New York cancels presidential primary, citing coronavirus, after Sanders camp asked to stay on ballot

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    • #308869
      So Far From Heaven
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      Leave it to Fox News to get the side discussions on this…. Story is HERE

      With this decision, New York became the first state to cancel its primary altogether, though 16 states have postponed their primaries amid the pandemic and many have taken steps to encourage voting by mail.

      The announcement drew fire from Sanders supporters. On Sunday, Sanders’ campaign asked the New York State Board of Elections to let his name remain on the Democratic primary ballot, saying doing so would impede “efforts to unify the Democratic Party in advance of November elections.”

      “It is completely wrong for the BOE to cancel New York’s Presidential Primary,” tweeted New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who had endorsed Sanders in the race. “This decision is not informed by public health: the state is still holding elections for every other seat that day, & so far the only way your ballot will 100% be counted in NY is to vote in person!”

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      “Suppressing the Sanders vote in New York will again lead to attacks on the Party across the nation and harm the volunteer effort that our group and others are building,” said Paco Fabian, the group’s communications and campaigns director. “What is the possible motivation here besides trying to return control of 274 delegates to the bureaucratic party. Apparently, The NY State Board of Elections thinks democracy is a beauty contest.”

      No shit, gonna burn the fields so everyone dies….

    • #308875
      Ohio Barbarian
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      What did anyone expect? They’re not going to allow Bernie to collect any more delegates if possible. They’re not going to hold any more primaries, and Bernie’s not going to do a gods-damned thing about it!

      He can easily prove me wrong, but speeches and lawsuits do not count as doing anything about it. Not in my book. Not this year. If he wants to do something about it, it must be meaningful. Withdrawing his servile endorsement of Joe Biden would be a good start. Failing that, don’t waste my time.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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    • #308890
      ThouArtThat
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      @sffh

      Hi sffh,

      With yet another betrayal by vichy dems, one humbly suggests that JPR become a focal point for efforts to organize and start a third party.  Any pretense that the two party duopoly can be reformed is surely nothing but trash talk.  The path forward is clear from this perspective.

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    • #308908
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      I’m different than some others in that I would support voting Biden. Only because we have now had our “disruption” that Sarandon was saying was the silver lining last time. Trump has done enough damage.  Instead of increasing the left’s influence, the DNC doubled down to snuff them and their candidate and I suspect a plan to move further right. Progressive hopes will be put on the back burner no matter who wins now. The choice is yet another term of a third way Corporcrat, but who will at least be held in check somewhat by the progressive wing of the party, for what its worth.  I know not much, but its not nothing either, they have more prominence today than yesterday. I understand the frogs in a slowly heated pot can be more dangerous to the frogs than cranking up the heat at once, so they jump out, but this is an unusual historic case. If it was Biden vs. Dole or McCain, there would be not much of a loss if R’s win. But Trump is a dangerous authoritarian criminal that will definitely destroy whatever institutions are left that progressives rely on, maybe even freedom of the press.  And worse, normalizing whatever form of Gilead he builds. So that instead of being in a place with progressives having to win back concessions just to get back to a pre-Obama balance, let alone pre-Clinton, it will be 10 more big steps behind that.

      Okay, my point is that Corporcrats sound like they are already dancing on Sanders supporters graves. And if they continue on this path, and underestimate not only the loss of votes from the left, but the lack of their most energetic and young election volunteers in the base, they will all but guarantee a Trump win.  Maybe some here are happy with this development if it alienates even more voters away from voting D.  Not myself.

    • #308923
      Captain Arizona
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      Over their at corporate establishment democrat party hq they are amazed that any democrat would get angry to have their voting rights disenfranchised. They feel anyone who is upset must not be a “real” democrat like them! This is the same stuff they pulled in 2016.

      • #308939
        So Far From Heaven
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        you aren’t disenfranchised by the party. You CAN’T be disenfranchised by the party in nominating a candidate. They DON’T have to have anything like a general election of endorsement.

        Dead serious here. The parties (both majors at least) are in fact ‘associations’ or ‘clubs’ or whatever the fuck they want to be, and their rules and bylaws are whatever the fuck they want to have, and how they ‘select’ a candidate is up to them. There are ZERO state of federal laws requiring elections of nominated candidacy.

        Try a court case in Florida, I can’t remember which one, where the DNC said just that, and it was upheld by the courts.

    • #309046
      Captain Arizona
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      So far from heaven what you say is both legally and factually true. But! The democratic party does everything it can to fool people into thinking other wise. Tom perez doesn’t go around saying we are a club and we will decide for you what the “club” does. The catholic church has tried to defend itself from law suites by saying their priests are independent contractors until a court asked them to put signs on their confessional booths that they were ministered to by an independent contractor not the official church. If people see that they are being played for fools some of them might get angry and vote third party. Remember nobody has to vote for a sexual predator!

    • #309058
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      Imagine how embarrassing it would be for the party’s chosen candidate to be beat by a candidate not even running.  Sucks for any down ballot progressives though since probably many people won’t show up at all now.

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