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    • #255291
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      "Poverty is the parent of revolution and crime" - Aristotle "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine" - George Bernard Shaw "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK #SurviveAndRevolt

    • #255296
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      Will I listen?  No.  Shame on Obama! Yes.STFU!


    • #255308
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      He is going to do damage to himself if he does that.  I have been reluctant to point out the many ways he betrayed working people because I haven’t wanted to alienate his supporters.  Such an examination of his record is long overdue.

      “I will tell you what I will do and what I will not do. I will not serve that in which I no longer believe, whether it calls itself my home, my fatherland, or my church: and I will try to express myself in some mode of life or art as freely as I can and as wholly as I can, using for my defense
      the only arms I allow myself to use -- silence, exile, and cunning.”
      ― James Joyce, A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man

    • #255310
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      #STFU President Drone

      #President Drone Belongs in Jail

      #President Drone is a War Criminal

      #Fuck Off President Drone

    • #255313
      Ohio Barbarian
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      Look. I know these guys(Wall Street bankers, Jamie Dimon in particular). They’re like baseball players. No one begrudges them their success. Americans celebrate wealth, and they should.–Barack Obama, 2009

      That’s when I made a post on SV saying I wished I had voted for Nader. I was banned, of course.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      If Democrats don’t stand for the people, why should people stand for them?--Jim Hightower

    • #255314
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      Thought of a lot of quips, but frankly, Obama is one of the primary reasons Bernie (and populism, for that matter) is ascendant.

      He had his chance.  Voters spoke.  He gave them more austerity in return.

      No.  Neither I nor many others are going to be paying attention to him or his gold-plated, 4-star, Entertainment Mogul ‘concerns’.

      The opinions and personal views expressed herein are solely those of the author, and should never be taken seriously.

    • #255315
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      Obama needs to accept the fact that the legacy of his presidency is currently sitting, shitting?, in the White House at this moment.

      When the going gets tough, the tough help each other.

    • #255316
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      He is exposing himself for the Neoliberal servant that he is/was. The question is will his fan club ever get that.

      Again, no introspection from Dem leadership on their failures. But vote Blue no matter who! Loyalty only goes one way, listen to your betters. /sarcasm

      In America, “Liberty” means “Free to Die in Service of Capital” - Amfortas the hippie

    • #255319
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      I fully expect his group to leak some sort of crap about how Bernie hates black people and dissed Barry just before Iowa. Watch for it.

    • #255320
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      Will he give a speech when Bernie wins? Will Bernie want him to?

      In America, “Liberty” means “Free to Die in Service of Capital” - Amfortas the hippie

    • #255321
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      Well, even though I have no doubts about this…

      I somehow don’t completely trust it, seeing that it is going to be addressed in @FoxBusiness with Charles Gasparino.

      Either way, it is too vague, and I dislike dealing with hearsay.


    • #255327
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      I think the more distance  Bernie puts between himself and Obama the better.   If the Dems want to win the independent voters in 2020, it would be real helpful if the Obama and Clintons stay far away from the convention.  As @daleanime  said above,   Barry is a lot of the reason Trump  is in the White House.  The rest of the reason is Hillary.


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      Cold Mountain Trail
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      As this ‘news’ came out via Fox, the take of many is that it’s bait, either to get sanders to criticize obama (& alienate obama supporters), or to get the bernie supporters to attack obama, with the same result.

      I think that’s wise counsel.  Don’t attack people until they show their hand.

      if bernie gets the nomination & the win, he’s going to need allies, or at least non-enemies, including obama & his supporters.

      for myself, i’m trying to be done with attacking anyone but trump and the figurative 1%/ptb

      a positive game wins, one that inspires people with “The Open Possible” after years of living in tiny boxes.

      advice clinton didn’t take to heart as she continued her blame game for 3+ years.

      • #255357
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        @coldmountaintrail I agree.

        Even if I dislike Obama, it does not mean I don’t see why people like him.

        Speaking to some I know, what I have been consistently told is that even if they knew he was not really a friend, they still felt as if they had a say.

        That is actually quite powerful, and I don’t like diminishing that.

        Well, um, I also know quite a few who are younger and quite angry at him to the point that they are proud to support Trump.  This is particularly the case since they believe that the Democratic Party has abandoned them.

        Thing is, I can’t really gainsay them much, since I can see why they feel that way.  I can only state that what Trump has done thus far, and it has been disastrous.  Here’s the thing… It takes a long time, with much patience to show exactly how that is.

        When Hillary Clinton ran for President, there was a mass of disillusionment against the Democratic Party who turned a willful blind eye to her corruption.  Which then effectively painted them as just as corrupt.  With that disillusionment comes anger towards the party.

        So, they are lucky that people like me has not completely abandoned the party and went the other side out of disgust.  They are lucky, that there are people who decided to go in to the Democratic Party, to try to still reform them to fight for people rather than corporations and moneyed interests.

        If people were forced to be binary voters, their failure would be far more pronounced.  Unfortunately, they are addicted to the money… so they feign learning the wrong lessons, to make excuses for their ineptitude.

        • #255728
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          What people liked about Obama was his style.That’s always important to the middle class.That’s why they liked JFK.

          And Obama did conduct himself with  dignity,even when the baggers and Trump were screaming to high heaven about that birth certificate crap.

          If he does come out to stop Bernie,he will forfeit that dignity and gentlemanliness for which so many still revere him.

          He’d be wise to say nothing.

      • #255382
        Average Gazoo
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        Agree with CMT — this isn’t from Obama’s camp (yet).

        Be the Change

    • #255331
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      I expect Obama will move to a more prominent role in opposing Sanders. His party is begging him to do so, I’m sure, and he will have to respond. And he probably wants to. He owes his success to the neoliberal wing of the party, and he made generous use of a common neoliberal tactic, talking progressive and walking centrist. Progressives threaten to diminish his legacy, and we know he guards that jealously. His problem may be in aligning himself with Hillary Clinton. It looks like She did us a favor with her anti-Bernie rant because future anti-Bernie rants during the primary season will appear to be sympathetic to Hillary and her bitterness. Obama may go there, but he may tread lightly. We’ll see.

    • #255351
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      He had a huge claim to invoke “Mandate” and couldn’t do shit with it. Even with a brief majority in both legislative branches. His signature legislation was written by the Heritage foundation and implemented by governor Mitt Romney in Massachusetts. His cabinet was a whose who of Wall Street executives. Rahm Emanuel was in his ear constantly. His Attorney General invented the term “Too big to jail”. He was a big proponent of chained CPI. He pushed TPP until the bitter end. A thousand elected Democrats were voted out of power during his tenure. The Occupy movement was brutalized on a federally coordinated, national scale during his watch.

      He flat out sucked. A horrible President.

      "I welcome their hatred" Franklin D Roosevelt

    • #255353
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      Obama coming out against Bernie gives a whole new meaning to the phrase, “The Audacity of Hope”.

    • #255359
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      I am genuinely (a little) curious how Obama explains to himself his problem with Bernie?  Obama campaigned as a progressive on many issues.  Of course, he didn’t turn out that way.

      But is he now against universal healthcare?  Does he deny there is a climate change issue?  Warmongering?  Is it that he supports extreme wealth disparity? Progressive income tax or wealth tax is a bad idea?  Immigration reform?  Or is it just like Hillary “nobody likes him?”

      What the hell is he thinking?

    • #255380
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      I’m sick of these Democrats who hate democracy.


    • #255470
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      Obama campaigned for Bernie in 2006.  I posted the video somewhere, I’ll try to find it again.

      and here it is, in the tweet:

      It would be a good response if there *is* an attack, because it answers with evidence.  O is criticizing the -then- congress & praising bernie & his agenda.

    • #255479
      Ohio Barbarian
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      Not a problem if Obama does try to intervene. Bernie can just compare their respective records. Everything the establishment throws at Bernie can be turned to his advantage. This is another sign we are living in revolutionary times.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      If Democrats don’t stand for the people, why should people stand for them?--Jim Hightower

    • #255515
      Babel 17
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      They’d really rather have Trump win than the anti-Clinton, Bernie.

      If Biden loses to Trump, oh well, most candidates lose to the incumbent, and Bernie Bros. were again a big part of the loss.

      If Bernie wins then the whole corrupt establishment is the reason why we had four years of Trump.

      They refused any responsibility for Iraq, Libya, and Syria, and they refuse responsibility for forcing on us the candidacy of Hillary Clinton, who outspent a carnival two to one, and still lost.

      In Obama’s judgement, she was the most qualified candidate to ever run for office. So much for his judgement, and he hates that he’s on record saying that.

      P.S. I was very suspicious at the time during the 2016 primaries that he called Bernie into the White House for a private chat. I thought then, and I think now, he explained to Bernie how resentful some people would be if he treated Clinton with anything other than kid gloves. And by resentful it was understood that Bernie and his family would be in for epic revenge as soon as he started in with Her.

      Bernie knew that, but Obama wanted him to hear it from him personally, at the White House, after Obama basically ordered Bernie to present himself.

    • #255537
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      Ass-clown is going to ass-clown.

      Enjoy 4 more years of Rump. I so hope I live long enough to see the breakup of the US into 2 nations. One will be one of the best on earth, and the other will be The Handmaid’s Tale 2.0, minus the fake meme of some blacks in power. The United States of Slackjaw.

    • #255547
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      The difference between the Big Zero and Billary is that he is better looking and more personable. Otherwise, no so much.

      “A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves” ~ French philosopher Bertrand de Jouvenel (1903-1987)

    • #255858
      The Red Menace
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      I wonder what kind of brain-mode these people are in.

      “uh oh, i see this other politician is super-popular and surging into the lead, I better tell all the people coming to support him that they’re wrong and stupid!” yeah there’s a successful strategy.

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