Now confirmed: Kalibr strikes in Lviv

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    • #487283
      jbnw
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      From the Russian Ministry of Defense:

      💥High-precision long-range sea-based Kalibr missiles near Starichi railway station in Lvov Region have destroyed the personnel of Ukrainian reserve formations, as well as shipments of foreign weapons and military equipment from the United States and European countries, prepared for shipment to Donbass

      https://t.me/mod_russia_en/1675

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      NV Wino
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      😳💥

      “As we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore.” Barbara Lee
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      • #487298
        jbnw
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        While the MoD doesn’t provide details, other Telegram sources say it was the largest strike on Lviv during the conflict with eight missile strikes.

        And, of course, there’s no way to confirm, but a local mayor described the situation as dire (depending on translation . . .).

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      soryang
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      This is a dream come true for arms manufacturers. The greater the burn rate, the greater the profits.

      惑世誣民 혹세무민

      • #487310
        jbnw
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        Can’t always be the pharmaceutical companies, you know!

      • #487322
        Yanath
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        The perpetual conflicts and destabilization by the US are all about profit and control, and it is an integral part of US economic organization. Anyone who attempts to keep abreast of human affairs, should be able to see this evil.

        • #487325
          jbnw
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          But it’s a huge part of the US economy with US weapons exports.

        • #487362
          soryang
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          Once I spent considerable time reviewing how military aircraft (fixed wing) were lost in Vietnam; the thought didn’t arise, that some elements of society would be encouraged by the loss or waste that accompanies war. Nominally, the objective is to reduce such losses. Later, I learned the US lost thousands of helicopters in Vietnam, and it changed my perspective somewhat.

          The war industry was usually understood in the context of military Keynesianism, inherited from WWII and then the Korean conflict, when the military industrial infrastructure became permanent. Part of Biden’s perspective is “fighting smart,” that is, rather than fighting a war with your own soldiers, and lose many lives that give rise to popular resentment and political opposition, try to use as few of your own troops as possible. Now this approach has reached its ultimate formulation in Ukraine, after a transition period in the second Iraq war and Afghanistan, where lesser numbers of US troops were placed at risk to avoid political backlash. In Ukraine, rather than “Vietnamizing” a conflict near the end, this is the starting point.

          Fletcher Prouty made the point that there was a major undertaking to Vietnamize the war from the outset, but it failed and required the commitment of massive numbers of US and allied troops. But in theory, tens or hundreds of billions of dollars can be wasted under some national security pretext to earn profit for the few without loss of life in the sponsoring state. In terms of lives lost, the “client” or proxy state bears the loss of life and destruction of its society. The domestic constituency is spared the direct impact of body bags and the visible destruction of their own society making forever war possible.

          惑世誣民 혹세무민

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