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  • Bjorn Against (199 posts)
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    "She is the best fundraiser the Democratic Party has ever had!"

    A few weeks ago while listening to the radio on my morning commute to work I heard a Democratic pundit react to calls to remove Nancy Pelosi from leadership…

    “How could anyone even think of removing her from leadership? She is the best fund-raiser the Democratic Party has ever had!”

    The guy may have thought he was making a great case for Pelosi’s leadership, but little did he realize that his words demonstrated exactly why the Democratic Party is so out of touch.

    The typical American is not impressed by a politician’s ability to attract wealthy donors, in fact they are usually turned off by it.

    The majority of people do not look at the piles of money Pelosi is raking in and view that money as something that benefits them in any way.

    The average American is sick of seeing politicians cozy up to the rich while the common citizen remains unheard, the last thing we want to see is for the party’s top fund-raiser to be heading the leadership that is supposed to be working for the American people.

    We see big differences between the type of fund raising that Bernie does which involves collecting small donations from thousands of ordinary citizens, and the kind of fund-raising that Nancy Pelosi does which involves the extremely wealthy paying thousands of dollars to have dinner with her and sell their agenda.

    Right now the Democratic Leadership is controlled pretty much entirely by leaders like Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and the Clintons, politicians who inspire little excitement from common citizens, but are very well loved by their millionaire donors.

    Until this changes the reality is that the two party system is totally incapable of representing the working class.

    We need a People’s Party that is actually led by common citizens and not the fund-raisers. We need leaders who will speak to us even if we can’t afford to attend a $10,000 a plate fundraiser, and neither of the current parties are providing that. Instead we get stuck with two parties that run under strict rules, rules that were created by the people in power to help them maintain their power without being challenged by common citizens.

    Some people say we can’t start this People’s Party because doing so would help the Republicans. My response to that is that allowing the current Democratic leadership to remain in power is helping the Republicans. The Democrats have lost more than 1,000 legislative seats in recent years, they have virtually no power in state governments through the majority of the nation, and they somehow managed to lose the Presidential election to the worst candidate in this nation’s history.

    Those who are enabling the same Democratic Leadership that has been losing election after election to remain in their leadership positions are helping the Republicans far more than those of us calling for change are.

    If the Democrats want us to support their leadership then they need to get new leadership rather than insisting the rest of us vote for people who don’t represent us.

    If the Democrats choose to stop representing the millionaires that Pelosi dines with and start representing the working class then there would be no need to have a People’s Party, but until they start representing the working class we are going to stand up to support a party that does represent the working class.

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    • Marym625 (26294 posts)
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      1. On The Daily Radical!

      Thank you

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    • Iwillnevergiveup (688 posts)
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      2. Yes indeed – perfectly stated, Bjorn Against

      “If the Democrats want us to support their leadership then they need to get new leadership rather than insisting the rest of us vote for people who don’t represent us.”

      We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.     Native American Proverb
    • CalGoldenBear (986 posts)
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      3. BFD. So she's "the best fund-raiser" for House Dems

      From Politico early last year:

      “* * * Since 2002, Pelosi has raised $468.9 million.

      “The $40 million haul so far this cycle is a record breaker for Pelosi. She raised just more than $35 million in 2013 and $27 million in 2011.

      “Pelosi’s office said in 2015 that she attended 205 fundraising events in 35 cities while raising $8 million from grass-roots supporters.“  [Uh, yeah, the well-heeled “grassroots,” certainly not the hoi polloi or “little people”]  (Emphasis added)

      http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/nancy-pelosi-2015-fundraising-218326

      So Nancy works very hard for “her”money, which she then shares with her colleagues in return for their votes for her as their “leader.”  Just drive up with “the honey wagon,” with its nose-wrinkling smell of animal-produced fertilizer and spread the smelly stuff around.

      Supposedly half the members of Congress are millionaires and Pelosi is a multimillionaire and one of the richest:

      http://static.latimes.com/how-much-are-they-worth/nancy-pelosi/  [$29.3 million]

      https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/09/how-did-members-of-congress-get-so-wealthy/379848/ — “In 2012, the Center for Responsive Politics found that the median congressman was worth more than one million dollars.”  [$74.11 million]

      https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-politicians/democrats/nancy-pelosi-net-worth/  [$120 million]

    • Stockholmer (2194 posts)
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      4. Atm, corrupt Pelosi is the Republicans biggest fundraiser as well

      So there’s that.

    • ThouArtThat (5401 posts)
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      5. Pelosi Playing The Citizen's United Fiddle For All Its Worth

      eom

      "In America Today, Power Corrupts and Money Corrupts Absolutely" - Anonymous  
    • TRex (3041 posts)
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      6. That statement might be true but it has no real affect on the working class.

      All that means is “gosh politics is so expensive – best to leave it up to the rich” kinda bullshit.

      “The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.” - Obama
    • N2Doc (4724 posts)
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      7. And What Good Has It Done Them?

       

      Oh yeah, they got rich off it.

      "But nothing ever changes unless there's some pain" - Tears For Fears "Goodnight Song"
      • ctsnowman (570 posts)
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        13. Nailed it

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      • Enthusiast (10167 posts)
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        22. Plus one a whole bunch!

        :bounce:  Well done, Doc!

        "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat, 1848
    • Hobbit709 (2908 posts)
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      8. So fellating corporate $pon$or$ is a virtue now?

      .

      I won't shut up and I don't waste my time teaching pigs to sing
      • PennLawyer (2377 posts)
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        9. When it comes to political whores, she's NUMBER ONE!

        This “Democratic pundit” sounds like a pimp reacting to someone telling him to fire his most popular whore.

        • Fawke Em (4075 posts)
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          24. I believe Joy Reid said that.

          So, yeah, a pimp reacting to someone telling her to fire her most popular whore.

              
      • Enthusiast (10167 posts)
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        23. Among "New Democrats" it is.

        "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat, 1848
    • GZeusH (2201 posts)
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      10. Don't be so one-sided

      Pelosi is the best fundraiser the Republican party has had as well.  All Karen Handel had to do was say “Pelosi — Ossoff” and the money came pouring in for her.

      Policy:  The mistaken notion that bossy people have that they can influence other people's behavior through majority rule.
    • Average Gazoo (1473 posts)
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      11. "If the party’s “pro-business” wing wants to survive the Democratic civil war,

      it must learn fast that its money and stature are burdens, not assets.”

      http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/11/how-to-lose-a-fight-with-progressives-215364

    • djean111 (5224 posts)
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      12. Excellent! And that, my friends, is all the Democratic Party stands for, now –

      raising money.  They will say anything, to raise money.  IMO, they don’t even bother to pretend they want to win and actually do anything, any more.  After all, the GOP and the “deep state” or whatever does it for them.

      • *Obligatory disclaimer - when I say "Democratic Party" I mean the DNC - the Clintons and the un-elected people and the consultants and the lobbyists and the corporations who actually run things.  The people who work and vote and are registered as "D" are no more the actual party than Trekkies are Star Trek.   Extra credit - the Democratic Party gets to actually fuck up your life. When you vote for it.
      You think the only reason that people won't vote for a warmongering Third Way fracking-enabling cluster bomb throwing H-1B increasing lying pandering corporate and Wall Street shill who says she has no problem putting abortion rights on the table is because we are mad about Bernie?  Um, nope.
    • Jefferson23 (6989 posts)
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      14. HA HA HA By his admission, she is the greatest corporate tool, EVER.

      *

    • SurrealAmerican (965 posts)
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      15. Wouldn't it be great if we chose our legislative leaders …

      … by their ability to legislate in the public interest, instead of their ability to raise money?

      … crazy dream, I know …

    • AmandaMatthews (100 posts)
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      16. Well her money making ability seems to not

      be impressing the ‘base’.

      The DNC Is Debt Ridden, Unpopular and Failing

       

      • Enthusiast (10167 posts)
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        21. They do not seem to give a single fuck.

        "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat, 1848
    • Populist Prole (749 posts)
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      17. Strange. For all their supposed financial acumen…

      ….far from being shrewd, they’re displaying remarkable air-headedness.

      I mean, they’ve pretty much gotten every last bit of juice from the turnip that they’re ever going to get. The “turnip” being their coveted moderate republican turned off by Trump who is eager to join the third-way team. More fund raising to chase this group is a diminishing return. Well  is tapped out.

      I guess they’re going all-in on the 13 or 14 people left that still may believe “democrats win = working class wins”.

      • Enthusiast (10167 posts)
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        19. I love your terminology! "remarkable air-headedness"

        :bounce:

        "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat, 1848
    • Enthusiast (10167 posts)
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      18. Recommended to the max! 51 recommendations and rightly so.

      We don’t want no Clinton-Schumer-Pelosi party.

      "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat, 1848
    • Cleita (2645 posts)
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      20. Yep. It's time to retire her.

      I hope Democratic voters in her district replace her with a better Representative.

       

    • Agony (109 posts)
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      26. same applies to Chuck Schumer – tool of the well off …

      no friend of ordinary people but AWESOME Wall Street fundraiser.

      Chuck is all set for himself so he can afford to pretend to advocate for the little people occasionally.

      End Mass Incarceration and the Drug War - the New Jim Crow
    • Ohio Barbarian (5164 posts)
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      27. Superb post. Well deserving of the Daily Radical.

      Write more.

      Ignorance is the foundation of tyranny.   
    • Colors of the Rainbow (1488 posts)
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      28. Four years

      That was all that fantastic fundraising was good for with former U.S. House speaker Nancy Pelosi.

    • chknltl (323 posts)
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      29. The Titanic was impressive too!

      Just sayin’.