"So many people abuse the system!"

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    • #9017
      David the Gnome
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      That, “Those who deserve help cant get it!”  This is a complaint I hear very often.  From friends, family, random people that, from one day to the next I may have to do some kind of business with.  I usually just grunt in reply, or, if I’m in a particularly annoyed mood I roll my eyes.

      Where is this epidemic of people abusing the system?  It took me two years to get through the SSI process – and it is unpleasant, to say the least.  So much paperwork, evaluations, interviews, so long with no clue whether any of it will matter.

      Only some kind of masochist would go through all of that just to abuse the system.  I cant say it doesnt happen on occasion – but media and government would have you believe this happens all the time, everywhere.  Such is not the case.

      How do we determine who “deserves help”?  It is not based on merit.  It is based on poverty and on ability.  Unfortunately, being poor in this Country is not enough, you must also have a severe disability and/or be in truly desperate circumstances.

      Did you know that other Countries actually provide a stipend just because people are poor?  Whether you have children or not, or are disabled, they determined that poverty is enough of an issue to offer assisstance.

      Now, Democrats and Republicans have been cutting food stamps and other programs for years – and may now be going in for the kill.

      Dont be fooled though, most of those getting assisstance get it because they need it.  The “welfare queen” is a myth.

    • #9024
      jwirr
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      includes every government program available to people in need. My son-in-law is furious that his sister’s family are all getting some form of “welfare” because they are mostly suffering from addiction – synthetic mj – and he sees it as enabling them. I finally told him that they are given help for housing, food and medicine because it is cheaper than putting them all in jail.

      jwirr

    • #9026
      ThouArtThat
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      And anyone unable to prosper under their system is deficient and unworthy.

      Such is the power of the bully pulpit, propaganda and memes.

      In modern times it all goes back to The Powell Memo;  all the root policy is there in black and white.

      The Powell Memo (also known as the Powell Manifesto)

      That which can be destroyed by the truth should be.

      - P.C. Hodgell

      The essence of normality is the refusal of reality.

      - Ernest Becker

      Politics is the entertainment division of the Military Industrial Complex.

      - Frank Zappa

      Rights aren't rights if someone can take them away. They're privileges.

      - George Carlin

      Sooner or later we all sit down to a banquet of consequences.

      - Robert Louis Stevenson

    • #9031
      N2Doc
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      Nearly Always. If you dig down, folks who believe this believe the myth of the fat, lazy minority/illegal immigrant living high on the hog and getting privileges that the believer doesn’t have.

      Exceedingly rarely will they believe this because of the myriad examples of police, politicians, contractors and corporate types getting money and other stuff by bribery or legalized theft of assets.

    • #9352
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      and many who need help don’t get it is the corollary.

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