President Zelensky announces special status to Poles in Ukraine

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    • #488078
      jbnw
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      Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is planning to submit a draft bill to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine on the status and assistance to Polish citizens in Ukraine, which is similar to the one, which has recently been endorsed by the Sejm of the Republic of Poland in relation to Ukrainians.
      The relevant statement was made by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky during his speech in the Ukrainian parliament in the presence of Polish President Andrzej Duda.

      The full text of the speech was posted by Deputy Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine Andrij Sybiha on Facebook, an Ukrinform correspondent reports.

      “I particularly thank the Sejm of the Republic of Poland for the law on assistance to Ukrainian citizens, which has been adopted recently. This is an unprecedented decision, according to which our citizens, who have been forced to flee to Poland due to the Russian aggression, will be granted almost the same rights and opportunities as Polish citizens. Legal residence, employment, education, health care and social benefits. It is a great step and a gesture of the great soul, which only a good friend of Ukraine could have made. This step will not remain unilateral. In the near future, I will submit a similar – mirror – draft bill to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine,” Zelensky told.

      https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3489364-president-zelensky-announces-special-status-to-poles-in-ukraine.html

      Special rights of Polish people in Ukraine

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      1) may hold elective positions
      2) be appointed to state authorities, to senior positions of defense enterprises
      3) get access to secret data
      4) be judges
      5) the Polish police will have the right to monitor law and order in Ukraine

      https://t.me/azmilitary11/4979

    • #488080
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      Polish President Duda in the Verkhovna Rada:

      “I am deeply convinced that it is time to conclude a new treaty on good neighborliness, which will take into account what we have built in our relations, at least in recent months.
      The current situation in Ukraine has shown that the network of roads, railways and other types of transport links between Ukraine and Poland are not working well enough. The Polish-Ukrainian border should unite,not divide.”

      https://t.me/azmilitary11/4964

      The entry of the Polish Army into Ukraine is not far off🤔

      Zelensky announced an agreement reached with the Polish leadership to simplify the border crossing between the countries🧐

      https://t.me/azmilitary11/4965

    • #488082
      GZeusH
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      Are you sure that Stepan Bandera would approve?  Or his followers?

      Hitler 1944: Kiev is to be held to the last man.
      Biden 2022: Kiev is to be held to the last Ukrainian.

      • #488097
        jbnw
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        I think Bandera would applaud.

        But I won’t confuse the government of Poland with Poland and the Polish people.  In many ways, my family is enjoying their enforced time there.  They find it a lovely country with a warm spring now, and much of the architecture reminds them of Odessa.

    • #488087
      Utopian Leftist
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      What could possibly go wrong in this scenario?

      The entry of the Polish Army into Ukraine is not far off

      I mean, it’s not like Ukraine is a veritable POWDER KEG, just waiting to EXPLODE or anything. Not like NATO’s very presence is intimidating to Russia. Why not parade a NATO country in there, to police a sovereign nation that is being invaded by Russia? That’ll send them Ruskies a-runnin’ back home. (/sarcasm)

      Seriously, is that how we are expected to think? Because I think this makes even less sense than putting hazardous biolabs there!

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    • #488185
      Ohio Barbarian
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      Back in the day, Polish magnates treated their Ukrainian serfs like cattle, according to historians of all political stripes. The Austrians and Hungarians were a relief.

      Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

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      • #488356
        Babel 17
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        https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056556

        In the 16th-century Ukraine, the Polish overlords and Ukrainian cossacks fight for control of the land but frequent Turkish invasions force them to unite against the common Turkish foe.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taras_Bulba_(1962_film)

        Taras Bulba is a 1962 American Color by Deluxe in Eastmancolor adventure film loosely based on Nikolai Gogol’s novel Taras Bulba, starring Tony Curtis and Yul Brynner. The film was directed by J. Lee Thompson. The story line of the film is considerably different from that of Gogol’s novel, although it is closer to his expanded 1842 (pro-Russian Imperial) edition than his original (pro-Ukrainian) version of 1835.

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        • #488369
          Ohio Barbarian
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          Thanks! I’ll look for it. Tony Curtis two years after Spartacus.

          Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

          The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.--Julius Nyerere

    • #488196
      Dunatus
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      …turning back the clock 100 years or so, now the Poles want to turn it back 300+?

      • #488198
        jbnw
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        that will put it into law in Ukraine –

        • #488214
          Dunatus
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          …but the legislation passed in Poland should be just as suspect as comparable legislation in Russia. Somehow the selective outrage in the M$M missed this one…

          • #488216
            jbnw
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            And the legislation in Poland for Ukrainians was much simpler – it allowed Ukrainians to enter Poland, reside, and work, and assistance such as the ability to use public transportation at no cost (though I have just heard that will go away on June 1). It was really good support for Ukrainian refugees, and immensely appreciated.

            They certainly can’t vote or hold office, as Zelensky is proposing for Polish citizens in Ukraine.

            • #488340
              Dunatus
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              I was drawing parallels between the Russia/Donbass/Crimea political interactions and Poland/Ukraine political interactions and the selective outrage in Western media. As in Crimea having a referendum and the Donbass petitioning the Russians for aid that was roundly criticized in the West while Poland granting limited ‘citizenship’ for Ukrainians and Kiev passing legislation to give it’s territorial sovereignty over to the Poles with nary a peep

              • #488343
                jbnw
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                Properly, the Kyiv government should be called the separatists or revolutionaries, as it took a the Euromaidan to overthrow the elected government, and Donbass are government supporters.

                Crimea was an elected government supporter until the revolution, then voted by a huge majority voted to return to Russia.

                But it’s all as the saying goes – one man’s revolutionary is another man’s freedom fighter.

                And, frankly, it’s all so silly. Ten years ago they were all just Ukrainians – didn’t matter what language you spoke. Like Canada, with French and English as native languages.

    • #488339
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    • #488355
      Babel 17
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      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Czechoslovak_Republic

      But anyway, pragmatically Zelenskyy might be thinking he really needs a cadre of troops to come in and guarantee the sanctity of his government in Kyiv. Along with Polish administrators, they would be relatively immune to being coopted into a government to replace the existing one. Their legitimacy would derive from Zelenskky, and as non-Ukrainians they themself couldn’t replace him.

       

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