The difference between the support for the government of Ukraine and Ukrainians

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      jbnw
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      It occured to me today that one of the reasons for the long delay in getting my family from Ukraine/Poland to the US is the requirement to be fully vaccinated for coronavirus to enter the US.

      In Ukraine, getting a vaccination was not simple. It was done in Poland – and even there, only the Pfizer vaccine was available, with a required three week delay between two shots. Johnson & Johnson was not an option – so there’s a five week delay right there.

      Weapons and support for war? Sure! Let’s send $53 billion or whatever the current total is. But let’s not do anything to help Ukrainians – like coronavirus vaccines that the US requires.

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      retired liberal
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      Surly you jest. Helping people assures more of us will survive. Our government gets it jollies from death and destruction, world wide.
      Out own government doesn’t help its own citizens here, so why would anyone think they would help the average citizens of any other country?

      We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
      If Row vs. Wade is overturned, women could lose the right to not get pregnant in 26 states.
      The Republicans are four year olds. The Democrats are six year olds. There are no grownups.
      Truth is not what you want it to be; it is what it is, and you must bend to its power or live a lie.
      Miyamoto Musashi

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      Dunatus
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      …in that 53b dollars unless you include the golden parachutes for the nationalists expats that will exit the country asap.

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      Voltairine
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      are / used to be Ukrainians, until the US and nazi coup. Now Russian speaking Ukrainians are being dehumanized and demonized as “orcs” and what not by the Banderista nationalists who have the de facto¬† control of the de jure illegimate Kiev regime.

      Aloha!

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        jbnw
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        think of themselves as Ukrainians. It’s where they were born and raised, including those from the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic.

        One was Svitlana, specifically not Svetlana, as she was Ukrainian, even though Russian was her home language.

        I suspect they will always consider themselves Ukrainians, even if their country disappears thanks to Joe Biden.

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