Of Course a US President can Murder Somebody Without Legal jeopardy–Ain’t That Great!

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    sonofspy777
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    During his campaign for president, Donald Trump said that he could “stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody” without losing voters.

    Now, in a case before the Second Circuit Court of Appeals (and probably when appealed to the US Supreme Court), the president’s attorney William Consovoy told the three-judge panel that immunity would also temporarily shield Trump from prosecution for that act.

    “This is not a permanent immunity,” Consovoy said, when asked by U.S. Circuit Judge Denny Chin to respond to a police investigation in “the Fifth Avenue example.” Judge Chin pressed Trump’s attorney if he means that, during the president’s tenure, “nothing could be done?”

    Consovoy emphasized. “That is correct.”

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    https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/10/30/of-course-a-us-president-can-murder-somebody-without-legal-jeopardy-aint-that-great/

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    Trump knows that the majority of his base is ignorant, illiterate or semi-literate, superstitious, hate driven, sycophantic, and easily deceived and controlled.

    An evil authoritarian shepherd, leading his unsuspecting, clueless sheep to the slaughterhouse.

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    • #205560

      Cold Mountain Trail
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      similar to truman when he dropped the bomb(s)

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    bazukhov
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     It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.

     Voltaire 

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  • #205557

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    ceding power to one person, the president, actually gives the men (usually) behind the curtains more power.  assuming the men don’t already have enough power to buy off entire legislatures.  so one wonders why the legislature ceded their power.  unless they were for the most part already bought, or cluelessly out of the loop.

  • #205558

    GZeusH
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    Obama did it lots of times with his drones.

    • #205641

      Maedhros
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      @gzeush:  Much, much more that GWB did…

      His body recovered from his torment and became hale,
      but the shadow of his pain was in his heart;
      and he lived to wield his sword with left hand
      more deadly than his right had been.

      • #205762

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        George couldn’t figure out a Segway, much less a drone.

        • #205827

          Maedhros
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          In September of 2011, Obama appointed David Petraeus as Director of the CIA.  This was extraordinary at the time, because the CIA directorship had always traditionally been held by a civilian appointee and Petraeus was the Pentagon’s chief warfighting general.

          At the same time, Obama had also allotted 10,000 drones for use by the CIA.  This, also, was extraordinary at the time because while the CIA often worked together with the military on joint operations, the military always retained control of the weapons and assets.

          In addition, Obama authorized changes in the rules of engagement that allowed for “signature strikes” (i.e. targeting people that looked like they were ‘militants’), the targeting of cell phones alleged to belong to ‘terrorists,’ and “double taps” (i.e. striking a target a second time with the objective of killing any first responders offering aid).

          By giving the CIA a massive drone force, then appointing the chief warfighting general as CIA director, and then removing any real restrictions on targeting, Obama turned the CIA into an international murder-machine with global reach.

          Wake me up when a Democrat – any Democrat – cares one whit about this.

           

          His body recovered from his torment and became hale,
          but the shadow of his pain was in his heart;
          and he lived to wield his sword with left hand
          more deadly than his right had been.

    • #205825

      jbnw
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      @gzeush Including US citizens without due process (link).

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