Street fires burn in Hong Kong amid running battles between protesters and police

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    • #167482
      Ohio Barbarian
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      Well, things are heating up even more in Hong Kong:

      HONG KONG (Reuters) – Hong Kong police fired water cannon, rubber bullets and tear gas at petrol bomb-throwing protesters on Sunday in some of the most widespread and violent clashes in more than three months of anti-government unrest.


      Protesters, many of them dressed in black and wearing face masks, took cover from the tear gas behind umbrellas, some throwing the canisters back at police.

      They built barricades with trolleys and trash cans and other debris. One threw a petrol bomb at police in the Wan Chai metro station. Others tried and failed to smash cameras over Bank of China ATMs but spray-painted the screens instead.

      At least one petrol bomb landed in the grounds of central government offices where several windows were smashed. There were also street fires on the main drag of Hennessy Road.

      Full, pretty in-depth, article here. 

      This is getting out of hand, and so is Western media coverage. In this article, Reuters refers to Hong Kong as a “Chinese-ruled city.” Chinese-ruled? That’s like saying San Francisco is an American-ruled city. Of course Hong Kong’s ruled by Chinese, it’s a Chinese city, FFS!

      These protests started out, quite legitimately and understandably IMO, because the Chinese government was trying to violate the 1997 treaty governing the cession of Hong Kong from the British Empire to China, in which it guaranteed Hong Kong residents would not be extradited to the mainland for trial. After weeks of protests, the Chinese government backed down. Now, the protesters are demanding more, up to and including independence, and are becoming more violent.

      I don’t think Western intelligence agencies started this, and I don’t know that they’re fanning the flames now, but they could be trying to take advantage of the situation by stoking the fires so that the Chinese central government will have no choice but to send in the tanks, which would make them look the Xi regime look bad. The Chinese government isn’t about to allow Hong Kong’s independence, anymore than the US government would allow Honolulu’s independence.

      Whether there is foreign involvement or not, the protesters are going too far. Once a few police or government officials get killed, the Chinese government will respond with overwhelming and lethal force. The protesters need to back down now, or the Chinese government will have reason to say they have no one but themselves to blame for the repression to come if they don’t. After all, neither the British nor the Americans are going to come to their aid. They’re just not that important.

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      This situation has become a hot potato for Western news agencies. I suppose out of fear of what China may do to those news media or countries (not sure what or why), in which they reside, ignoring the ongoing protests and violence in Hong Kong must embrace such decision.


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      I don’t blame the protesters in Hong Kong although I don’t think it will turn out well for them.  China has never really honored the 1997 treaty – they don’t truly have universal suffrage which was one of the rights they were supposed to have been granted and now with the extradition of people to the mainland, that is another provision that has been disregarded by China.

    • #167571
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      The low wages, lack of economic opportunity for young people, and lack of adequate housing in Hong Kong really has little to do with Beijing and is more related to the local monopoly rentier class left in power when Britain left.   Hong Kong’s relative economic decline and loss of status is related to China’s remarkable economic expansion, and leaves foundering young people perplexed, frustrated and resentful.   I’m certain they would benefit with greater suffrage and ability to direct economic policies within Hong Kong but that would require local elites to give up political power.   Ideas of independence from the mainland and amnesty for violent demonstrators are absurd.   Many of the actors are coached by outsiders.    The notion that the situation isn’t being manipulated for geopolitical advantage simply disregards the Ango-American track record in situations of this nature.

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