Supreme Court ends federal eviction moratorium

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      Ohio Barbarian
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      (NY Post) The US Supreme Court on Thursday night struck down a federal eviction moratorium that was recently extended by President Joe Biden’s administration without congressional support.

      The decision to end the pandemic-related eviction freeze came as a result of a legal challenge to the policy brought by a coalition of landlords and real estate trade groups.

      On Aug. 3, the moratorium was extended by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, despite a lack of congressional approval.

      The decision was a change of course for the Biden administration, which had initially let the previous ban expire after an earlier Supreme Court ruling on the policy.

      Full story here

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      • #442528
        Ohio Barbarian
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        Once again, they will somehow manage to fail, I’m sure. Once again, they have a golden opportunity to prove me wrong.

        It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

        You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #442525
      Jim Lane
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      @ohiobarbarian

      The six Justices appointed by Republicans all voted to throw untold numbers of tenants out on the street.

      The three Justices appointed by corrupt sellout corporatist Vichy Dems all dissented.

      I sure hope all those newly homeless people don’t get the impression that there might be any significant differences between the two major parties….

      • #442527
        Ohio Barbarian
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        But I don’t care all that much about the Supreme Court. Are your precious Democrats going to extend the eviction moratorium by means of an Act of Congress? If they don’t, they will have failed millions of American citizens and once again proven themselves nothing but running dog lackeys of the kleptocratic regime.

        Still, nice sarcastic barb. Well-played.

        It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

        You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

        • #442539
          Jim Lane
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          @ohiobarbarian

          You write:

          Are your precious Democrats going to extend the eviction moratorium by means of an Act of Congress?

          I’m pretty sure an eviction moratorium would not survive a “Byrd bath” – the application of the Senate rules concerning contents of reconciliation bills. It would therefore be subject to filibuster. With every single Republican voting against cloture, the bill would fall far short of the needed 60 votes.

          There’s a clear majority in the Democratic caucus for modifying or eliminating the filibuster. Unfortunately, it’s not unanimous. With the Senate evenly divided, it takes only one Manchin or Sinema (or maybe Feinstein) joining the Republicans in voting Nay, and filibuster reform is dead.

          So, to recap: A Democratic President issues an eviction moratorium. The Republicans on the Supreme Court kill the moratorium, over the dissent of all the Democrats. The Republicans in Congress, plus ONE Democrat, have enough votes to block a pro-tenant bill, even one that has the support of most of the Democrats in the House and most of the Democrats in the Senate. Therefore, the impending evictions are the fault of… the Democrats?

          You write that you “don’t care all that much about the Supreme Court.” I’ll hazard a guess that you’re not going to be evicted. Congratulations.  Perhaps you can find it in your heart to realize that some other people do care.

          • #442554
            Ohio Barbarian
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            You liberals rely on the Supreme Court to legislate what the politicians you donate to refuse to do, The Democrats ARE in power, and if they don’t act then they have failed as a party and proven their worthlessness to the American people. The fact that your party allows corrupt people like Byrd and Sinema and Pelosi in it tells me all I need to know.

            Cheer for them all you want. I’m a socialist. I won’t.

            It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

            You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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              Jim Lane
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              @ohiobarbarian

              You write:

              The fact that your party allows corrupt people like Byrd and Sinema and Pelosi in it tells me all I need to know.

              Robert Byrd died in 2010. Letting him rest in peace, I’ll move on to Sinema.

              In 2018 there was an open U.S. Senate seat in Arizona (Jeff Flake was retiring). The candidates in the Democratic primary were Kyrsten Sinema and Deedra Aboud. Sinema, despite her past affiliation with the Green Party, ran as a centrist. Aboud was an unabashed progressive who was endorsed by Justice Democrats and Progressive Democrats of America. Across the country, in the NY-14 district, there was another contested primary, as long-time incumbent Joe Crowley was challenged by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. AOC also had endorsements from the left, e.g. Democracy for America and MoveOn.

              Results: The winners of the Democratic primaries were Sinema and AOC. Both went on to win the general election.

              Comes now Ohio Barbarian to complain that the Democratic Party “allows” Sinema in it. I’m sure many progressives share your dismay. I’m also sure that many conservaDems, well represented on DU for example, dislike AOC (though not for the reasons you do). So why does the Democratic Party allow both these women in it? Because they won the friggin’ primaries, that’s why.

              Maybe some people who share your views but who, unlike you, haven’t given up on electoral politics would reject this excuse. Maybe the People’s Party, if it ever gets on a ballot anywhere, will establish a Central Commission on Ideological Purity, which will have the power to override the voters if the result of the primary displeases the leadership. The Democratic Party has no mechanism for that. The leadership weighs in – heavily endorsing Sinema and Crowley – but, regardless of the leadership’s preferences or the winner’s policy stances, the choice of the primary voters is indeed “allowed” in the party.

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                Ohio Barbarian
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                It’s Democrats calling for censorship on social media more than anyone else right now, including Republicans. So I got Byrd mixed up with Manchin. Oh well. Two peas in a pod. I’m done with the Democrats, and no leftist should have anything to do with them. Those who vote for them and send money to them in hopes of improving their material standards of living or that of their children are fools and suckers, though upper middle class professionals benefit from the current system so at least they are voting for their own economic self-interests when they vote for Fascists like Joe Biden and Fascist enablers like Bernie Sanders.

                I don’t even see any point in using the term progressive anymore, since that term has been hijacked by Democrats who never do anything to fight for the values they espouse. Your party is nothing more than a criminal money-laundering organization, and is only legal now because the corrupt own the system.

                You can relax, though. I doubt I’ll be around this site much longer, or at the very least will stop engaging with people like you. There really isn’t any point to it any longer for me; it’s just a waste of my increasingly precious time. @gzeush gave some excellent advice last year–to concentrate on the things I can control and the people I love while waiting for this fucked up capitalist empire we live in to implode. I’ll take a retired god’s advice over yours every time.

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      David the Gnome
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      This is just further confirmation of what I already suspect.  That our government and institutions in general have gone beyond corrupt and greedy.  Now they are increasingly cruel.  I don’t say this lightly…

      They (in this case, the supreme court six, Republican party and at least one democrat) actually want people to lose their homes.  They want people to suffer.  Maybe they think it is a learning experience, I am sure some would carry on about financial responsibility and such.

      None of those lectures or lessons feed hungry kids, or get you inside out of the cold.  Or keep you alive and hydrated in extreme heat.

      Yet somehow, these cruel and ignorant people continue to win elections.  Somehow, people are ignorant enough and callous enough to keep voting for assholes who despise the poor.  While our leaders grow ever more wealthy, so does their contempt for those who are poor, for those in need, for the common good.

      I am no longer convinced this is a battle that can be won.  I ask myself some times now, if we are facing our destruction through climate change, war, disease and so much else… Perhaps because we deserve to.

      Are so many of us really that fucking terrible?  That we don’t want people to have homes, or food, or comfort because it might cost us something?

      I just dont know.  I used to think people were mostly good, but lately i wonder if it is the opposite.  There are so damn many humans on this planet – and so many suffering every day.  Even here, in the supposed heart of democracy and freedom, the richest and most powerful Nation… Cruelty, ignorance and selfishness seem to rule.

      How do you even begin to go about changing that?  It isn’t just the politicians.  If a lot of us weren’t hateful assholes, we would never elect the lot of them.

      • #442853
        Thom Paine
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        I don’t see a good way out.  A general strike would harm the 99% most and most likely give the 1% more power.  The 99% won’t/can’t unite to revolt against the 1%. A progressive party faces problems. Mainly they can’t even get along among themselves. Also, if big money can buy control of the Dem and Insurrection Party, it sure as hell could buy control of a progressive party.

        • #443187
          Ohio Barbarian
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          None that I can see, anyway.

          It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

          You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #442556
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      But that money was for the Banks and Investors.

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