No, Science Clearly Shows That COVID-19 Wasn’t Leaked From A Wuhan Lab

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      eridani
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      https://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/no-science-clearly-shows-that-covid-19-wasnt-leaked-from-a-wuhan-lab

      The first red flag that should leap out at you, but perhaps only if you have some knowledge of virology to begin with, is the very idea that you could “know” what certain mutations would do — i.e., that you’d know what you’d create and what effect it would have on humans — without extensive testing in humans themselves. This means, right off the bat, that if SARS-CoV-2 were engineered for the purpose of infecting and severely harming humans, it would have had to have been tested in at least hundreds of human subjects in order for scientists to know how effective it was. While we do have the ability to manipulate the genomes of viruses, or any other organism, for that matter, what we don’t have the ability to do is to know how that will translate into effects of the virus in human (or any living) subjects.

      —Wuhan Institute for Virology was studying bat viruses: RaTG13, to be specific. This bat virus is not a direct ancestor of SARS-CoV-2.
      —The first cases of COVID-19 in humans occurred in two places: linked to a wet market near the Wuhan Institute, and in more distant, rural areas where contact between humans and wild animals are common.
      —None of the staff at the Wuhan Institute were infected with SARS-CoV-2; they were PCR/antibody negative, which should be disqualifying for the lab leak hypothesis.
      —And, perhaps most importantly, the idea that SARS-CoV-2 was “perfectly adapted to humans” on first emergence is untrue; this variant appears to be a “generalist” virus.

      What about the fact that this virus, unique among viruses in this particular genus, possesses a furin-like cleavage site? Furin cleavage is critical to many viral diseases: HIV, Ebola, and Influenzas H5 and H7. These sites occur in many genera of coronavirus, and in betacoronavirus (which SARS-CoV-2 is) in general. A recent study shows that these sites occur naturally in coronaviruses.

      What about China’s plan to “unleash the coronavirus” on the world? In 2015, a conspiracy theory was published, in Chinese, claiming that the United States genetically engineered the original SARS virus as a biological weapon against China. This conspiracy has morphed through a network of Rupert Murdoch-owned publications to reverse the perpetrator and the victim, but there’s no story there at all.

      Jesus: Hey, Dad? God: Yes, Son? Jesus: Western civilization followed me home. Can I keep it? God: Certainly not! And put it down this minute--you don't know where it's been! Tom Robbins in Another Roadside Attraction

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      PADemD
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      Dr. Anthony Fauci has called on the Chinese government to release medical records of nine people, including three researchers who worked at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and fell ill weeks before the first reported case of Covid-19, as it might provide vital information on the origins of the Covid-19 outbreak amid speculation that the coronavirus may have leaked out from the Wuhan lab.

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2021/06/04/fauci-asks-beijing-to-release-medical-records-of-wuhan-lab-workers-who-fell-sick-in-2019/?sh=365df1a13773

       

      Maybe they all ate their lunch in the wet market (sarcasm).

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      Ohio Barbarian
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      Then again, I’m not a virologist, and now I see different virologists saying different things.

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      • #427745
        soryang
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        more data is needed. even those who say zoonotic is more likely concede more investigation is needed and that the lab origin hypothesis hasn’t been ruled out.

    • #427781
      eridani
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      — for that matter, what we don’t have the ability to do is to know how that will translate into effects of the virus in human (or any living) subjects.

      Jesus: Hey, Dad? God: Yes, Son? Jesus: Western civilization followed me home. Can I keep it? God: Certainly not! And put it down this minute--you don't know where it's been! Tom Robbins in Another Roadside Attraction

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