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  • bpilgrim (386 posts)
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    RW Media Attacking Vegas Gun Nut’s Girlfriend!

    who each and every one of them miss the huge irony of their main charge; her not recognizing the obvious signs of a gun nuts obsession with his guns, in the land of gun nuts, and the fearful… they’re EVERYWHERE, hello!

    And some of these whackos are now popping up on M$M occasionally, too 🤦‍♂️

    the ATF’s phones would be ringing non-stop for decades, if every American started reporting their family members, friends, and acquaintances who are armed to the rafters, and storage lockers with their fear and loathing!

     

    And they all think they’re so clever with this ‘observation’, while desperately trying to tie him to Bernie, and her to ISIS (there’re terrorists in the PI, don’t ya know) all the while demanding that anyone who wants to talk about gun control now is politicizing this horrific nightmare.

     

    WTF!?

     

    what are the odds that some honest reporter in the M$M will raise this obvious crazy talk from the RW?

     

    But I say we take the RW media up on their self-serving bloviating, catapulting of their FUD propaganda… and promote the idea of reporting these folks (they’re everywhere) to the authorities, under their RWNJ brand; republican and/or NRA, until our leadership take on their responsibilities to keep us safe by having real discussions, debates, and actual legislation to do something about this clear and present danger (Gun nuts) to all our lives!

    (To mods: I heard this RWNJ; http://www.wrko.com/shows/kuhner-report, spewing this nonsense today on this RWNJs hate radio “programming”; http://www.wrko.comBTW: I will report others I hear on more M$M as I hear them here – I encourage others to post here as they hear them… I believe Sean Insanity, and Tucker Carlson on Faux were pretty out there last night, too)

    it is incredible how twisted they become whenever a white terrorist acts in our country (over and over again)… and why won’t they call this what it is; an act of domestic terrorism (rhetorical question; as we all know how deep and wide the swamp in DC is).

    peace

     

     

    Pastiche, Silver Witch, Two way street and 10 othersEnthusiast, B Calm, twenty, daleanime, Xyzse, PuffGranny, ronRonnie, Marym625, h-32, NV Wino like this

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    • Marym625 (27308 posts)
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      1. I'm putting this on The Daily Radical

      I’ve not seen this. I’m sure you’re correct. They do it all the time. Every time there’s an attack, they try to change the conversation away from guns.

      To whom do you suggest we report them?

      I believe they’re not calling it “terrorism” because they don’t yet know the reason. However, in my opinion, it’s terrorism and it’s about guns

      Take Action #StopFCC https://www.battleforthenet.com/breaktheinternet/ "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
      • bpilgrim (386 posts)
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        2. Jeffrey T. Kuhner is the one that I heard on my commute this afternoon (LINK)

        What a perfect image for this tool… that he has posted above the fold on his home page. SMH

        http://www.wrko.com/shows/kuhner-report

         

         

        • Marym625 (27308 posts)
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          21. Him. Yes, he's a tool.

          Take Action #StopFCC https://www.battleforthenet.com/breaktheinternet/ "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
      • bpilgrim (386 posts)
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        3. A CNN Host, at this time, just asked her guest, insinuating the same thing…

        and said that the FBI would probably want to know why she didn’t report him after becoming suspicious of all his guns (an American hobby these days).
        (Sorry, I don’t know her name, but you can use the time stamp of this post to look her up I suppose)

        Many folks don’t see the crazy world we live in today?

        • Marym625 (27308 posts)
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          22. Said which thing?

          Why didn’t the girlfriend report him?

          Considering he had two homes, why assume she even knew?

          Amassing a gun collection doesn’t mean someone is planning something like this. I bet thousands of people have at least that many guns. Why the fuck didn’t the government know? They watch people screw around in their homes but they don’t track who is buying a shit ton of ammo and guns?

          Take Action #StopFCC https://www.battleforthenet.com/breaktheinternet/ "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
          • bpilgrim (386 posts)
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            24. “Why didn’t the girlfriend report him?” yes

            And exactly… tens of thousands of Americans have dozens of guns… this line of speculation is highly specious at best.

            • Marym625 (27308 posts)
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              25. In this day and age, it sure is

              Take Action #StopFCC https://www.battleforthenet.com/breaktheinternet/ "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
          • Coldmountaintrail (3690 posts)
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            30. he had more than two homes, i believe. plus rentals in multiple states.

            • Marym625 (27308 posts)
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              35. We must change gun and ammo laws

              No one needs that kind of arsenal. And amassing that kind of arsenal should be on the government’s radar

              Take Action #StopFCC https://www.battleforthenet.com/breaktheinternet/ "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
    • ronRonnie (650 posts)
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      4. I caught the irony…

      You’d have to be blind not to notice the irony in the RW talking points.  Okay, so the RW want every “law abiding citizen” to own guns.  Lots of guns.  It’s the 2nd Amendment.

      Rich, WHITE man buys lots of guns – ALL very legal – And now the RW is saying the girlfriend should have alerted the authorities?   Say what?

      The RW is tripping all over itself trying to wish it away.  Now they’re saying the shooter is Antifa and targeted the concert because it was country/western music and the crowd sang God Bless America.

      Grasping.  At.  Straws.

       

    • RufusTFirefly (2550 posts)
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      5. A clear case of gun nuttery. And yet…

      … the corporate media is going to tie a blindfold over our eyes and then spin us round and round until we’re so utterly confused that we no longer have a clue what this is all about. In fact, I’m guessing that some people will claim victory and go home once they’ve successfully proven that it was NOT the girlfriend’s fault.

      Folks. It’s not about the girlfriend. It’s not about the meds. It’s not even about mental illness. It’s about one guy (as far as we know)’who was able to take an arsenal of weapons into a hotel room unnoticed or unstopped and then use them to take nearly 60 innocent lives and injure hundreds of others.

      • bpilgrim (386 posts)
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        9. Yep. Now the issue is; what are our legislators going to do about this problem..

        GUN NUTTERY.

        Sorry, but this goes way beyond just 1 gun nut… as the country is FULL of them, with easy access to guns… that is the issue; preventing these ‘one guy’s easily accessing the WMDs, to begin with, and then guns in general when they are on meds, or with criminal records, to finish with (during this first round of improving our gun control laws – please add more ideas to the list).

        FYI: “This is all about 1 guy…” that is also the NRA mainstay position.

        peace

         

         

        • RufusTFirefly (2550 posts)
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          11. Point taken. I agree.

          When I mentioned “one guy” it was not meant to discount the larger issue, but I can see how it could be construed this way.

          We can’t keep putting out fires and ignore the great big gas tank that’s the source of all of them.

      • davidgmills (6009 posts)
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        27. We don't know shit frankly.

        We know there are lots of dead people and lots of injured people.  Beyond that we know very little.  We don’t know if there was one shooter or more.  We don’t know if this 64 year old pulled the trigger.  We just know what we have been told —  that there was a crazed lone gunman just like we were told with JFK.

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    • Pacco Fransisco (4133 posts)
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      6. Desparation to blame someone other than the nut job who did this.

      They will be attacking his brother if not already over his fathers problems.

      I am L0oniX  Fuck David and his pin head DLC 3rd way herd of goats
      • davidgmills (6009 posts)
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        7. Whythe fuck call people nut jobs if they are mentally ill?

        Low class if you ask me.  We have a serious mental health problem in the US and guns and poor mental health don’t mix.

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        • bpilgrim (386 posts)
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          10. because these people are mass murderers

          but the language can be cleaned up, once we come up with a list of rational gun control.

          peace

          • davidgmills (6009 posts)
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            12. Calling them nut jobs does not help.

            It is as bad as calling someone retarded.  We need to prevent the mentally ill from getting guns, but we have no mental health system that comes close to doing that.  The mentally ill are allowed to walk the streets because we refuse to take care of them.

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            • bpilgrim (386 posts)
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              13. I agree…

              …I’m a little emotional right now, and extremely angry at these mass murderers and their defacto supporters in leadership who are bought off by the NRA, and using this deadly issue as a crass political wedge issue; while we all are being shot like fish in a barrel, now with fucking machine guns no less! (and don’t even go there about it was a ‘simulated’ one; as I’m not in the mood for semantics right now).

              peace

        • Pacco Fransisco (4133 posts)
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          14. Why start up shit over me calling the guy a nut job?

          No one has determined if the guy was mentally ill. Republicans are also referred to as nut jobs and wing nuts …is that ok with you?

          I am L0oniX  Fuck David and his pin head DLC 3rd way herd of goats
          • davidgmills (6009 posts)
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            15. Are you saying that he was not mentally ill?

            Because usually the implication when there is a mass murder of this nature and the shooter is called a nut job the implication is that he was mentally ill.  And given the posts about him having a prescription for Valium for “anxiety,” it sounds to me the implication of nut job was that you meant he was mentally ill.

            Do we call people of sound mind nut jobs?

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            • Pacco Fransisco (4133 posts)
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              17. Nice of you to defend the killer …for what ever reason you chose to do so.

              I’m sure all the nut jobs out there will be insulted by me calling the killer a nut job. Apparently you want to have it out with me over this shit. Nothing better to do? I’m out …I ain’t going to give you anymore responses after this one …got better things to focus on so enjoy your agenda to suppress the use of the phrase “nut job”. Good luck.

              I am L0oniX  Fuck David and his pin head DLC 3rd way herd of goats
              • davidgmills (6009 posts)
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                19. Well lawyers defend killers. It is part of what we do.

                Glad you decided that the “alleged” shooter was both a nut job and that he was the real killer.

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                • HIP56948 (3101 posts)
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                  23. With all respect, I believe you're making way too much of an…

                  …everyday, ordinary expression.

                  • davidgmills (6009 posts)
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                    26. The ordinary expression does not usually include people accused of henious

                    Crimes.  To say a politician is a nut job has an entirely different meaning than to say a mentally ill person is a nut job.

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          • retired liberal (1866 posts)
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            16. Shades of SV, here, huh?

            The guy obviously was not in his right mind, the very definition of a nut job.

            No matter how cynical you become, it's never enough to keep up. Lily Tomlin
            • Pacco Fransisco (4133 posts)
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              28. +1

              I am L0oniX  Fuck David and his pin head DLC 3rd way herd of goats
            • Coldmountaintrail (3690 posts)
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              31. why is it obvious? because he killed a lot of people, and you have to

              be crazy to do that?

              • retired liberal (1866 posts)
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                33. Huh? Do you really think he was in his right mind?

                I don’t.

                No matter how cynical you become, it's never enough to keep up. Lily Tomlin
                • Coldmountaintrail (3690 posts)
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                  36. i repeat

                  a lot of people because he’s crazy.

                  is that a fair summary of your view?

                  and to answer your own question: i don’t have any view of the person because i don’t have enough data to even be confident in my own mind about him or the incident

        • ThomPaine (4663 posts)
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          34. Let me get this straight you think it is necessary to use "low class" in

          your argument?  You insinuate that Pacco is low class and then argue that what this alleged mass murdered did can’t be called a nut job?      I don’t think we should be mocking Eric Trump’s mentality but do think we can refer to the mass murdered as a nut job.  I hope you can see where I draw the line.

          I hope you are as upset about the shooting as you are about calling the asshole a nutjob.

          aka rhett o rick.     The rich treat us like ants. They may avoid stepping on us, but if our home is in the way of their new swimming pool, we can kiss our ants goodbye.
          • davidgmills (6009 posts)
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            37. I am very upset about the killing.

            What I am also upset about is the fact we have virtually no evidence about the details of what happened.  We have been told this guy did it.  To me it has a very JFK ring to it.

            I don’t get how people can get so bent out of shape about the MSM’s failure to generate real news and then turn around and buy a story like this hook, line and sinker.

            I want to see some real detailed facts about what we know and what we don’t.

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    • PuffGranny (456 posts)
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      8. Someone to blame/whip other than the obvious

      Personally I can’t imagine the girlfriend having any knowledge of what was about to happen, but “we” need someone to punish. What the brother in FL said yesterday rang true to me, the killer wanted her out of the way, and he wanted to take care of her post evil deed. I hope she has lawyered up, and for sweet Jesus, the brother should have lawyered up before he made any statements. There is one person responsible for the evil that took place, and it is not the girlfriend nor brother.

      #stillbernie
    • Doremus Jessup (3022 posts)
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      18. Where do I tune in to watch a "honest" M$M reporter???

      There aren’t enough ankle bracelets if they were to monitor all of the nutty gun-humpers in this country. They would produce enough to lock up every black man with a legal weapon I’m sure. I am pro shotgun and pro single shot rifle.

      Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity. End ALL occupations and bring the troops home.
      • bpilgrim (386 posts)
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        20. lots of great independent journalists out there; Democracy Now, etc.

        but yeah… not so much in the M$M :(

         

        :hi:

    • shaayecanaan (468 posts)
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      29. The armchair gum humpers would have put a stop to it, had they been there

      No matter that it was dark, that the shooter was on the 32nd level, behind a window and that it would have not been particularly easy to steady a sniper rifle during a massacre and subsequent stampede, and that police on the ground would probably have killed you before you could have taken a shot, the internet is plumb-full of crack riflemen who could have taken out the shooter with a single shot as easy as breathing. After all, they have fired their rifle at the range at lease twice and have played Sniper Elite II, what else is there to know?

      What a tragedy it is that none of these cast-iron all-American heroes ever seem to be present when these sorts of incidents take place.

    • Enthusiast (10648 posts)
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      32. Twisted they have become. Even more than before.

      How twisted can they get?

      "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat, 1848
    • tripleQ (704 posts)
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      38. Blaming the spouse/partner

      (or mother sometimes) of a political enemy is disgusting, and disgustingly popular.

      Excuses given for doing it:

      “She married him; so she must be a piece of shit too.”

      “How could she NOT know his crimes.”

      “She stayed with him despite the allegations so she must be fine with what he’s done.”

      Ive seen the Cosby wife accused of being a rapist as much as her hubby is; seen Mrs Trump pilloried by ‘progressives’ for her sexy-modeling past, seen Sanders accused because his wife made a ruinous, maybe ethically ‘flexible’ land deal, seen the parents of Dylan Roof blamed because “people learn that hate at home!” seen Chelsea Clinton and the Palin kids and even little Barron Trump excoriated because people use them as proxies:  ‘hate the parent, hate the child’

      It all sucks.  It is against everything I believe in.  I’m never surprised when RWs do it but I’m sickened when my own people indulge, which, sadly, is just as common.

      I know from my own life, I have no control over my relatives and partners and they have no control over me.  There’s a lot of bad stuff they do that I neither agree with nor condone (and vice verse of course) but I still love/loved  them.

      And I know romantic partners keep plenty of secrets from each other.  People keep huge secrets (infidelity, sexual orientation, finances) ALL the freaking time.

      People should leave the poor girlfriend alone.