The disinformation campaign behind the allegations of Russian “disinformation”

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    • #1796
      Ohio Barbarian
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      This is a scathing WSWS take on the kleptocracy’s latest attempt to blame growing social discontent and leftist sentiment in America on Russian propaganda. As the article shows, this is nothing new.

      Amid new exposures of Wall Street criminality, the White House’s mass imprisonment of immigrant children, and growing demands by US workers for decent wages, the US media was preoccupied Monday with the supposed efforts of Russian President Vladimir Putin to make people believe that life in America is not a paradise.

      Throughout the day, the New York Times, the Washington Post and Google News all led with breathless stories about Russian efforts to “sway American opinion and divide the country” (in the words of the Times). The propaganda barrage was based on a set of reports submitted to the Senate Intelligence Committee by organizations with close ties to the US state and intelligence apparatus.

      Like countless other stories about alleged Russian “disinformation,” Monday’s media blast followed a script. Reports and testimony from nominally independent organizations, which are, in reality, mouthpieces for the intelligence agencies, are commissioned by Congress. They are “leaked” to the New York Times, which publishes a front-page article promoting them as “independent,” scientific and authoritative, without, however, presenting any serious analysis of the actual evidence or the social and political forces behind the studies. The reports in the Times (or the Washington Post) are then cited by countless media outlets and politicians as new and irrefutable “evidence” of Russian “meddling” and “fake news.”

      The new “proof” of Russian subversion is then used to demand even more sweeping measures to censor the internet, in the name of securing “our democracy.” With each successive wave of stories, foreign “disinformation” is more directly identified with opposition to social inequality, police brutality and the capitalist system.

      Full article here. 

      https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/12/18/pers-d18.html

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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    • #1800
      Ohio Barbarian
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      The link works! 

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

      • #1817
        David the Gnome
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        Dividing us all!  Buying our politicians!  Screwing with our healthcare, retirement, education! Letting our infrastructure crumble!  Starting illegal wars everywhere!

        Oh wait, that’s us.

        Seriously, I must have heard “Russian meddling” a good dozen times last night. And they’d have gotten away with it too!  If not for that darn FBI!

      • #1871
        mrdmk
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        The “Communist” line started back in the late 1940’s – 50’s against labor unions and civil rights endeavors.

        The New York Times and other publications lost a lot of credibility with the ‘Judy Miller’ stories in the supposed run-up to the Gulf War II. My take on this event was by labeling it, ” The Continuing Gulf War to Ruin”. Being a NYT subscriber back in 2002 – 07, I wrote them a letter detailing how disappointed I was with their war propaganda. The NYT (H. Raines) did read that letter and e-mailed me back with a link to an apology piece which was on page 23 (I know because I had the printed edition). I replied to this e-mail stating how being factual works towards towards being credible and burying an apology piece on page 23 was not going to cut it. Never heard back from NYT. Executive Editor H. Raines left NYT in 2003.

        All that can be said about NYT is they have not changed and are still at it. All that can be said is, do not give up. With that here is a picture.

        If you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit WC Fields

    • #1813
      RufusTFirefly
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      (Seems to be some issues with escaping apostrophes and quotes.)

    • #1820
      jwirr
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      of the changes since 1980 and especially since 9/11. The 1% and their minions cannot have that – they and the rest of the 99% may actually start winning the elections. Or buying yellow jackets.

      jwirr

      • #2297
        OCMI
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        I am tempted to buy one on Amazon just to see what happens.  😀

        The majority of mankind is ground down by industrial oppression in order that the small remnant may live in ease.
        —Helen Keller, 1911

        Joe Biden, you're no Jack Kennedy: "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."—John F Kennedy, 1962

    • #1843
      disillusioned73
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      except for the folks that have already bought into this narrative..

      Here’s a great tweet I came across about it…

      "Certainly there are some people in the Democratic Party who want to maintain the status quo. They would rather go down with the Titanic so long as they have first-class seats”
      - Bernie MotherF@#king Sanders

      • #2324
        disillusioned73
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        I have a 10 pack sitting in one of my wish list folders.. one sign of unrest & I will have them in 2 days & handing them out as needed.. 😉

        "Certainly there are some people in the Democratic Party who want to maintain the status quo. They would rather go down with the Titanic so long as they have first-class seats”
        - Bernie MotherF@#king Sanders

    • #1853
      Ohio Barbarian
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      policies would help them and their kids. They also know Obama didn’t do a damned thing for their standard of living, and while they usually won’t talk about Obama except to compare him to Trump, they don’t want another one.

      They want someone who will at least try to do something. Gee, who does that describe?

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #1911
      sadoldgirl
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      and things that Russia supposedly is using against the West. Quite amusing.

      I printed out a few to show the idiocy of our own propaganda to my neighbors.

    • #2030
      Earthartist
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      the Russian are targeting minorities first thing I heard this morning i almost crashed trying to turn the turds off.

      Earthartist

    • #2407
      Robbins
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      blaming blacks and bernie supporters as idiots fooled by russia to blame clinton’s loss on russia.

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