Poroshenko again says the Minsk accords were only to prepare Ukraine for war

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      jbnw
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      Kiev Joined Minsk Peace Process Only to Build Up Army With NATO’s Help, Poroshenko Tells Pranksters

      The former Ukrainian president is directly responsible for the over eight-year-old conflict in Donbass, backtracking on his election pledge to stem growing violence in the country’s east in the spring of 2014, and instead ramping up the war.

      https://sputniknews.com/20221117/kiev-joined-minsk-peace-process-only-to-build-up-army-with-natos-help-poroshenko-tells-pranksters-1104344599.html
      The Minsk Peace Accords were just a ploy for time, designed to give Ukraine’s Army a breather and allow it to be built up with NATO assistance following a series of defeats against the Donbass militias, former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has revealed.

      “I needed these Minsk Accords to get at least four years to form the Ukrainian Armed Forces, build up the Ukrainian economy and train the Ukrainian military together with NATO to create the best armed forces in Eastern Europe, created according to NATO standards,” Poroshenko told infamous Russian pranksters Vladimir “Vovan” Kuznetsov and Alexei “Lexus” Stolyarov.
      Poroshenko told the pranksters, who posed as former US Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, that Kiev doesn’t have the resources to win the present conflict against Russia, and suggested that the key to victory lies in Washington, not Kiev.

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      djean111
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      That’s what a cease fire would be right now, too.

      It sort of looks like the money and weapons for all of that preparation was disappeared into some pockets, though.

      America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

      "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

      A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

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      Joe Shlabotnik
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      The Russians are going to have to remove the Ukrainian government entirely.

      ~ All good things are Wild and Free ~

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      A Simple Game
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      “I needed these Minsk Accords to get at least four years to form the Ukrainian Armed Forces, build up the Ukrainian economy and train the Ukrainian military together with NATO to create the best armed forces in Eastern Europe, created according to NATO standards,”

      I thought all along that this war was intended to be Hillary’s War.  Trump did at least one good thing by robbing her of this, but sadly he only postponed it.

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        djean111
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        And it looks like Biden is determined to grab that from Her, like the presidency.  IMO, Biden and Zelensky are both ridddled with seething ambition, and resentment, and are happily being used by the West to advance the West’s supremacy and profits.  Zelensky might want to reflect on how the West prefers to demonize a person or a leader, not a country and its people, or a movement,  when they become difficult to control.  Or just have another few sniffs and pose for Vanity Fair (most aptly named publication ever).

        America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

        "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

        A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

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