The Afghanistan War And The Dissenters We Should’ve Listened To

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      ZimInSeattle
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      Let’s seek out such voices next time a presidential administration moves the United States toward launching a war.

      Vice President Joe Biden and Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai in 2011 (Photo: US Embassy Kabul Afghanistan)

       

      President Joe Biden delivered a speech where he stood by the withdrawal of United States military forces from Afghanistan, but he crudely blamed the people of Afghanistan for the chaos that has unfolded over the past several days.

      It was a lie to assert the war in Afghanistan was never about nation-building. Neoconservatives in President George W. Bush’s administration, who launched the war, deployed troops for an open-ended mission to establish a government that could secure the country against the Taliban and be a reliable ally in the region.

      Biden also lied about opposing a surge in Afghanistan when he vice president in President Barack Obama’s administration. He backed sending an additional 20,000 troops but was opposed to sending more than 20,000 like Obama did.

      The president had nothing to say about the Pentagon and CIA’s resistance to adequately planning for withdrawal, even though that could have helped avoid some of the scenes of panic which were broadcast.

      More at above link.

      "Poverty is the parent of revolution and crime" - Aristotle "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine" - George Bernard Shaw "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK "If wars can be started by lies, they can be stopped by truth." ~ Julian Assange #SurviveAndRevolt

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      Bearian
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      he sounded pissed that the Afghani’s weren’t willing to die in a Civil War that the U.S. wanted and was Financing. ” We spent a lot of money preparing you for War and this is how you repay us, you bunch of Cowards.”

    • #440776
      GZeusH
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      Afghan war hawks would be less popular than child molesters. And President Hairsniffer wouldn’t have made it out of the primaries.

      Corporate America consists of totalitarian entities laser-focused on short-term greed.

      If you just got finessed into calling the medicine that won the 2015 Nobel Prize for its role in treating human disease ‘horse de-wormer’ then you need to sit the next couple of plays out.

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      3fingerbrown
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      I pedict after all is said and done America will learn absolutely nothing.

      All governments lie to their citizen's, but only Americans believe theirs.

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      Ohio Barbarian
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      They were trying to force Joe Biden, or whoever is pulling his strings, to back down and keep the troops there in order to avoid optics like people falling off of planes flying away from Kabul, and photos of helicopters taking off from roofs.

      Fortunately, it didn’t work. Unfortunately, Biden will never call them out, much less fire a bunch of the bastards.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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