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  • #247149

    David the Gnome
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    In every way that matters, they have failed the American people.  The Republicans, of course, have also done so – arguably even more so than the democrats, but it is not a difference of great magnitude.  Plenty of democrats would ask me how I can say that with a straight face.  Didn’t Obama pass the ACA?  Didn’t he try to stop the Iraq war?  Didn’t he create more transparency in government and get us out of the great recession?  All of this and more – some have argued, even recently, that he was one of the most successful Presidents in history.  Pardon my cynical laugh and extended middle finger, but…

    What were we promised by Obama when he was a candidate for the Presidency?  Greater transparency in government was one – does anyone feel like we have that now?  He did get an award for it – in a meeting behind closed doors, of course.  Healthcare for everyone – did we get that?  How about that public option we were repeatedly told was going to happen?  Well, no – and do you know who got blamed?  Supposed fake democrats who voted against the ACA, nevermind what their reasons were.  Republicans obstructionists – who, lets be honest, were always going to obstruct, no matter what the democrats attempted.  At least, in public, they would be seen to.  In truth, the two parties work together… against us.

    How about ending the Iraq war?  How about bringing troops home?  Well, no.  The CIA “meddled” in Syria and created a brand new conflict.  This was under his watch.  Protection for whistle blowers?  I don’t know – was Snowden exonerated?  Did he even feel safe staying in the US to possibly face trial?  Nope – he sacrificed his citizenship and his American life to expose the truth – and the American media and political body thanked him by calling for his death – because they were always the ones signing off on mass surveillance.  Obama – the others, they were never going to protect whistle blowers.

    So, let us recount all the ways…

    The Iraq war, the Patriot Act, the NDAA – year after year, homeland security, military funding – cutting funding for what remains of our safety net, failing to advance any meaningful infrastructure projects.  See, it has not mattered which party happened to be “in charge” at the time, because they are run by the same people – the same billionaires.  The Koch brothers, Soros, Warren Buffet, the Rockefellers, the global oligarchy with bottomless pockets that controls trillions of dollars in fake money – and by fake, I mean it has nothing behind it.

    So, what else?  Forgetting about our beloved Nobel Peace Prize winner for the moment – what have democrats done during the time of Trump?  What, if anything, is worthy of note?  Well, let’s see… they obliterated the regulatory protections (which, lets be honest, weren’t much) that were referred to as the Dodd-Frank.  They failed to prevent trillions of dollars in tax breaks for the ultra wealthy and corporations – with some democrats like Joe Manchin whining in public about how they would have been happy to go along, if only they had been consulted.

    They have supposedly been fighting to protect the ACA – well, guess what?  They failed.  Even though, to begin with, the ACA was shitty legislation.  For one thing – it was – and remains unconstitutional to enforce an individual mandate for citizens to purchase private insurance.  This was where a public option was supposed to come in.

    We have the NDAA/s of the last several years, democrats voted overwhelmingly in favor.  The military budgets, authorization for use of force, weapons sales and so on and so forth – all very bipartisan stuff, you know.  In 2010, the democrats had an opportunity to turn things around.  Not only did they fail – they didn’t even try.  If anything, Obama’s republican lite policies slowly but surely advanced the destruction of our safety net, educational system (read about charter schools, Rahm Emanuel, etc.), advanced the wars in the middle east (drone assassination programs), continued to expand the mass surveillance state….

    I could go on and on – and it is not because I hate democrats.  I hate that people have been betrayed and lied to, over and over again for the entirety of my life.  I hate that I am watching the crumbling of our Country, its infrastructure, its military, its political governance, its international relations.  I hate that I have seen the media become ever more toxic, politically biased – and corporate owned.  I despise the oligarchy that buys our politicians – but I despise the politicians even more for being so easy to buy.

    So, when someone tells me to vote blue no matter who – or suggests that we can’t primary democrats because that would give the republicans an edge… the urge to grab them and shake them (though I refrain) is overwhelming.  No.  Yes, Congress impeached Trump… yay!  Around the same time though, they voted to authorize the NDAA, continued mass surveillance (the collection – and sale of the data and metadata of, well, everyone – think all the “security mishaps” with our information were mistakes?  Heh), enormous military funding – all of which gives us every reason to continue our forever wars.  Weapons are made to be used, when you spend hundreds of billions or trillions of dollars to buy more every year, they will continue to be used – and the longer this goes on, the more it becomes the new normal.  Almost twenty years now, of the new normal.

    So tell me… someone, where is the resistance?  What is it?  In what way has it been effective in improving our lives, or even diminishing the damage being done by the republicans?  What happened in 2016 when a democrat in the style of FDR ran for office?  Is it true, or false, that the media worked against him?  Is it true, or false, that the DNC used the overwhelming majority of all of it’s funding to support Clinton?  Is it true or false that the Clinton campaign and the DNC spent nearly 1 billion dollars on just five consultants?

    So, no, it is not a choice between good, noble democrats and vicious, evil republicans.  It is a choice between brands, Pepsi or Coke, or the diet versions?  They even took the aspartame out of a few!

    I’ll vote for Bernie Sanders – but not because he is a democrat.  That is a point against him.  I will vote for Bernie Sanders, because despite being a democrat (which was basically forced on him if he wanted to run for President effectively) – he is a good human being.  Do you know how many of those remain in government?  It would not require two hands to count them.  That is what we have come to, what America has become, over and over we vote for the representatives we get – and over and over, they show us who they represent.  The corporations, the wealthiest of the wealthy, the haves and the have mores.  Over and over again, we are shown who they despise – most of us.  Obliterating public education, infrastructure, “reforming” welfare, defunding social security (administratively and otherwise), food stamps, back to work programs, hell, you name it.

    So, no, I’m not a democrat.  I hate that I have to register as one to vote for Bernie in the primaries, I hate that he had to register as one to have any chance at the nomination.  What I am is a human being – and I make no claims to being good, only to being aware that they are all screwing us.  We are increasingly at their mercy.  Our rights to anything resembling privacy, in fact, pretty much all of our civil rights – were sold when the patriot act passed, many years ago.  Any one of us can be held in indefinite detention – for any reason – or none at all.  Any of us can be tortured in a prison, for any reason, or none at all.  Any one of us can have our votes purged (ask NYC) for any reason… or none at all.

    I am at the end of my rope with the political game.  I am putting every bit of optimism and hope I’ve got left in Bernie Sanders – because, over and over again, he is the only one who seems to be telling the despicable truth.  Should he fail, should we see a repeat of 2016, then I do not think there will remain a reason to hope.  I will give up on politics.  I will move if I can, I will be done believing the system can be changed from within.  That leaves precious few options for change.  Either we stay and suffer as the decay continues, we leave – and hope another Nation will prove more sane (shouldn’t be too hard)… or… we stay and fight.  What, though, would we be fighting for?  If that long predicted and oft warned of civil war begins, do you think it will be started by people who genuinely love freedom and democracy?  I don’t.  I think it will be conservatives of both parties – the sort who have nearly all the money and guns.  The sort that own the police, the politicians – and damn near everything else.

    As the democrats have failed, so, too, has our fledgling experiment with democracy.  Our system cannot even properly be called a Republic, rather, it is an oligarchy, sliding further and further away from anything decent or real – with every passing year, with every passing vote.

    So, I’ll say as a friend of mine likes to say… Bernie, because fuck this shit.

  • #247153

    Ohio Barbarian
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    We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.--Franklin Delano Roosevelt

    With Bernie Sanders, we have the receipts. --Nina Turner

  • #247154

    David the Gnome
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    Amen.  Perfect timing bro. :)

  • #247158

    elias39
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    Excellent rant David!

  • #247159

    ThouArtThat
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    @davidthegnome

    Hi david,

    Yep – some of the many reasons that America is Dead.  We can all pretend the desiccating corpse is still twitching or that resuscitation will magically transform the cold carcass into something animate and real.  While the form and trappings may seem tangible, with one poke of a stick it all collapses into dust to be swept away in the wind as nothing but failed dreams and bitter illusions.  The sooner we stop propping the mannequin against the wall, the sooner we can move on to building something better.  Anything less leaves us clinging to a chimera of fantasies.

    TAT

    PS to the OP – And probably the Coup de Grace politically – Citizen’s United – Where’s the outrage?

    "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
    - John F. Kennedy

    "In a Time of Universal Deceit - Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act."
    - George Orwell

    "They must find it difficult ... Those who have taken authority as the truth,
    Rather than truth as the authority."
    - Gerald Massey

    "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
    - Jiddu Krishnamurti

    “Wisdom tells me I am nothing. Love tells me I am ever

  • #247163

    Charles
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    I won’t argue against the failures of the Democratic party. Everyone knows that corporate America has hooks in the party and that the entrenchment runs deep. I would argue though that Bernie has spent decades working towards getting progressive policies in place as an independent and has had limited success at best.

    Bernie is now advocating transforming the Democratic party and in a few short years he’s made some excellent progress. We now have more progressives than ever running as Democrats. These are true progressives Like AOC who are worthy of our support.

    People can either choose to support Bernie in his effort to transform a corrupt party (that already has a decent amount of progressives in it) and work to make the party as a whole progressive or they can choose to look elsewhere for progressive change. Currently there’s not much else out there. So for now I’m sticking with Bernie and his efforts to make the Democratic party a vehicle for change.

    Having Bernie win the presidency but lacking support from a strong progressive coalition in congress within the Dem party will prove to be a hollow victory. Progressive politics will only succeed if the people get behind it in a major way. So far Bernie has some great momentum within the Democratic party. It’s not enough and much more needs to happen. But with no other vehicle for change on the horizon Bernie’s choice of transforming the party makes a lot of sense.

    If people have other solutions that will provide progressive change quicker it would be great to hear them. Perhaps another party will emerge and gain momentum. Currently though all the progressive momentum and success is occurring in the Dem party thanks to Bernie’s leadership

     

     

     

     

     

    Bernie: "Not Me. Us"

    • #247168

      ThouArtThat
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      @charles

      Hi charles,

      Yep – clinging to anything hopeful is normal human behavior.  Truth is Bernie is the best option we have in 2020 to slow the accelerating disintegration of America.  That said, some of us have no illusions about Bernie’s ability to reverse the course America has been on for decades.  Reversing the damage already done would take 20 sequential Bernie Administrations.  And even then, as each additional closet is opened, new skeletons would emerge to thwart substantive progress.  And with the existential threat of Climate Change, as a species and as a country, we have officially run out of time.

      TAT

      "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
      - John F. Kennedy

      "In a Time of Universal Deceit - Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act."
      - George Orwell

      "They must find it difficult ... Those who have taken authority as the truth,
      Rather than truth as the authority."
      - Gerald Massey

      "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
      - Jiddu Krishnamurti

      “Wisdom tells me I am nothing. Love tells me I am ever

  • #247164

    GZeusH
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    “Resistance” is giving Trump everything he wants, and then going “Tut, tut, he should have consulted us.”

  • #247170

    David the Gnome
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    @charles

    “Currently though all the progressive momentum and success is occurring in the Dem party thanks to Bernie’s leadership”

    Exactly.  This is why both parties are so eager to bring him down, why even Obama has spoken of doing everything he can to stop Bernie.  This is why the crap that happened in 2016 happened – and they got away with it.  Bernie is one person – true, he has inspired a progressive movement – and true, he has inspired other progressives to join the cause, even the rare politician.  What happens to an army though, if the general is removed?  What happens to a movement for peace, progress, and civil rights… for greater economic equality, when someone like Martin Luther King is killed?  When JFK promised to rip the CIA to pieces, what shortly followed?

    This is what we must be on guard against.  They have attempted political chicanery, lies, bribes, threats and so on and so forth – to smear and defeat Bernie.  So far, that has all failed.  So what happens if he becomes a genuine threat to the oligarchy?  The democratic nominee?  Or even President?  After all, he already had one heart attack right?  So what’s a second?  I have no doubt that there are, right now, several people and organizations thinking about how best to remove him.  If it comes to it, they will not hesitate to use violence.  No doubt they would prefer not to – as it would be obvious, but if Bernie represents a threat to them (and he does) what will people who control trillions of dollars do?

    That is among the threats to the progressive movement.  It has been tried before, with varying levels of success, but in nearly every instance, its leader/s died an early death, usually to an assassin’s bullet.  They prefer not to get their hands dirty, but if they must…

    So, it is my hope that Bernie – and those who follow or may yet follow him, are on their guard.  I really hope Bernie has a damn good security team – and I hope that they cannot be bribed or blackmailed.  I really hope that there is not already some sort of program that already makes Bernie’s Presidency impossible.  Remember, they have purged hundreds of thousands, even millions of votes.  The electronic voting machines are easy to hack, so the integrity of our electoral system cannot be trusted – even without counting the electoral college and the “super delegates”.

    It was always going to be one hell of an uphill battle.  So it is.  So it will almost certainly remain.  There are good people involved in the struggle, but as always, they are opposed by those who value wealth and power above all things.  As always, those who value such things above all else are excellent manipulators, actors, people quietly pulling a thousand different strings.  As always, we are outgunned – and not just by a little bit.

    I want to believe in our victory – I do believe that progressive victory is our best chance at a better future.  I just am not sure if the system is already too broken to even permit it to happen.  If the democrat party, or the Republican party, are examples to go by…

    • #247178

      ThouArtThat
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      Hi David,

      Well said.  Like yourself and Charles, I will vote for Bernie if given the opportunity to do so.  And I will continue to contribute $27 every month until it no longer makes sense.  All that said, this citizen has no illusions about the powerful forces that will oppose Bernie at every turn.  Just remember the opposition Obama faced and multiply that by a million should Bernie become President.  Our current political travails will be officially elevated to the highest order of Kabuki Theater as the Oligarchs, Corporations and Banks mount a full frontal assault against all progressive reform.  And in that political atmosphere and tempest of struggle, even darker forces will stop at nothing to retain their grasp of power.  Such is the depth of depravity to which America has descended.

      As author Jim Kunstler so aptly notes – “In America today, Nothing matters and Anything goes.”

      TAT

      "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
      - John F. Kennedy

      "In a Time of Universal Deceit - Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act."
      - George Orwell

      "They must find it difficult ... Those who have taken authority as the truth,
      Rather than truth as the authority."
      - Gerald Massey

      "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
      - Jiddu Krishnamurti

      “Wisdom tells me I am nothing. Love tells me I am ever

  • #247176

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    Kicked and recommended!

    I would like to remind you that U.S. health insurance companies do not contribute anything to health care. They are only a PARASITIC middle man receiving an undeserved cut of "FREE MONEY".

    Me

  • #247181

    David the Gnome
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    I fear that you are right – and I do not know how we can resist such forces.  Some times… I don’t know if its paranoia or whatever, but some times I wonder if posts like ours are being read, watched.  I wonder if a future approaches in which the likes of you and I will be arrested for what we say here.  I apologize that I once called you a pessimist.  The truth is not pessimism, it simply is.

    The years go by – and instead of growing more hopeful, more optimistic… my knowledge of world events continues to suck all that stuff right out of me.  I have considered abandoning politics, attempting to live a life of deliberate ignorance – but then I think of all of those who already do so, who are so caught up in the D VS R kabuki.  Knowledge… truth, it requires us to pay a price in suffering.  I pay it in the hopes that my children and grandchildren will not have to pay quite as much – but I fear that, if anything, they will pay even more.  Begging the pardon of all for my negativity or whatever it is, but I never said I was terribly sane or rational.  To be such, in this modern world… I don’t know how.

    Some say that we cannot control events – only our reaction to them.  If this is so, then I never quite figured out how to do that well.

    • #247190

      ThouArtThat
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      Hi David,

      Yep – I do understand those sentiments and feelings.  I lost my Naivete about America in 2004 while working on a Congressional campaign in Dallas, TX.  I vowed to never blindly follow any party or politician after that experience.  Additional historical events since then have only galvanized those convictions.

      I continue to pry open the craniums of others with facts and information.  And in that effort, a new ploy seems to be effective when talking politics and policy.  I simply ask, “which America do you believe in?”  When others extol their America, whatever version it may be, counter examples roll swiftly to expose flimsy reasoning and smug assumptions.  If nothing else it gives pause to the idea that maybe, just maybe, the country some so strongly defend is not what it appears to be.  And in that pause of daylight, a new cognitive dissonance may begin to set and stew.

      With respect to political dissonance and state repression, I have little left to lose.  I am already a political prisoner of The Global Company Store (aka capitalism) so becoming an official enemy of the state is not a stretch.  Should some deem an old man with frail bones and greying hair a threat, then that would be explicit proof The Emperor Has No Clothes.

      TAT

      "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
      - John F. Kennedy

      "In a Time of Universal Deceit - Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act."
      - George Orwell

      "They must find it difficult ... Those who have taken authority as the truth,
      Rather than truth as the authority."
      - Gerald Massey

      "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
      - Jiddu Krishnamurti

      “Wisdom tells me I am nothing. Love tells me I am ever

  • #247182

    salemcourt
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    It would have been great to see the Democrats add the Trump bombing of the Suleiman to their articles of impeachment.  However, I am not sure if they are against the bombing as a matter of principle.  The exception being Bernie Sanders.  Even Elizabeth Warren starts out by condemning Suleiman thereby excusing Trump before she says that it is a wrong strategy.

  • #247185

    MizzGrizz
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    David,you have said it all—and said it eloquently and well.You speak for me.

  • #247200

    A Simple Game
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    Excellent essay David, I give you an A+,  I just found fault with one small point.

    but I despise the politicians even more for being so easy to buy.

    Here let me fix it for you.

    but I despise the politicians even more for begging to be bought.

    I wonder how they must feel seeing Bloomberg spend $100 million on his campaign in one week and they can be bought for mere thousands?  It must be terrible feeling so cheap, will the cost of owning a politician be going up soon?

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    K’n’R for the Daily Radical! https://www.democraticunderground.com/emoticons/patriot.gif

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  • #247461

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    If you took away the Democratic (or Republican) party, the people in the American Congress would still fail their constituents (with the exception of people like Senator Sanders, AOC etc). The reason, it seems to me, is ACCOUNTBILITY (or rather, its lack thereof). Its the old ‘who will bell the cat’ thing. Your founding fathers, well-intentioned though they were; had no answer for the conundrum of how you ensure an unbiased judiciary system. Indeed, no one in the rest of the world has an answer for this. The result ? .. questionable decisions and corruption are allowed to flourish and, in the US; this corruption has grown to gigantic proportions. The separation of Judiciary and Executive powers needs to be a thing because without it no accountability occurs.

    Having said the above, I do think that the election of Senator Sanders to the Presidency will be a watershed moment in US history because it will usher in the opportunity for responsible government of the people, by the people etc. and it will change the TENOR of US administrations (for at least a couple of generations) and that can only be a good thing.

  • #247469

    The Red Menace
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    The Democrats didn’t fail, @davidthegnome

     

    The democrats never even tried.

  • #247495

    sadoldgirl
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    @davidthegnome:

    No, the Dems have not failed, on the contrary. I don’t

    know how far this goes back. What I do know is that FDR

    was considered a traitor to his class, and there was a serious

    effort to get rid of him. The party got rid of Henry Wallace

    to replace him with the pliable tool Truman. So the PTB

    already then were part of the Dems. The best maneuver

    was to make sure that there was an acceptance by the

    people that there were really two opposition parties, which

    was a lie. It still is a lie. We have one party period. The

    differences are designed to divide us, and they have. It

    is money, and thereby power that rules. Obama was very

    carefully chosen, while Gravel was ridiculed. Socialism

    became the devil and peace considered a weakness. And

    this has not changed for decades, because the nation was

    indoctrinated with the US glory and its exceptionalism.

  • #247498

    chknltl
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    So who would fight against Medicare For All the hardest?

    Republicans in Congress or Democrats in Congress?

    Frankly, I see them both as two sides of the same coin, they would work together against M4A.

    The Republicans would vote against it at 100% and the Dems would find just enough Nay votes to kill the Bill.

  • #247499

    Cold Mountain Trail
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    “the nation was  indoctrinated with the US glory and its exceptionalism.”

    i think the us is not so exceptional in having that sort of national myth — that there is something exceptional about this nation/people that makes them more important/superior to others.  it may not lie so close to the surface as it does with americans (in their power & historical isolationignorance about others) but its there — imho.

    the main difference is power.

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