      I,am sorry I’m behind in this.

      If you have any questions that you can’t find an answer to in the Q&A forum or in FAQ,  please send me or any admin ormod a private message.

      Oi245KQ-1 "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        180. Hiya Marym!!!

        Thanks for coming in!!!

        And thanks for offering to help if they have questions that aren’t in the Q&A thread as well. I may or may not know the answer to all their questions. Probably don’t.

        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
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          181. I probably won't either. But I'll give it a shot

          :hi:

          Oi245KQ-1 "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
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      182. mt13 joining in!

      Be still when you have nothing to say, (but) when genuine passion moves you, say what you've got to say, and say it hot. ~ D. H. Lawrence
      • Deadpool (8721 posts)
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        183. Welcome to JPR!

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        185. Welcome to the LIGHT side.

        @deadpool has no idea what he’s talking about.

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      184. Checking in

      Hello radicals. Greetings from northern virginia, just a few miles outside our nation’s (esteemed?) captial. I am a single mother and also a restaurant manager (feels like I have 17 kids), so unfortunately I do no find a lot of free time to write or participate, but I am attempting to make the time for activism in my life for the sake of my son (and ultimately everyone’s children).

      Most of my life I have been jaded and cynical towards politics in general… and have only recently realized that I need to get off my a$$ and do something about “changing” things instead of accepting the bs we’ve been forced to eat. I’ve had my fill.

      I genuinely hope that together with like minds I may be able to help our country grow in a more positive direction for us all in the future.

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        186. Howdy howdy amnesiac.

        It’s O-K, you can say “get off my ass” and even say “bullshit’ here.

        Wait till you see @dorkzilla go to town on a thread. She’s a wonderfully colorful poster that we’re all proud of.

        Watch out for that @deadpool guy. He thinks he’s the cats meow. He’s so full of it I had to adopt him. And the boss around here is a really cool lady named @marym625. She’ll only whack you if you’re REALLY bad.

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        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
        • CleavesForCongress (32 posts)
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          197. lol Thanks … Who doesn't need a good whacking once in a while?

      • Marym625 (21502 posts)
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        187. Welcome!

        What @sofarfromheaven said is correct. We do not censor words. It’s the intent not the words that matter.

        For instance, I like to say, when talking about riding a motorcycle, I’m never thebitch on the back, I’m the cunt on the front. :mary:

        We’ll be very happy to take any time you have to share with us. It’s all about protecting our elderly, like SoFarFromheaven, and our little ones. At least in my mind.

        :hi:

        Oi245KQ-1 "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
      • Deadpool (8721 posts)
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        188. Welcome to JPR!

        @sofarfromheaven is correct, you have to watch out for me. I’m a bad Deadpool. 

        • CleavesForCongress (32 posts)
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          196. I'll keep my eyes wide open then lol

    • CleavesForCongress (32 posts)
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      189. Hello From Maine, I'm Loving what I see here! Also, Pinebox Sent Me .

      Hi all, My first time posting and as I said in the heading, Pinebox sent me to this wonderful place.  A bit about myself and hope I will be a good fit. I’m just a normal guy who is running for U.S. Congress against an incumbent multimillionaire corporate owned Republican . I’m running a grassroots campaign in a very poor District in Maine, District 02, Which encompasses about 9/10th of the State. I’m running with Bernies Platform, Medicareforall, pre-paid college, pre-pain trade schools, End Citizens United, Climate Change, Equal Rights for everyone, Etc. Etc. I can’t remember about links, but here is one to my campaign website…. http://phil82961.wixsite.com/cleavesforcongress ….  It’s still in progress because 1.) no idea how to make one  lol 2.) I’m the only person I can afford to pay at the moment. I know the Dem Establishment will be coming after me soon so I’m trying to get myself more Recognition and may get some donations to fend off the Establishment. I want to thank Pinebox for letting me know about you’re place and to thank you all for having me over for Suppah (Remember, I’m from Maine, it’s how we talk and type  lol )  Thanks Again

      • spud demon (874 posts)
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        191. Welcome to JPR, and I hope you win!

        Cubs, Google+, Weird Al, BMW
        • CleavesForCongress (32 posts)
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          192. Thanks …. I'll need all the support I can get, Running against a

          Koch Brother puppet who is also a multimillionaire

      • Pinebox (400 posts)
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        193. Glad you made it on here buddy! You'll like it here!

        This place simply rocks and you are very much home here :)

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        194. Welcome to JackPine Radicals!!!

        Sorry this is a little late, but I’ve been busy getting ready to go to the Peoples Summit.

        I think you will find a little bit of just about everything Bernie here, so please come on in and start educating us on your run for Congress. Most may really appreciate an inside view of what is wrong and what is right about America.

        And watch out for a shifty character calls hissself @deadpool. Shifty shifty shifty.

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        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
      • Marym625 (21502 posts)
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        195. Welcome!

        I’m going to bereally busy atthe People’s Summit until Monday. But let us know how we can help get you in office!

        Great to have you here

        Oi245KQ-1 "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
    • dbenac (10 posts)
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      199. David Benac

      Hi,

      I am happy to join up with this progressive group.  I am running for Congress in the Sixth District of Michigan and I would like to share my ideas and get your input on how to better implement a bold, progressive agenda in a largely rural and conservative district.

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        200. Hi David, and welcome to JPR.

        I’ll have your interview up as soon as I can get that lazy deadbeat @deadpool to get his act together and get it up so the members can meet you in person as it were. It was very nice of you to take the time out for the interview and I’d like to thank you personally for the opportunity.

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        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
      • Land of Enchantment (6689 posts)
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        201. Welcome to JPR! I wish you all the best and am going to

        call   @cascadiance   to put on our 2018 Candidates List.  Best!

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
      • Marym625 (21502 posts)
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        202. Hey David

        Welcome!

        If you remember, the camera decided to die during your interview. Half is uploaded and half is on its way to our @deadpool.

        My guess is it will be up by tomorrow or Friday at the latest.

        It was a pleasure speaking with you at the Summit. We’ll get you JackpineRadicals Act Blue For David Benac soon.

        When is the election?

        Oi245KQ-1 "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
      • cascadiance (2157 posts)
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        203. Welcome David… I went to high school in Michigan many years back…

        …. about the time that the TV was full of impeachment hearings for the last Republican president that was in big trouble of being pushed out of office then.

        Wen to high school in Williamston near the Lansing area where my dad was a professor at MSU then.  Used to drive through your district a lot when I went to college at Univ. of Iowa driving back home from break, etc.

        You are now in the 2018 candidates list.

        Vote AGAINST the race to the bottom by both corporate parties who seek to screw workers over globally!                                                                                  
    • Welch0327 (1 posts)
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      204. Just Got in Here

      Hi All!

       

      I’m really glad to be here in this community. I feel that I’ll be able to discuss sensible things with sensible people. 

      "Life is too short to be too serious all the time" -Layout and Graphics Artist at Petstreetmall
      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        205. Welcome, welcome, welcome!

        We do have a bunch of sensible people, since we’re all Bern fans.

        Welcome to JPR!

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        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
      • Stockholmer (1341 posts)
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        206. Welcome to the best American political forum I have found

    • dragon luvs tiger (1 posts)
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      207. Hello, new from F-L-A

      Damn glad to meet you.  

      • Deadpool (8721 posts)
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        208. …

      • so far from heaven (10040 posts)
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        209. Come on in, the water's fine.

        You should watch out for that @deadpool dude though. He’s shifty.

        But he has the ultimate fun thread every day called Daily Trivia in the Daily Posts Forum.

        You’ll meet a lot of really cool people there.

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        "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
    • boxcar joe (18 posts)
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      210. How do I post?

      I have 11 posts, but haven’t been on in awhile.  I have something new to share and would like to do so.  How should I proceed?

      • boxcar joe (18 posts)
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        211. It ok, it's working now.