No real reason Benie Sanders should not be the nominee.

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  • #249435

    HassleCat
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    As Bernie rises in the polls, the centrists are sounding their usual alarms about moving too far left, the vulnerability of running a self-proclaimed socialist, and the rest. These are the same people who invented the word “electability” so Joe Biden could have a magic quality that nobody else could claim. What the centrists are saying is how much they hate and fear Bernie Sanders. There seems to be a veiled threat here, a suggestion that the party regulars will not support Bernie in the general election. Of course, some of this is just to scare people away from Bernie, but there is some genuine hatred for Bernie out there, and some of the party faithful would rather see Trump reelected if it helped them keep their centrist, third way, neocon death grip on the party. Is this blackmail or extortion? They are threatening to do exactly what they condemn, refuse to support the “wrong” Democratic nominee. But I’m ignoring them and recommending my friends ignore them, too.

    Just to be clear, I will vote for Biden if he gains the nomination by fair means. I will only refuse to vote for him if he cheats to defeat his primary opponents. Even though he cares so little about his fellow Democrats that he recommends voting for Republicans down ballot, I recognize a Biden presidency would be marginally better than another Trump term. Probably. I don’t think he can win fair and square, so I am facing up to the unpleasant possibility that I may withhold my vote as punishment for cheating.

  • #249437

    jbnw
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    Just to be clear, I will not vote for Biden under any circumstances.  I know his track record of supporting businesses and not people – and that’s just one reason.

    We have accepted the lesser of two evils for too many years – I want the best of candidates.

  • #249440

    The Red Menace
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    I share jbnw’s sentiment; there is no occasion under which I could entertain the idea of voting for Joe Biden. Even Clinton had a glimmer of hope of catching my vote… but not this fucking senile eggplant. I have no obligation to injure myself just to cater to the fantasy held by Democrats that electing someone who is TO THE RIGHT OF DONALD TRUMP on most issues, will somehow be better than Trump.

  • #249451

    PADemD
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    Neither Biden nor Trump will do anything meaningful to combat climate change.  I will not vote for either one.

  • #249635

    Jan Boehmermann
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    Joe Biden?  No thanks!

  • #249641

    djean111
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    I will not vote for Biden (or any other Vichy Dem).  And after seeing how the DNC/Democratic Party, Inc. cheated Bernie – and us – in California, in 2016, I have to actually laugh at the very idea of “fair means” when it comes to Vichy Dems.   Not even Bernie could get me to vote for Biden.  Bernie, or Green if Bernie is not the candidate.  Period.  Done.

    I will not vote for a Vichy Dem. Period. As always, I decide who is a Vichy Dem.

    Bernie's ISSUES or Bust!

  • #249649

    sadoldgirl
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    I will never vote for anyone who supported

    the illegal war against Iraq. That decision was

    and is the most important one any member of

    Congress could make. As we see today the US

    is not even willing to withdraw when asked to

    do so; thus we are occupiers. No way would or

    could I condone that by voting for Biden or

    Trump!

    • #249651

      HassleCat
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      To make matters worse, Biden could very well escalate the war in Iraq. I may refuse to vote for him no matter how desperate I get.

  • #249748

    Ohio Barbarian
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    It’s gotta be Bernie. I will not vote for a man who sponsored a law that now costs me $92 per biweekly paycheck. That part’s personal. I also will not vote for a man who is to the right of Ronald Reagan on many issues. Joe Biden cannot defeat Trump, and he must not be allowed to be the nominee.

    Come to think of it, Biden’s hurt me personally more than has Trump, and tens of millions of Americans can say the same thing. NAFTA alone…gods! This guy should be expelled from the Democratic Party!

    We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.--Franklin Delano Roosevelt

    With Bernie Sanders, we have the receipts. --Nina Turner

    • #249756

      djean111
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      @ohiobarbarian

      Biden IS the Democratic Party.

      I will not vote for a Vichy Dem. Period. As always, I decide who is a Vichy Dem.

      Bernie's ISSUES or Bust!

      • #249762

        Ohio Barbarian
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        And that is why they lose, and that is why people like Biden should be forced out. Until they are, I ain’t no Democrat.

        We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.--Franklin Delano Roosevelt

        With Bernie Sanders, we have the receipts. --Nina Turner

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