The Big Barrier to a Medicare For All Vote Isn’t Republicans, It’s Democrats

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    • #343230
      salemcourt
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      As dozens of Democratic lawmakers unveiled their Medicare for All bill on a cold, late February day, 16 million Americans turned their eyes to Capitol Hill. Unfortunately for those Dems, the eyes were aimed a few hundred feet away at Donald Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen testifying before the House.

      Being on the losing end of a big news day may be a fitting start for the bill. While universal health care has become perhaps the most energizing cause in progressive grassroots circles, party leadership in Congress is focusing elsewhere. The biggest short-term barrier to Medicare for All getting a floor vote isn’t Republicans, it’s convincing their own side to take it up.

      It is in fact Republicans who are pushing to advance M4A in the House. They’ve sent a letter to Energy and Commerce Committee chair Frank Pallone asking him to hold hearings on the bill. Republicans in swing districts are cheering them on. “I hope my friends on the other side of the aisle do try to make this their signature issue,” said Republican Rep. Will Hurd of Texas’s very swingy 23rd District.

      The executive director of Partnership for America’s Health Care Future is Lauren Crawford Shaver, formerly director of expansion state programs for the 2016 Hillary Clinton presidential campaign, and before that an Obama administration official.

       

       

       

      https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/paulmcleod/medicare-for-all-democrats-barrier-house-2020

    • #343236
      NV Wino
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      Sideways. Twice.

      “As we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore.” Barbara Lee
      “Politicians and pro athletes: The only people who still get paid when they lose.” William Rivers Pitt

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      ArtfromArk
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      From my experience, the vast majority of opponents to Medicare for All are Trump supporters. They seem to think that they would pay for everyone’s health care out of their own pockets, and that a national health care system is tantamount to Communism. I would say that this is little more than posturing by House Republicans, who know that a real, honest, sincere Medicare for All bill would never pass in today’s Senate.

      “There’s a new spirit abroad in the land. The old days of ‘grab and greed’ are on their way out. We’re beginning to think of what we owe the other fellow, not just what we’re compelled to give him. The time’s coming… when we shan’t be able to fill our bellies in comfort while others go hungry, sleep in warm beds while others shiver in the cold.... And God willing, we’ll live to see that day…” Basil Rathbone,"Sherlock Holmes Faces Death" (Universal 1943)

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      gordyfl
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      If a Republican in my District actually voted for Medicare for All, he might just win my vote. That might be their political strategy to win over Dems and Independents.

      I’d like to see how this turns out.

    • #343294
      djean111
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      @artfromark – it is the money the politicians – BOTH “SIDES” – get from insurance companies and Pharma that determines this.  Our government manages to get all kinds of shit done for the rich, and does not care, and is not influenced by, what Trumpers think.  But blaming the base of either mythical “side” is just a great and divisive reason.  Also, as far as this attitude goes, my sister (73, white, had a VERY hard life, has since married fortuitously, worships Hillary and Obama and Biden and loathes Trump) – she was horrified to think, when Obama bailed out the mortgage derivatives and we asked why not cancel  the mortgages – she said I paid my mortgage.  Even if this is now pure profit to banks, why should anyone else have their mortgage debt erased.  Also thought paying off student loans and medical debt was wrong because she had paid hers.  This is a lifelong Democrat who will hang up on me if I say anything not glowing about any Democrats.  Except Bernie, she does not like Bernie now.  She loves Biden.  It is easy to blame things on Trumpers, but it really is our almost ENTIRE servile government.  You know, the Democrats and the Republicans both are using COVID to ram through austerity.  Both of them.   If they wanted to enact M4A, they would do so, and those citizens who did not like it would just have to deal with it, because they have nowhere else to go, really.  There is no connection, IMO, between our government and what the people want and/or need.  We are actually inconvenient in many ways.

      America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

      Everything I post is just my opinion, and, honestly, I would love to be wrong.

    • #343336
      ArtfromArk
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      But it’s my experience, from Yahoo! boards, former classmates, etc., that the Trump supporters are almost unified in their opposition to Medicare for All, because it’s “Socialism” or even “Communism”. The Biden supporters I know tend to support Medicare for All, or something close to it.

      “There’s a new spirit abroad in the land. The old days of ‘grab and greed’ are on their way out. We’re beginning to think of what we owe the other fellow, not just what we’re compelled to give him. The time’s coming… when we shan’t be able to fill our bellies in comfort while others go hungry, sleep in warm beds while others shiver in the cold.... And God willing, we’ll live to see that day…” Basil Rathbone,"Sherlock Holmes Faces Death" (Universal 1943)

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      Ohio Barbarian
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      @artfromark Unfortunately, they’ll vote for Biden and the majority of elected Democratic officials who oppose M4A anyway. The Democrats don’t care what their base thinks, and they have no reason to do so as long as that base continues to support them no matter how awful they are.

      Democratic voters are as stupid as Republican ones, in their own way. IMHO, of course.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #343350
      ArtfromArk
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      Arkansas’s last Democratic governor, Mike Beebe, was a good man. He embraced Extended Medicaid (which greatly helped my mom), he imposed a moratorium on state-sponsored executions, he helped to set up a system that allowed elderly people to keep their homes, he recognized women’s reproductive rights. His successor, a Republican, has been just the opposite. On top of that, his successor has imposed work requirements for disabled people on Medicaid– the quintessential “austerity for the poor” Republican. I will vote for every Democrat on my Arkansas ballot (there won’t be many, since this is an off year for state elections9, because when all is said and done, Arkansas Democrats at the state level ARE better than Republicans. It’s just the opposite of what it was 50+ years ago. Since the late ’60s, the “Wallace Democrats” and Confederate flag wavers have gravitated to the Republican Party.


      @ohiobarbarian

      “There’s a new spirit abroad in the land. The old days of ‘grab and greed’ are on their way out. We’re beginning to think of what we owe the other fellow, not just what we’re compelled to give him. The time’s coming… when we shan’t be able to fill our bellies in comfort while others go hungry, sleep in warm beds while others shiver in the cold.... And God willing, we’ll live to see that day…” Basil Rathbone,"Sherlock Holmes Faces Death" (Universal 1943)

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      Ohio Barbarian
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      @artfromark Sorry for my lack of specificity there. I can’t speak for Arkansas; I am not of there and have no right.

      In Ohio, when the Democrats were in power they were every bit as bad and as corrupt as the Democrats in Washington, so what I said for the national Democrats applies just at much to my own state and local Democrats. I understand it can be very different in other states. State parties can be their own things.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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