robo calls must be stopped

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are spam calls a menace to society?

are these robo calls really "free speech?" or do they interfere with my free speech by wasting my time and attention?

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  • #1 no, salesmen have a right to expose their products to the widest audience. that was the original intent of the founders.
  • #2 no, because spamming is free speech
  • no, because i can just not answer any calls. i will only miss a few family emergencies.
  • no, the constitution says nothing about telephones
  • yes, i pay for that telephone and these jerks need to stop holding it hostage.
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    • #77456
      rampart
      Participant

      I can not walk into their call center with automatic weapons because, among other things, I don’t think the old pontiac will make it over the Himalayas. but the thought has crossed my mind.

      our government is sweeping up all of this “metadata” on every call, why can’t someone find out where the irs scam calls are coming from and send in a seal team to stop them?

      one idea that I like is to add a small charge, maybe a penny, to each outgoing call. these charges could be deducted from the monthly bill so that only people making over several thousand calls per month would pay anything. I don’t make a thousand calls per month, but maybe a phone bill in the hundreds of dollars might encourage the robocallers to be more selective.

       

      “I’m for the poor man — all poor men, black and white, they all gotta have a chance. They gotta have a home, a job, and a decent education for their children. ‘Every man a king’ — that’s my slogan.” — Huey Long

    • #77462
      incognito
      Participant

      If I don’t know the number, I don’t answer the phone. Then I immediately block those numbers so they can’t ever call me again.

      • #77497
        artytexas
        Participant

        That’ll only get you so far though. I can’t stand to be in the same room with my phone anymore. I can barely do any other thing with the wretched device because it is always ringing…. and the calls NEVER have anything to do with me or anything I care about. It is infuriating.

        • #77524
          incognito
          Participant

          Good grief. That would suck! I have maybe 10 numbers blocked, so most of my calls are from family or people I know. If I had to deal with what you deal with, I would get a landline with auto call block on it. What you deal with is nothing short of harassment.

          I don’t use a carrier like Verizon, T-Mobile, AT&T or Sprint. I use TextNow.  I wonder if that has anything to do with my minimal telemarketing calls? I have a Karma MiFi and use my home network when I’m home and use my Karma when I’m out. I’ve done this for the last 4 years. Carriers probably sell your number.

          • #77652
            artytexas
            Participant

            Harassment…. that’s exactly what it is. It isn’t every day, but enough days to make me crazy…..highly agitated and over reactive when I hear the phone start to buzz. I can’t just turn it off because I have clients that call and life to deal with. I have had the same number for a long time and even though I try to limit who has it, it’s been sold and is on lists now. Sigh. It was one thing when I was being chased by bill collectors, but this mass marketing (and fraud) via robo-calling is just too relentless, too intrusive, too everything.

      • #77516
        ThouArtThat
        Participant

        @incognito

        Hi incognito,

        Yep – same here – presently have over 300 numbers on ignore.  Works like a charm – though still a Pain the A**.

        TAT

        Grief requires us to know the time we're in. The great enemy of grief is hope. Hope is the four-letter word for people who are unwilling to know things for what they are.

        Our time requires us to be hope-free. To burn through the false choice of being hopeful and hopeless. They are two sides of the same con job. Grief is required to proceed.

        - Stephen Jenkinson

        Sooner or later we all sit down to a banquet of consequences.

        - Robert Louis Stevenson

    • #77470
      PADemD
      Participant

      How one man turns annoying cold calls into cash

      In November 2011 Lee Beaumont paid £10 plus VAT to set up his personal 0871 line – so to call him now costs 10p, from which he receives 7p.

      The Leeds businessman told BBC Radio 4’s You and Yours programme that the line had so far made £300.

      Phone Pay Plus, which regulates premium numbers, said it strongly discouraged people from adopting the idea.

      Mr Beaumont came up with the plan when he grew sick of calls offering to help him reclaim payment protection insurance (PPI), or install solar panels.

      https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-23869462

    • #77500
      jwirr
      Participant

      I keep getting this same call about my expired car insurance. I have not owned a car for 20 years or more. I am 77 years old and they may not know it but they really hurt the elderly who cannot get around easily. They should definitely be stopped. The telephone is not only my property but it is connected to my home. They can get off my yard.

      jwirr

    • #77532
      NV Wino
      Moderator

      My phone is through Comcast, which makes NoMoRobo available. I get very few robo calls. AT& fucking T, on the other hand says, “Oh sorry, NoMoRobo isn’t available for our landline service.” Fuck ’em.

      “As we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore.” Barbara Lee
      “Politicians and pro athletes: The only people who still get paid when they lose.” William Rivers Pitt

    • #77536
      ravensong
      Participant

      Robocalls should be a misdemeanor, and any individual convicted of making an unsolicited robocall should be hit with a mandatory $1000 fine payable to the victim, and pay mandatory double court costs for their prosecution.

      Any corporation employing an individual or individuals to make unsolicited robocalls should be hit with a mandatory $100,000 fine per offense, double court costs, and have their business license suspended for at least one year.

      Third convictions should be a felony, carrying fines and a mandatory one year prison sentence.

      Robocalls are not only a nuisance and an invasion of privacy, they also cause harm by causing victims unnecessary stress, and robocalls can cause someone to miss a critical communication, financial loss, and even accidents that result in injury or death.

      Just doing your job is no justification for disturbing someone’s peace and violating their right to privacy.

      “A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good, just because it's accepted by a majority.” ~ Booker T. Washington

      The truth is, there’s no such thing as being “anti-Fascist.” Either you are a decent human being with a conscience, or you are a fascist.
      ~ Unknown

    • #77538
      joentokyo
      Participant

      My telephone has a built-in answer machine. I just screen all calls by letting the answer machine pick up. People who know me also know I do this, so they always just say hello this is so and so, and then I pickup. Robo callers hang up and eventually they figure out they are wasting their time and money and stop calling my number.

      “A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves” ~ French philosopher Bertrand de Jouvenel (1903-1987)

      • #77541
        Ohio Barbarian
        Moderator

        That’s very old-school, but still effective. I can’t knock old-school; I still use a stovetop percolator of 19th Century design. It makes great coffee, too.

        It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

        If Democrats don’t stand for the people, why should people stand for them?--Jim Hightower

    • #77542
      Ohio Barbarian
      Moderator

      The first thing we do is kill all of the telemarketers. The lawyers can wait a week or two.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      If Democrats don’t stand for the people, why should people stand for them?--Jim Hightower

    • #77665
      doh1304
      Participant

      There was a news report a few months ago where a telemarketer was fined $10,000 for violating the do not call list. The FCC has a complaint line.

      https://complaints.donotcall.gov/complaint/complaintcheck.aspx

      • #77747
        incognito
        Participant

        The Do Not Call list is useless and ignored by Telemarketers. When I was a Caregiver for a 79 year old Alzheimer’s lady, she was harassed DAILY by those vultures. I put her phone number on the Do Not Call list and they still called everyday. I called Comcast to complain and was told there was nothing they could do.

        She would get so upset because the calls were always about her being late paying her credit card bill. She didn’t have access to credit cards because her kids cancelled all of them. One day they called and she was on the phone very upset she was late on her CC payment, so I took the phone from her and told them never to call that number again because they were harassing a 79 year old lady who has Alzheimer’s and to knock it off! They never, ever stopped calling her. They are pure evil. There was absolutely no recourse and they fucking knew it.

    • #77786
      rampart
      Participant

      talking to them, I am told, merely confirms your existance and invites more calls.

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