The Democratic Party Stands for Kleptocracy and Empire

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    • #487930
      Ohio Barbarian
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      The old political assumptions have been turned upside down.

      In the past two weeks, both the House and the Senate passed a bill to provide $40 billion to Ukraine. To keep in mind just how much money this is, I’ll use Jimmy Dore’s example of $12 billion being how much money is made each year by the entire music recording industry.

      $40 billion. If we follow the money only a little bit, we can see that it all goes through the grifting paws of the kleptocratic organs of the US Imperial State, and some will eventually reach Ukraine in the form of either weapons or money, all distributed through a chain of imperial government agencies, corporations, and NGOs.

      IOW, this is mainly a money-laundering operation designed to just keep throwing money at the enemies of the Russians in the hopes of literally outspending Russia into submission. When one considers that the entire annual Russian military budget is some $69 billion, one knows that such a strategy cannot possibly accomplish its goal.

      Nope. Quite impossible. Obviously the whole thing is a grifting operation designed to prolong a war as long as possible by propping up an expendable vassal state until the inevitable happens and it is forced to surrender. Meanwhile, KA-CHING!!! Or “Capital!,” as the British imperialists used to more honestly say.

      Brief note to Ukrainians: You are far from the first people to be grist for the mill of US imperial profit. Those American politicians don’t give a shit about you. The sooner you figure this out the better off you will be.

      So that’s what the US Congress voted for. Who were they, particularly? Well, not a single Democrat in either the House or the Senate voted No. One Democrat rep from Maryland, I think, abstained. The rest voted Yes. Every. Single. One of Them.

      Most Republicans, all but 11 in the Senate and 57 in the House, did their bipartisany uniparty thing and happily went along and lined up at the trough like good little piggies. I’m sure they were as happy as these guys:

      illustration of pigs feeding from trough in barn - pigs trough stock illustrations

      So. When one party unanimously votes for war and most but not all of the other party does, which party is more antiwar? Which one is the “lesser evil” if you don’t want America involved in foreign wars?

      The Republican Party is now, quantifiable and objectively, more antiwar than the Democrats are. Period. All of you Blue Wave Democrat partisans out there cannot get around that. Your party has painted itself into an absolute political and(I love this, you virtue-signaling bastards) moral corner.

      If you support any of those Democrats or Republicans who voted for this kleptocratic imperial insanity, you support imperial war overseas more than you do your government doing its fucking job as required by the Constitution to promote the gods-damned general welfare and helping out its own citizens who are in desperate need of that help right fucking now.

      Sorry. I’m a Navy veteran. That’s how I express myself when I’m really, seriously pissed off at people. Anyway, as The Who sang, the party on the left is now the party on the right, and the bipartisany kleptocratic dance enters a new phase in the elite political ballrooms of power in the American Empire.

      If this weren’t enough to say that the old assumptions of the American political paradigm have turned upside down, Donald Trump his own self came out and castigated Democrats for “sending another $40 billion to Ukraine, yet America’s parents are struggling to even feed their children.” Which is true.

      Trump has outflanked the entire Democrat Party on their left without even trying. He’s also saying a very true and very populist thing. If there’s one thing Trump is good at—sometimes—it’s reading the room. Americans are being decimated by inflation on top of all of the other aftereffects of the disastrous federal handling of the Covid pandemic, and the Democrats spend money on Ukraine but not on their own working class voters.

      They have slapped all working class and most middle class American citizens right in the wallet, and are now telling us that we are bad people if we object. They have lost all credibility with everyone on the left who has any integrity whatsoever.

      If you want to continue to support Democrats, I can’t stop you. But you can’t call yourself antiwar or leftist ever again, because you’re not. You are a supporter of kleptocratic imperialism, and you have no moral high ground to stand on.

      On the bright side, there are opportunities here for American populists of widely different ideologies to come together in various forms of direct action to oppose what Thomas Jefferson would call a tyrannical government, but I’ve got family and household Things To Do so that will have to wait for another day.

      Thank you for reading and have a nice night.

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      Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

      The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.--Julius Nyerere

    • #487934
      JonLP
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      It is up to Russia how long the war lasts. This isn’t like a conflict where if you pull the US out that ends the war.  There are some Republicans that won’t support anything Biden supports the baby formula vote is an example of that. I doubt it is because they are anti-war but I will say the MAGA party are not as hawkish as neo-cons.

      I disagree Trump has outflanked the Democrats. He’s not even in office so we’ll have to see what he does if he is elected again but his major achievement was tax cuts for the rich.

      I will continue to support the more progressive Democrats and will probably favor the Democrat over the Republican in Arizona races. The state GOP is too crazy for me.

      Let this radicalize you rather than lead you to despair - Mariame Kaba

      Like many public systems, GOP want to rip the battery out + say the whole car doesn’t work, so they can sell it for parts - AOC

      • #487944
        djean111
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        be okay with the 30-odd bio-weapons labs?  To be okay with US-financed Nazis killing Russian speakers and any opposing political party members?  Nope.  And the US is coldly and deliberately prolonging the war and laundering many billions of dollars through it.  Just like the Bidens have been doing to the Ukraine for many years.  A vastly corrupt edifice now, the Democrats.  All the Vote For the Blue sophistry cannot hide that.

        America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

        "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

        A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

        • #487946
          JonLP
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          They recently torched a civilian village.

          This is what I can find on Donbas

          https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/feb/25/vladimir-putin/putin-repeats-long-running-claim-genocide-ukraine/

          Also Russia has done their part in destroying the Donbas.

          Im not sure the facts on bio weapons labs but that is an example of what I meant when I saw the anti war left go from Saddam doesn’t have WMDs to Ukraine has WMDs.

           

           

          Let this radicalize you rather than lead you to despair - Mariame Kaba

          Like many public systems, GOP want to rip the battery out + say the whole car doesn’t work, so they can sell it for parts - AOC

          • #487949
            djean111
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            “Torched a village” sounds so much like propaganda it is actually almost amusing, except for the subject matter.  About what I would expect from Politifiction.  Looks to me like the Russians are trying to spare civilians; they could have gone for shock and awe like the US does.  the Azov Nazis, though, use civilians as human shields.  Else, for instance, that Azov steelworks could have just been flattened and pancaked quite a while ago.  And the Nazis do like to put weapons and ammunition next to civilians.

            The UN had already advised Ukraine to get rid of dangerous pathogens in those labs, and Hunter Biden had his usual million-dollar-grubbing hands in financing those labs.

            In any event, I think efforts to put lipstick on the Democratic Party pig, at least here at JPR, is a waste of cosmetics.

            America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

            "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

            A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

      • #487951
        Dunatus
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        The Democrats are shoveling more money to Ukraine ‘defence’ contractors than it would take to end homelessness and cancel student debt with money to spare. That is what you’re voting for. That and the party that has done fuck all to support the women’s rights and to support working people in a pandemic.

    • #487940
      jbnw
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      Well expressed.

      I’m very glad my dad, a WW II Navy and Pearl Harbor veteran, didn’t live to see this travesty.


      @jonlp
      , it’s not just up to Russia how long this war lasts. It’s also up to Ukrainians – they’re the people who are fighting and dying for it. The professional Ukrainian Army, what remains of it, is being reinforced by untrained conscripts from the Territorial Defense Force, which didn’t even exist on December 31, 2021. There’s a petition to stop the forced conscription of males between 18 and 60 (yes, that’s the age range). I think if you could find enough Ukrainians still in Ukraine you would likely not find full support for the US/West war against Russia being fought on Ukrainian land by Ukrainians. Many Ukrainians would like to at least have their family members when this is over and prefer not to have their country economically and physically destroyed, however it ends.

      • #487959
        Ohio Barbarian
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        They are not getting essential supplies, and are being slowly squeezed by better-equipped, better-armed Russians and militias from the two little republics. Or so some reports say.

        It’s probably true. Plus, a lot of the weapons being shipped to Ukraine require weeks or months of training; time the Ukrainians simply don’t have.

        Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

        The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.--Julius Nyerere

        • #487971
          jbnw
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          The DPR/LPR/Russians have always been limited with their comments (more from DPR/Chechens). There used to be more from Ukrainians, but more of that has been shut down to Zelensky/Kyiv can better control the information available to all Ukrainians and the West.

          There’s still some, but if you see the videos you’ll notice that the bottom of the videos are blurred so the location of the video cannot be identified – at least, I believe that’s the reason.

          Neither the Ukrainians nor the DPR/LPR/Russians post the number of Ukrainian prisoners taken or “irretrievable.” I hate to think what those counts are going to be later.

    • #487950
      Dunatus
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      Thanks for posting.

    • #487953
      Passionate Progressive
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      The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....Martin Luther King '63

      It takes all the technical proficiency our system can provide to make up for the woeful lack of popular support and political savvy of most of the regimes that the West has thus far sought to prop up.........Bernard Fall

    • #487974
      3fingerbrown
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      ‘Brief note to Ukrainians: You are far from the first people to be grist for the mill of US imperial profit. Those American politicians don’t give a shit about you. The sooner you figure this out the better off you will be’. This can be said about every country on earth when it comes to relations with America.

      All governments lie to their citizen's, but only Americans believe theirs.

    • #487980
      Two way street
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      The politicians would not even allow a minimum wage adjustment; the schillers.

      2020-2024 Campaign Season: We the People are in the fight for our lives and livelihoods.

      • #488002
        Ohio Barbarian
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        This is the sort of shit governments do that really pisses their people off and is never forgotten. Future actions or inactions by the government will be tied to this. Billions for Ukraine while Americans are losing money every day because of inflation.

        Before the first American Revolution, there’s an excellent reason some British laws were called Intolerable Acts. We’re seeing an Intolerable Act right now. Trump did nothing this infuriating to as many people.

        Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

        The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.--Julius Nyerere

        • #488025
          Voltairine
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          does not mean “losing money”. It means there’s too much money in the system, so people lose purchasing power.

          Sorrry for the nitpick. And thanks for a good read! 🙂

          Aloha!

          • #488035
            Ohio Barbarian
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            We are losing purchasing power then. Power to purchase things like food, clothing and shelter.

            Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

            The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.--Julius Nyerere

            • #488159
              Voltairine
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              On the other hand, if you have tons of debt – like the financial class does – then inflation is nice.

              Aloha!

    • #488021
      closeupready
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      I would STILL not be voting for Biden.

      And as a reminder, Joe Biden himself encouraged his critics in 2020 to “vote for Trump”. So there’s that.

      The opinions and personal views expressed herein are solely those of the author, and should never be taken seriously.

      • #488032
        djean111
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        for a Democrat.  I cannot believe a word from any of them.  Also fuck incrementalism.  It is the party apparatus that runs things, and the apparatus is corrupt.  The cynicism in saying that the Dems are the lesser of two evils is astounding.

        America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

        "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

        A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

        • #488036
          Ohio Barbarian
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          The Dems’ lesser of two evils argument no longer works for them. They are in serious trouble, and deservedly so.

          Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

          The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.--Julius Nyerere

          • #488043
            closeupready
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            first, the two political parties share many similarities, and second, the PRI has failed so spectacularly and deservedly as a direct result of the same errors which the Democratic Party has committed.

            Apparently, the Democratic Party is headed in the same direction. Latino support for the Democratic Party has cratered to something like 26%, black American support is 59%, and these numbers are historic lows compared to the same numbers at the same point in time historically for the President’s party.

            The opinions and personal views expressed herein are solely those of the author, and should never be taken seriously.

            • #488057
              Ohio Barbarian
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              Look at their names. Institutional Revolutionary Party. How can a political party be both institutional and revolutionary at the same time? Talk about promising everything to everybody!

              The Democratic Party has proven itself to be authoritarian, not democratic, in how its candidates are selected and in how its money is spent. It should be more properly known as the Authoritarian Liberal Party, and in a truly democratic multiparty system they would get 10% of the vote if they were lucky.

              And the PRI was so corrupt that Mexicans simply stopped voting for them, and new political parties arose from the ashes.

              Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

              The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.--Julius Nyerere

            • #488058
              Ohio Barbarian
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              They hate him, and they have every reason to do so. Kids are still in cages, things are worse on immigration, AND the economy sucks! Why should Latinos, are any other working class ethnic group, vote for Democrats?

              Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

              The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.--Julius Nyerere

        • #488042
          closeupready
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          ever again, even if voting becomes mandatory and it’s between ONLY a Democrat and someone else. Because if I have a pulse, there’s always the option of defying the mandate.

          The opinions and personal views expressed herein are solely those of the author, and should never be taken seriously.

          • #488101
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            In which case women could end up to be mandated to wear head to toe burqas when out in public.
            Not all people running for public office are wing-nut extremists like this Eric clown in Missouri.
            Black & White solutions seldom work out well. The proper, working solution is usually in the grey area somewhere.

            We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
            If Row vs. Wade is overturned, women could lose the right to not get pregnant in 26 states.
            The Republicans are four year olds. The Democrats are six year olds. There are no grownups.
            Truth is not what you want it to be; it is what it is, and you must bend to its power or live a lie.
            Miyamoto Musashi

            • #488107
              djean111
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              the private corporation they work for determines what actually happens. Voting for good intentions, knowing that, seems rather pointless.   Plus that lesser evil variation is not going to work this time around, methinks.

              America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

              "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

              A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

              • #488136
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                Well not voting for the corrupt oligarchs helpers is the purple thing to do.  Why should I vote in this corrupt system brought to you in large part by bill Clinton and Ronald Raygun. Then added onto by the bush cartel. Then finished off by the cia’s own obummer. Tump was out for trump and Biden is brain dead and so we have rule by corporations, who love war. Chevron, Black rock Raytheon Chase Boeing Lockheed WP NYT . Why do you think both houses voted for 40 billion to go to Ukraine?  We all know little to none of it will actually go to Ukraine.  It will make it’s first stop at the above corporation, then it will go to buy off a few more Ukrainian Oligarchs and the Big Pharma oligarchs.  I seriously doubt a dime will make it to Ukraine. As the Oligarchs are certainly not in there.  Some of it will likely go to ISIS to get them to go to Ukraine.  I would vote for all of congress to go to Ukraine and fight the Russians, take with them all the staff of the cia nsa. And board members of the above corporations.  Give them some useless world war to weapons and have at it!

                Earthartist

                • #488212
                  MizzGrizz
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                  If our senile old crock and Pooty-Poot want a  war,let them fight it.Have a duel or something.Loser gets the Ukraine.

            • #488108
              Ohio Barbarian
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              @closeupready implied no such thing. Shame on you.

              I’ll tell you something, though. I am going to seriously consider voting for JD Vance for Senate. The Democrat is Tim Ryan, and I truly loathe that man. Club for Growth, OTOH, really hates Vance, which must mean he has some redeeming social qualities.

              Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

              The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.--Julius Nyerere

              • #488131
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                They are not the same.

                We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
                If Row vs. Wade is overturned, women could lose the right to not get pregnant in 26 states.
                The Republicans are four year olds. The Democrats are six year olds. There are no grownups.
                Truth is not what you want it to be; it is what it is, and you must bend to its power or live a lie.
                Miyamoto Musashi

                • #488138
                  Earthartist
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                  Apparently they both love slaughtering people in other countries. They could give a flying fuck about rights of us lowly creatures, they could give a crap about schools infrastructure, healthcare, and they both love to use their power to gut free speech. So what is the difference?

                  Earthartist

                  • #488153
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                    Democrats and Republicans? Not much, they work hand in hand for the very upper crust, our owners, not the rest of us. They choose who we get to vote for, which doesn’t give us much choice. So we have an Alzheimer’s patient and an incompetent, also ran in the #1 & #2 spots.
                    The Democrats are anything but liberal. The government of this country is Far Right, into wing-nut territory.

                    We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
                    If Row vs. Wade is overturned, women could lose the right to not get pregnant in 26 states.
                    The Republicans are four year olds. The Democrats are six year olds. There are no grownups.
                    Truth is not what you want it to be; it is what it is, and you must bend to its power or live a lie.
                    Miyamoto Musashi

              • #488177
                Jim Lane
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                @ohiobarbarian

                Tim Ryan isn’t my favorite politician, but he did at least vote against the Trump tax cuts, a multitrillion-dollar handout to the rich (link). So, two questions: (1) Has J. D. Vance taken a position on that issue? (2) Is the answer to the first question something that you would take into account in deciding how to vote?

                I do know Vance’s position on reproductive rights, namely opposition. He believes that a woman who is raped should be forced to bear her rapist’s child. (link) Ryan voted in favor of the Women’s Health Protection Act (link).

                • #488180
                  Ohio Barbarian
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                  Since I no longer have faith that my vote will be counted accurately anyway, it’s hard for me to take voting seriously anymore.

                  Vance did say one thing I like–he said he didn’t care about what happened to Ukraine because America First. I’ll have more to say on that little phrase soon.

                  As for abortion, I don’t care anymore. The Democrats had almost 50 years to codify Roe into law, and chose not to do it so they can raise money off of the issue. It’s practically illegal for poor women in half the states now, anyway, and has been for many years. Inflation and living on the brink of nuclear war are far more important to me right now.

                  Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

                  The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.--Julius Nyerere

              • #488213
                MizzGrizz
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                @ohiobarbarian.

                He says he cares about the US more than he does the Ukraine.We need that way of thinking.

            • #488113
              closeupready
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              Nah, voting Democratic is a vote for destruction of a nation of law-abiding citizens who do honest work and have small businesses of all kinds, and who subscribe to the idea, “MY BODY, MY CHOICE”.

              See how that works? It’s the Democratic Party’s fault that Roe v. Wade is poised to be overturned, which it will be. They’ve had 50 years to codify it. Yet … nothing.

              No. Not voting Democratic any longer. Period.

              The opinions and personal views expressed herein are solely those of the author, and should never be taken seriously.

              • #488134
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                Besides not voting, which is what the Republicans want.

                Just so you and everyone else knows, I vote for the person. So I usually vote for the new, also rans, which are usually running independently. And no, I do not vote conservative, or neoliberal in either party. I also know both political parties are corrupt to the core.

                We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
                If Row vs. Wade is overturned, women could lose the right to not get pregnant in 26 states.
                The Republicans are four year olds. The Democrats are six year olds. There are no grownups.
                Truth is not what you want it to be; it is what it is, and you must bend to its power or live a lie.
                Miyamoto Musashi

                • #488146
                  djean111
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                  ceremonial, isn’t it?  When it comes to having an effect on What Really Happens.  You are voting for good intentions that the party machine just chews up and spits out.  IMO, the Dems would not pass Social Security or Medicare if they were bought up for a vote today. Bernie would make some stirring speeches, though.

                  America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

                  "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

                  A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

                • #488148
                  closeupready
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                  I took time to think about this thread (which is ultimately why I love JPR – people here challenge me to really think things through). That very question, if not Democrat, how to vote?

                  I remember from when I was a child, family members would talk amongst each other, ‘you can’t not vote; people have died to secure that right for American citizens like you and me.’ I always agreed, but it’s a bit like Catholic dogma: we can hold beliefs for many reasons (indoctrination as children, for example), but our beliefs can be simple or complicated, and they will evolve.

                  Lysistrata is a Greek play about a woman who campaigns to end war by persuading women to refuse sexual relations with men until peace breaks out.

                  Likewise, if I were a playwright, I’d write a play about an American Democratic voter who persuades other Democratic voters to boycott the elections (or write in a specific candidate, like “No More War!” or “This is a Mickey Mouse Election”) until … peace breaks out/student debt is forgiven/Roe v. Wade is codified/whatever. THAT is most certainly a vote.

                  So that might be an option which I will pursue.

                  The opinions and personal views expressed herein are solely those of the author, and should never be taken seriously.

            • #488114
              djean111
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              are merely campaign pandering rhetoric for the Democrats.  Like, say, your use of that meme right here.  If the campaign contribution was big enough, IMO, Pelosi would have a photo op wearing a designer burqua.

              America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

              "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

              A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

              • #488135
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                They have a list that includes outlawing birth control, no exception for abortion, including the death penalty for abortion.

                We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
                If Row vs. Wade is overturned, women could lose the right to not get pregnant in 26 states.
                The Republicans are four year olds. The Democrats are six year olds. There are no grownups.
                Truth is not what you want it to be; it is what it is, and you must bend to its power or live a lie.
                Miyamoto Musashi

                • #488139
                  Earthartist
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                  And what have the Ds done to prevent this?

                  Earthartist

                • #488145
                  djean111
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                  stop them.  It is just campaign material for the Dems, they won’t try and stop that sort of thing now, when they are “in power”.  Hey, look at the bright side – even though much of JPR knows Biden is a corrupt senile warmongering austerity-loving neoliberal neocon, he got elected anyway.  As we have been told by another VFTB, JPR is just a tiny bump on a tiny bump on a log.

                  America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

                  "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

                  A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

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      I will be writing in Ralph Nader until I die or in the off chance somebody better comes along.

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