North Korea says missile test was 'new' submarine-based launch

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    (AFP) North Korea says its latest weapons test was of a submarine-launched ballistic missile that marked a “new phase” in its defence capability, just days before the resumption of stalled nuclear talks with the US.

    The test was by far the most provocative since Pyongyang first began a dialogue with Washington in 2018, and marked a significant step in North Korea’s nuclear weapons programme, analysts said.

    A proven submarine-based missile capability would take the North’s arsenal to a new level, allowing deployment far beyond the Korean peninsula and a second-strike capability in the event of an attack on its military bases.

    “The new-type ballistic missile was fired in vertical mode” on Wednesday in the waters off Wonsan Bay, the Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) reported, identifying the weapon as a Pukguksong-3.

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    Oh, that’s OK.   Our Prez is a good bud of their Prez.   They’ll make a magnificent and bigly deal and swap South Korea for California.

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    He is going to launch it. Mark my words. I wouldn’t want to live in the Pacific Islands right now. A man baby is playing with a man baby

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      @roguevalley or anywhere in Korea or Japan. I live in Goseong County which is on the eastern side of Korea near the boarder. It’s only about 23 miles up to the DMZ from where I live.

      By the way I was in the greater greater Medford area back in early July. Damn is that place growing fast.

      American living abroad in South Korea and a proud progressive.

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    WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 2, 2019

    North Korean missile launch in context

    We also had Moon Jae In’s speech yesterday for Armed Forces Day extolling South Korean military strength, accompanied by flights of its newly acquired F-35s. Japan took the opportunity to formally complain and reassert its bogus territorial claim to Dokto which was overflown by one of the South Korean fighters covered live on South Korean television.

    Another observer pointed out that the Russians test launched an ICBM on Sep. 30. Yesterday, China displayed it’s new ICBMs at a military parade commemorating the 70th anniversary of the PRC.

    The new US defense secretary has been promoting the deployment of US IRBMs in the far east now that the US is no longer constrained by the treaty with Russia on that category of weapons.

    So the test launch of a SLBM today near Wonsan North Korea takes place in this international context as well as the context of UN sanctions and US-DPRK negotiations.

    I saw a translation of a report from a Japanese newspaper yesterday that said the US was planning to deploy IRBMs in Japan within two years.

    The North Koreans are years away from an operational SLBM capability with a submarine.

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      @soryang Good point. This launch did not take place in a vacuum. It’s a warning–basically, “Don’t think you can fuck with us.”

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      @soryang it is Dokdo

      The Koreans and Japanese have been fighting over it for decades. One of these days someone is going to do something stupid and start a full-fledged conflict between the two countries.

      Giving anything other than defensive weapons to Japan is a big mistake.

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        @davidpdx It’s been 20 years since I was in Korea, Pusan to be exact, when I was in the Navy. I remember an old Korean man telling me we Americans made a mistake when we didn’t exterminate the Japanese when we had the chance. Is that kind of sentiment common in Korea?

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          @ohiobarbarian I think that particular person was on the extreme side of the hatred of Japanese. Yes, there is no love loss between the two countries and even the kids are taught to hate the Japanese.

          A few random stories on that:

          1. I was married to a Korean for 12 years and she had a Japanese friend. When her friend visited Korea for our wedding she and my father-in-law were able to speak back and forth in Japanese because he was forced to learn how to speak the language during the Japanese occupation of Korea.
          2. After I arrived in Korea I told my roommates that I wanted to learn the subway system so I could get around on my own. One my coworkers was going somewhere the next day and I got invited along. We took the subway to Seodaemun Prison where Koreans were held during the Japanese occupation.
          3. My father-in-law was born in North Korea but came to South Korea during the beginning of the war to avoid conscription by the North Korean Government. He ended up fighting on the side of South Korea with American soldiers.
          4. My grandfather fought in WWII in the Army Air Corp and was the Assistant Weaponeer on the Enola Gay.

           

           

           

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            @davidpdx Thanks for that detailed answer. I have a habit of asking people who actually live in different countries for their perspectives because, well, they’re there and I figure they know better than I about what the reality is where they live.

            The man who told me that was definitely old enough to live through the Japanese occupation and who knows what happened to his family in those years.

            Your father was a weaponeer on the Enola Gay? Wow. That’s intense, as least as intense as my uncle’s experience, who was in the first platoon to reach Dachau.

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              @ohiobarbarian maternal grandfather

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        Thanks for correcting my romanization David. How Hangul is romanized really is a subjective art. I guess how you spell it in English is important.
        독도; 獨島 I have a tendency to translate phonetically, the way it sounds to me.

        The Japanese claim to Dokdo is completely bogus. This is my interpretation of a South Korean professor’s review of the historical basis for Korea’s ancient claim to Dokdo and how the Japanese took Dokdo by deception, force and trickery in the early 20th Century:

        Emblem of Japanese Imperialism- Dokdo

        https://civilizationdiscontents.blogspot.com/2019/09/emblem-of-japanese-imperialism-dokto.html

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    Well, it’s a good thing that North Korea is now on our side because our Bigly President made friends with their Bigly boss.

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