Russian web trolls boo Biden, often boost Gabbard, report finds

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    JonLP
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    WASHINGTON — Among Democrats running for president, Tulsi Gabbard is popular with Russian propagandists, while Joe Biden draws the most criticism, according to a new analysis.

    Mentions of Gabbard, a Hawaii congresswoman, by English-language Russian propaganda outlets were 46 percent favorable and 44 percent unfavorable, a research team from the Foreign Policy Research Institute found after analyzing more than 1,700 news stories put out by Sputnik and RT. She was the only Democratic candidate with more favorable than unfavorable mentions.

    References to Biden, by contrast, were 3 percent favorable and 53 percent unfavorable. The rest were neutral.

    For Russia thus far, Biden is to 2020 what Hilary Clinton was to 2016, the researchers found.

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    “When I watched Russian state-sponsored content and social media trolling headed into election 2016, it was overwhelmingly negative toward Hillary Clinton. The same could be said today of former Vice President Biden,” said Clint Watts, a former FBI agent and NBC News contributor who led the effort.

     

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    Gabbard spokesman Mark Bergman responded in a statement to NBC News: “The warmongering foreign policy establishment in the media has been using this same smear since the day Congresswoman Gabbard announced her candidacy. This is nothing new. As the first female combat veteran ever to run for the presidency, the American people know that Tulsi has always and will always fight for the interests of the American people.”

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/russian-web-trolls-boo-biden-often-boost-gabbard-report-finds-n1085216

    I love Tulsi’s response. I don’t buy it there are real reasons why someone may not like Hillary Clinton or Biden. Also there are real reasons why the antiwar left would support Tulsi.

     

     

    Tulsi Gabbard - "Not only are they saying that about me, they are basically sending this message out to every veteran in this country, every service member, every American, anyone watching at home fighting for peace and who was calling for an end to these regime change wars ... they are saying that you are also a Russian asset, that you are also a traitor to this country,"

  • #227458

    BirdSong
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    The US media has a strong bias for the war-mongering sociopaths and some foreign media may prefer a candidate that supports peace. The US media outright lies about world events and Tulsi. That’s what we should be concerned about.

    Thank goodness Americans have available media that wants to make this world a better place. Screw the xenophobes.

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    Gee, you mean other countries don’t want continuous war? I’m shocked, I tell you, just shocked.

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      I wish I could recommend individual posts

       

  • #227487

    Voltairine
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    “When I watched RT…

    …I saw progressive, authentic journalists who had been kicked and blocked out of Neocon Media and had no other platform to continue authentic journalism. When I see mention of “former FBI agent and NBC News contributor” i know it is professional Neocon warmonger propagandist.

    Aloha!

  • #227490

    djean111
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    I boo Biden too.  And I would never have voted  for Hillary.  Demented war and gleeful austerity.  FFS.  It’s a universal thing, you dipwads.

    They sure are determined to keep the Russia crap going.  Perhaps their go-to excuse.  Or cover-up.  Surely they are not stupid or delusional enough to think that is a vote-getter.

    I will not vote for a Vichy Dem. Period. As always, I decide who is a Vichy Dem.

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    • #227492

      ArtfromArk
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      Unfortunately, there are people I highly respect who swallow the Russia B-effin-S, and yeah, I think the DNC thinks this is a vote-getter.

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      Actually,they do think this will get them votes.Remember,the Democratic Party now targets people old enough to remember the Cold War and prosperous enough to fear Marxism,so it was all too easy to fill their brains up with that baloney.

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    Ohio Barbarian
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    Oh, FFS! Here they go again with Russia! The Russians are interfering in our elections! They don’t like Joe Biden! Horrors! Our democracy is under attack! We need more censorship!

    This is only one step from labeling anyone who doesn’t support Joe Biden and the Democratic establishment Russian bots or useful idiots, and that’s already being done in some places. Hillary Clinton already tried that line on Tulsi Gabbard, and it blew up in her botoxed face. It seems she and other neoliberal toads haven’t learned.

    Grow up, America! Other nations’ governments and other nations’ citizens are going to advocate for different presidential candidates who they think are good for their own interests. That’s globalization, baby. It cuts both ways. Besides, after all we have done to interfere in other countries’ elections–Bolivia is the most glaring recent example–we have no right to complain when they comment on our own on the fucking internet.

    Jesus H. Christ on a Harley. Now I need Irish coffee.

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      Jimmy Dore and Aaron Mate commented on this, noting that “Russian bots” etc. has already come a joke meme, and continues to become more so.

      Anyone throwing that line without irony is making a joke of himself, is a joke.

      Aloha!

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      I also would like an Irish coffee.  Unfortunately had to go to work!

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    Average Gazoo
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    YouTube and FaceBook are rolling out new censorship programs in January, 2020. This stuff sets the stage.

    Be the Change

    • #227512

      Ohio Barbarian
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      @averagegazoo Look at the timing of our two previous posts. Great minds, etc.

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    Robot X
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    Cheap smears from a pro war propaganda network.

  • #227521

    MizzGrizz
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    More baloney that the congenitally gullible will automatically believe.

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    Mr. Mickeys Mom
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    DNC web trolls boost Biden, often boo Gabbard

     

    There, I fixed it for you.

    • #227547

      Voltairine
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      Looks better. Truth is beautiful.

      Aloha!

  • #227550

    Hobbit709
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    The neoliberals see more Russians in everything than Pat Robertson sees the actions of Satan in everything.

    I don't waste my time teaching pigs to sing.

    • #227695

      Satan
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      Tell me about it! I only wish I had the time to do half the shit Pat blames on me!

      I didn't refuse to vote for Hillary Clinton because any goddamned Russian told me to. I refused to vote for her because she is a warmongering, election stealing, Goldman Sachs fellating, Republican WHORE. No offense to sex workers.

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    Yeah. The Russians love peace and democracy. That’s why Gabbard gets favorable mention. C’mon folks. The Russian oligarchy is very much like our own oligarchy. Or maybe we have a kleptocracy. Either way, the Russians see the benefit in undermining our institutions, including the electoral system we hold up to the world as a model. They might favor Trump over Biden, and they might attempt to meddle on Trump’s behalf, just as Hillary Clinton says. But the charges and counter charges about which candidate is receiving Russian help is diverting attention from some more serious problems. Our electoral system is vulnerable at least to propaganda, if not to actual hacking. Our media are lazy and stupid, churning out infotainment and cheap patriotism. Our two major political parties sell us out in exchange for a few million dollars in legalized bribery.  The Russians would be foolish not to exploit these weaknesses. Their empire competes with our empire, and meddling in our elections could help them expand their influence and promote their interests over ours. Of course they do it. If Tulsi Gabbard became the frontrunner, Russian bots would gang up on her. Of course they seek to help Trump, not because Trump is Putin’s buddy, but because Trump weakens the US and creates opportunities for Russia.

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      Voltairine
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      undermining our institutions, including the electoral system we hold up to the world as a model.

       

      Lol. This was irony… I hope?

      Russian oligarchy is not like Western oligarchy, as Putin subjugated the Jeltsin era oligarchy and Russia became autarchy.

      PS: watching and parroting Neocon media is not good for anyone.

      Aloha!

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  • #227563

    chknltl
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    Well ifso: spasibo*

     

    *(IIRC, that is Russian for thank you).

  • #227564

    ravensong
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    Wow! The plutarch bankster establishment is desperate and running scared.

    This is a really good sign, it means they see Bernie/Tulsi 2020 as a very significant threat to the neoliberal Third Way New Democrat stranglehold on the Democratic party, and they see that Bernie/Tulsi 2020 has the best chance to defeat Biden in the primary and Trump in the GE.

    Smearing Tulsi to promote Biden is just as despicable and sickening as any despicable and sickening dishonorable thing that Trump has done.  These greedy freaks have no shame or integrity whatsoever.

    Where is the vomit emoji when you need one?

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  • #227570

    Mick063
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    Once again, lending credibility to Clinton apologist rationalities.

    Give me a quantifiable measure of Russian troll power. A specific unit of measure with specific magnitude

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    His body recovered from his torment and became hale,
    but the shadow of his pain was in his heart;
    and he lived to wield his sword with left hand
    more deadly than his right had been.

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      Fantastic sig line. A couple of days ago I was following links, and ended up here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fafhrd_and_the_Gray_Mouser#Weapons_of_Fafhrd_and_the_Gray_Mouser

      Any connection to that character?

      https://www.tulsi2020.com/

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        Maedhros
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        The quote is from Tolkien’s The Silmarillion.  It speaks of Maedhros, eldest son of Feanor, who was captured by Morgoth and chained by the wrist to the walls of Thangorodrim for several years until his cousin freed him by cutting off his right hand.

        His body recovered from his torment and became hale,
        but the shadow of his pain was in his heart;
        and he lived to wield his sword with left hand
        more deadly than his right had been.

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          Babel 17
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          Thanks for that.

          https://www.tulsi2020.com/

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    Babel 17
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    Breaking News: Just in, Democratic candidates not wanting to nuke Russia gain in popularity there. Their opponents surrogates speculate off the record to the media that they might be in the pocket of Big Peace. “Follow the lack of money!” they plead with reporters.

    https://www.tulsi2020.com/

  • #227642

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    Any decent person boos Biden.  Are they claiming Russian web trolls are decent people?  I don’t understand.

    PowerToThePeople!  Bernie or Bust 2020!

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