Operation Warp Speed at a crawl: Adequately vaccinating Americans will take 10 years at current pace

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    • #389502
      Spud Demon
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      11.5 million doses have been delivered to the government. Only 2 million have been administered.

      The Trump administration’s Covid-19 vaccine distribution program needs a major shot in the arm because at the current rate, it would take almost 10 years to inoculate enough Americans to get the pandemic under control, a jarring new NBC News analysis showed Tuesday.

      The goal of Operation Warp Speed, a private-public partnership led by Vice President Mike Pence to produce and deliver safe and effective Covid-19 vaccines to the public, is to ensure that 80 percent of the country’s 330.7 million people get the shots by late June.

      To meet that goal, a little more than 3 million people would have to get the shots each day, the math shows.

      https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/current-rate-it-ll-be-10-years-americans-adequately-vaccinated-n1252486

    • #389508
      retired liberal
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      Can’t be having that, now can we? They need that money to keep their corruption up to snuff.

      We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
      The older we get, the less "Life in Prison" is a deterrent.
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    • #389513
      David the Gnome
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      We won’t make it through ten years of this shit.  It has been a hell of a thing to make it through one.  Ask anyone in L.A., or hell, even my neck of the woods, Aroostook county, now has hundreds of cases.  Damn thing hit a nearby retirement home a few days ago and people are dying already.

      Some times… I wonder if the government/Congress secretly WANTS us to rebel.  If they can’t get their shit together, that is what will happen.  It could even make things worse.

      Fuck.

    • #389526
      GZeusH
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      That’s what I was hoping for from Trump, that he would haul the whole country into bankruptcy court just like he has with a lot of his businesses.  Let me fantasize about how that would work out:

      The first thing the bankruptcy judge would do is put a stay on any military spending.  Appoint the ‘Food not Bombs’ people to be receivers of the Pentagon’s assets and come up with a plan on how to distribute them.  The next most wasteful thing on the list would be the American health care system — just put the Cubans in charge of it.  The National Debt?  Can’t pay it.  Offer all the bond holders (the banks, hedge funds, private equity firms) 3 cents on the dollar to call it even.  What about publicly traded companies?  Well, those shares would be worthless — Bezos’s net worth would be a goose egg.  If he wants some spending money, he can load up an old beater with packages and pizzas and deliver them door-to-door.

      I guess not, we’re just a shithole country no matter which direction the wind is blowing.

      Corporate America consists of totalitarian entities laser-focused on short-term greed.

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      • #389727
        mrdmk
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        Here is the scenario: All the people in government, the one percenters, all police officers, the military, and some medical personnel will get the vaccine. Then suddenly out of the blue, some important ingredient will run out that is only available in South East Asia which we will need to invade and China will sit there and say, “I double dog dare you!” Then we will be shit out of luck and go the herd immunity route like some dumb-ass bovine. It will just be our lot in life.

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    • #389541
      djean111
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      Or is this just now a never-ending gravy train for pharma, like the flu vaccine that is changed every year and was 19% effective last year.  And, evidently, the ONLY thing my Medicare advantage doctor cares about.  I had to sign another waiver this year.  Nope.

      America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

      Everything I post is just my opinion, and, honestly, I would love to be wrong.

    • #389545
      Two way street
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    • #389552
      soryang
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      the US response has been pathetic. It represents the most inexcusable incompetence or something more sinister. I’ve actually read opinions that suggest the US health care community didn’t know that masks work as a matter of scientific fact. I’ve personally heard this from an individual with microbiology credentials. In the US, there was virtually no testing, no contract tracing, no isolation policy, no public health response. And now this.

      • #389871
        Ohio Barbarian
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        There’s no profit in preparing a distribution system for a vaccine; certainly not in advance. Our leaders are so convinced that the private sector does everything better than government that they can’t even conceive of doing what the Vietnamese or Koreans did.

        It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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        • #389878
          soryang
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          @ohiobarbarian Just as there was no profit in having enough masks or PPE manufactured or stored in advance. And just as there is no profit in having enough hospital beds or facilities available in advance. This is called “just in time” distribution. The emergency throughput capacity and the expertise necessary to construct and manage it isn’t there either. It isn’t on time, and after almost a year of knowing this was coming, the government is still hasn’t addressed the problem. Could you imagine this kind of response before, during or after WWII? This is why it appears to be a deliberate policy decision rather than just incompetence. It’s “shock doctrine” bullshit. The economy was in major trouble before this happened. Major changes are on the way. So the public needs to be reeling from this, rather than see an effective response. An effective response would entail reordering the pecking order.

          No private profit is what is implied. And there is no weighing of the public benefits of having an effective public health system, because there is no private profit in that. Ideologically that is all that matters to the interests controlling the government and the nations resources.

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      HassleCat
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      General Gustave Perna is in charge. He is a four star general in charge of the army materiel command. That means he’s in charge of buying and distributing stuff for the army. This should be easy for him, but he’s an army general, meaning he probably has a huge ego and no people skills. For whatever reason, he is failing big time.

      The COVID-19 vaccine rollout is a mess. Blame the U.S. health-care system. l Analysis (inquirer.com)

    • #389864
      peacecorps
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      it is not worth talking, or even tweeting, about.

      “Operation Warp Speed” is an marketing slogan only. It does not have to actually accomplish anything significant to boost the stock market. Get your priorities straight. 🙂

      The Big Lie: "Make the lie big, Make it simple, Keep saying it, And eventually they will believe it." AH.

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      National issues (slavery/racism, income inequality, pandemics and pathetic health care, weak unions) are not solved with more states' rights. Global problems (climate change, migration, trade, war, pandemics) are not solved with more nationalism.

    • #389869
      Bernie Boomer
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      Guardian news said the UK government is mooting the idea of delaying the second jab for folks who have had the first – up to 12 weeks.
      No evidence of what kind of immunity a single dose provides after three weeks, since the trials were based on a two-dose regimen – but somebody apparently feels that twice as many ‘sort of immunized’ people are a better optic.

      I suspect we will see a similar suggestion here very soon.

      https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/dec/31/covid-vaccine-uk-doctors-criticise-rescheduling-of-second-doses

    • #390427
      Fasttense
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      That way they don’t have to blame their own politics.

      Yes, some doctors and nurses, especially the ones I know here in the South, are Trump loving fools. They get you to pray when you are sick and buy into all the Q conspiracies.

      But many doctors and nurses are the ones on the front lines and didn’t know how broken a for profit healthcare system can screw up everything.

      Let’s face it. Capitalism is what is killing us. If not for capitalism our government would be paying us to stay home. They would be ensuring emergency supplies and vaccines are fairly distributed and available. We would be more like New Zealand instead of like Belgium.

      It’s the filthy rich who control our government who are making this pandemic so much worse.

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