Pelosi: Trump wants ‘a distraction,’ not a wall

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    • #10666
      Ohio Barbarian
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      The Hill:

      House Speaker Nancy Pelos (D-Calif.) said Thursday that President Trump’s border wall campaign has nothing to do with border security, but is instead designed to energize his conservative base and distract the country from the various scandals dogging his administration.

      “I don’t even know if the president wants the wall. I think he just wants a debate on the wall. And he’s having some difficulty with it,” Pelosi said during a press briefing at the Capitol.

      She also accused Trump of preventing a border deal by shifting his demands over the course of the weeks-long negotiations.

      “He keeps increasing the amount of money; increasing the amount of beds; increasing the obstacles to finding a solution — because I don’t think he really wants a solution,” Pelosi said. “I think he loves the distraction that this is from his other problems.”

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    • #10669
      Ohio Barbarian
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      Heck. Even Cheney was right a couple of times, so it should come as no surprise that Pelosi will be right every once in awhile. I just hope she does not flinch on this one.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

      • #11146
        salemcourt
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        It seems to be working.  I heard that there were a lot of protests against the border wall around the country which are being widely reported.  No such protest asking for medicare for all or free tuition (maybe there are and it is not getting coverage.)

    • #10677
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      Were the crisis to end and the government restarted, then the distraction would end. Trump undoubtedly would find some new crisis, but in the mean time people could see just how stupid and useless his ‘wall’ is. Especially if congress were to spotlight it every so often. But no, we get the crisis that goes on and on, and all for a rounding error on the Fed budget.

    • #10688
      Satan
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      The moat can be filled with venomous jellyfish, so Pelosi can keep her relatives employed.

      "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable". - John F. Kennedy

    • #10699
      doh1304
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      that the Democrats want to flood America with illegal immigrants so that they can win elections. This is ridiculous. Both the Democrats and the Republicans want to flood America with immigrants so that they can be used to deflate American wages and inflate racism, weakening the social fabric. Trump is riling his base – the hate filled, racist part of his base, abandoning his legitimate populist “base”. (like Nancy, following Hillary, who artlessly tried to follow Obama, by laughing in the faces of his populist “base”)

      Trump is attacking the very concept of truth, by filling America with lie after lie after conflicting lie. The truth is buried under a mountain of rubble and dies of suffocation, but the Democrats are destroying the very definition of morality, by only using it as a weapon, a tool for a cynical, immoral political agenda. Take your pick which is worse, I chose the corruptocrats. A traitor is worse than an enemy, but it’s just sophistry when you’re surrounded by both.

    • #10712
      jwirr
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      If we went after those who hire them they would stop coming. But no we cannot do that to our greedy US citizens.

      jwirr

      • #10719
        Vanflower
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        We have laws against employing illegals enforce them.  We have asylum laws and courts, if they do not meet the standard deport them.

        However, how does this work in the so called “sanctuary” cities and states?

        • #10793
          Ohio Barbarian
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          is just one more contradiction in our capitalist system.

          It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

          Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

        • #11065
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          E-Verify has been one way to check the legal status of job applicants.

          A 2015 study found that E-Verify reduced the average earnings of undocumented immigrants, improved labor market outcomes for male Mexican immigrants and U.S.-born Hispanic men, and had no impact on U.S.-born non-Hispanic whites.<sup id=”cite_ref-Orrenius2015_4-1″ class=”reference”>[4]</sup> A 2016 study found that E-Verify “reduces the number of less-educated prime-age immigrants from Mexico and Central America—immigrants who are likely to be unauthorized—living in a state. We find evidence that some new migrants are diverted to other states, but also suggestive evidence that some already-present migrants leave the country entirely.

          Government shutdown: Employers confused by loss of background check
          <p class=”p”>The partial government shutdown has cut off U.S. employers from a federal system designed to help them avoid hiring immigrants not allowed to work in the nation.</p>
          And that’s causing confusion for some employers in Georgia and around the nation.

          Georgia law requires most employers in the state to check new hires using E-Verify, the U.S. government’s electronic verification system, according to Ian Macdonald, an Atlanta attorney who chairs law firm Greenberg Traurig’s immigration group.

          But employers are running into a wall when they try to use the system. This note has been posted on E-Verify’s site: “Due to the lapse in federal funding, this website will not be actively managed …. E- Verify and E-Verify services are unavailable.”

          https://www.ajc.com/news/state–regional/government-shutdown-employers-confused-loss-background-check/RyAqLSPInaCKzoQYebDUoI/

          The Big Lie: "Make the lie big, Make it simple, Keep saying it, And eventually they will believe it." AH.

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          National issues (slavery/racism, income inequality, pandemics and pathetic health care, weak unions) are not solved with more states' rights. Global problems (climate change, migration, trade, war, pandemics) are not solved with more nationalism.

    • #10725
      RealityRedux
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      I just hope she does not flinch on this one.

      I agree about Pelosi. However, if Trump anoints himself National Emergency Chief, I think that Pelosi will buckle. A Government shutdown bothers him not …… Pelosi and gang bigtime. This is what happens when allowing a self centered spoiled filthy rich bastard run a country beyond his ‘time’s up’ hearing.

      Oh, his newest distraction – withholding fire relief funds from our West Coast’s states. How long before our new House drops a net over his sorry ass?

       

       

       

       

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      • #10790
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        national emergency, the House of Representatives will sue in federal court to declare the move unconstitutional, and win. The Supreme Court won’t back up Trump on this one, either. Roberts won’t back him, and Alito may not, either. Have no idea about Thomas, Gorsuch, or Kavanaugh will go, but that is only three.

        It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

        Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #11076
      Land of Enchantment
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      Well, everything he does is a distraction. She’s got that right but it’s obvious to anyone who is paying attention. The protests are beginning, furloughed government employees are organizing and taking to the streets–and there are several planned in Kentucky. Pressure must come to bear on McConnell to bring the bills up for a vote and that right soon. Talk about abuse of power, if there are any semi-reasonable Republicans in Kentucky they need to start making some noise to primary him–McConnell is up for rejection in 2020 I believe…

      “Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart.” ~ Emily Dickinson

      • #11168
        RealityRedux
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        national emergency, the House of Representatives will sue in federal court to declare the move unconstitutional, and win. The Supreme Court won’t back up Trump on this one, either.

        True about (courts) not backing him up BUT wouldn’t the amount of time that would elapse before the case reaches them up to approximately 2 years?

        I’m worried for how long (1-2 mths) Mueller’s report will take before the House moves to impeach him as unraveled Trump is becoming daily.

        Formally RealityCheck

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