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  • HomerRamone (444 posts)
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    The Demand For Proof Of Russian Hacking Completely Misses The Point


    The report referenced in these insipid shill pieces is the Joint Analysis Report released yesterday by the FBI and the DHS, which contains no proof of anything whatsoever. It’s just their usual “this is true because we say so” schtick couched in technical jargon the average layman won’t be able to understand. They restate their assertion that two Russian government actors hacked into the communications of an American political party, give a few technical reasons for why they’re saying that, spend a great deal of time talking about what people can generally do to avoid cyberattacks, and provide zero proof to substantiate their claims beyond their say-so. If WikiLeaks had such low standards for their releases they’d be an irrelevant laughingstock. Saying “it’s true because we say so” in a deluge of technical jargon is not the same as providing proof; it’s just a fancy way of saying “it’s true because we say so.”…

    Why are we demanding “proof” of something that’s completely irrelevant to what we actually care about? All the sincere truth lovers I know are far more upset about the breathtaking levels of government corruption that were revealed in the WikiLeaks drops than about some east European potato patch possibly having exposed the truth at a politically inconvenient time. So why are we even engaging in that debate? It’s stupid. The correct response to “Russia hacked the election!” isn’t “Oh yeah? Prove it!” The correct response is, “Our government actively sabotages any candidate who wants to help ordinary Americans put food on their table. That is infinitely more dangerous and outrageous.”

    Another thing I need to draw your attention to is the way they are tightly marrying the word “hacking” with “election”. There has been a careful effort to put those two ideas together so the Average Joe is hearing the phrase “Russia hacked the election” over and over and over. Which to someone who’s not really listening sounds like Russia came in and hacked voting machines…

    You can bet that for most Americans by now, the idea that Russia hacked voting machines is taking hold. All across the country, Mom and Pop are talking about them damn Russians and how they hacked the election, probably imagining some nefarious figure in a Russian greatcoat and one of those furry hat thingies, typing furiously away at a DOS screen, green numbers flying everywhere, hacking into the election machine mainframe and switching all those votes over to that Putin-lover Donald Trump, while taking great swigs of vodka as KGB radio plays communist-approved hits on a state-made transistor radio in a cold gray room decorated only by a small picture of Lenin lying dead in his coffin, the air warmed only by the smell of regret and cold boiled potatoes.


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  • 99thMonkey (3872 posts)
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    1. Excellent points. To which, I'd add

    with another sovereign nation’s elections, not to mention overtly instigating violent coups of any fucking country that  US capitalism deems to be in its “strategic (Imperial) interests”.

    For the US to be whining about this alleged  ‘interference’ is beyond absurd, beyond hypercritical.  It would be laughable if it were not so needlessly & dangerously provocative.

  • Scuba (4472 posts)
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    2. The source isn't what's important …

  • Fawke Em (4183 posts)
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    3. One of the few times I disagree with her.

    I DO think we should demand proof because the CIA uses “national security” to hide a great number of things, including any real proof that the Russians did jack shit, and this sort of thing usually ends up in some kind of war.

    That said: I can walk and chew gum. I can both ask for proof and still point out our government actively shuns candidates for the Average Joe and Jane.