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    The DLC, Third Way, New Democrat "Filing Cabinet" and information Thread

    The Idea of this post is very simple yet I hope one that will prove effective.

    Madfloridian, bobthedrummer, Manny Goldstein (not to be confuse with third way manny) and I among many others have written OPs to inform those less familiar with the neoliberal infiltration of the Democratic Party via the DLC and other brands it has created for itself for various reasons for some time now.

    Of them all, I consider my contributions to be the least informative, but I did write a good Primer as a basic guide to understanding your unfriendly neighborhood false flag pseudo-Republican “New Democrat”. They are not classic Democrats in that the believe in Reagan economics and only choose to pretend to care about social issues to keep long time allies among traditional constituencies outside of labor.

    They have traded in the basic working and poor people that the party once stood for in exchange for white collar professionals and money donating banks, hedge funders and Corporations as can be evidenced most clearly in the laws they pass and the programs they cut while initiating so called free trade that has proven their abandonment of the blue collar worker. Not to mention welfare reform and many attempts to cut, or work with republicans to weaken our safety net in order to provide tax cuts to their new white collar well heeled constituency they prefer to label “middle class” while never speaking of the poor again that have gone completely undiscussed in their circles beyond considering them as source of prison labor or to label as lazy “welfare queens” to enable cuts.

    If you have posted an OP, new or old, that is extremely enlightening regarding this “new Democrat” group of miscreants, please post it as a root reply to the main op, to be discussed separately via a subthread of that root response. I will start out with my primer OP, while sending out the the word to Madfloridian and bob the drummer and Manny Goldstein to do the same with some of their own OPS many far more detailed than the beginning primer. I would prefer that if the OP is housed elsewhere, one recreates it here as a post rather than link to other sites, The reason for that should be obvious. If your OP links to other OPs on the subject written by you elsewhere, you may temporarily use the link within it, but only until you can recreate the OP linked to as a root response here to link to. It is here we will gather all our information, and here we will discuss it and learn our greatest enemy well, the one running a false flag, unlike the more honorable yet very similar Republicans that at least are not ashamed to “fly their true colors” rather than slither in the shadows of false blue garments while serving only the corporate elite.

    Edited to add, let’s leave our pet Miscreant ”Third Way Manny” out of this, he is only kept around as a mascot of sorts and will no doubt post his usual right wing condescending drivel as responses here from time to time, I find our mascot amusing and hope he does try his usual dastardly Tricks!

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    “We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that has buried its head in the sand, waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and the absence of moral leadership. We must dissent because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better.” Thurgood Marshall


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    • Dragonfli (1351 posts)
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      1. New Democrats, The DLC and the Third Way

      President Bill Clinton with Al From, president of the Democratic Leadership Council, at a conference in 2000.

      New Democrats, in the politics of the United States, are an ideologically centrist faction within the Democratic Party that emerged after the victory of Republican George H. W. Bush in the 1988 presidential election. They are identified with centrist social/cultural/pluralist positions and neoliberal fiscal values. They are represented by organizations such as the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC), the New Democrat Network, and the Senate and House New Democrat Coalitions

      After the landslide electoral losses to Ronald Reagan in the 1980s, a group of prominent Democrats began to believe their party was in need of a radical shift in economic policy and ideas of governance. The Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) was founded in 1985 by Al From and a group of like-minded politicians and strategists. They advocated a political “Third Way” as a method to achieve the electoral successes of Reaganism by adopting similar economic policies (Reagan Democrats and Moderate Republicans would provide burgeoning new constituencies after adding these new economic policies and politicians to our tent they contended) While hoping to retain, women, minorities and other social issues allies with long ties to the party. Such would be their new Democratic coalition forged between fiscal right and social left under the “New” Democratic banner. The DLC disbanded in 2011 during an apparent re-branding of the New Democrat movement when money ties to the Koch bros. and Koch representatives placed on*the DLC’s board embarrassingly became common knowledge among the Democratic left. The DLC is survived by the Third Way, The New Democrat Coalition, and Al From’s Progressive Policy Institute among other corporate funded groups that continue to sell*their Economic-Right/Social-Left brand of “Centrism” to America

      The term Third Way refers to various political positions which try to reconcile right-wing and left-wing politics by advocating a varying synthesis of right-wing economic and left-wing social policies.

      Third Way was created as a serious re-evaluation of political policies within various center-right progressive movements in response to international doubt regarding the economic viability of the state; economic interventionist policies that had previously been popularized by Keynesianism and contrasted with the corresponding rise of popularity for neo liberalism and the New Right. In a sense, 80s Moderate Republicans are almost identical to “Third Way” Democrats.

      I strongly believe it’s time for a serious re-evaluation of political policies within various center-left progressive movements in response to international doubt regarding the economic viability of the neoliberal corporate policies previously popularized by Reagan and Thatcher! For thirty years we have all but abandoned liberal solutions to economic problems, chasing instead the snake oil of supply side economics, austerity and neoliberal trade policy. These right wing policies have failed miserably, and rather than learn from the New Democrats failed experiments, the center-right faction of the democratic party has chosen instead to double down on failure with more free trade and austerity measures (to include cuts to Social Security).

      In the face of a new gilded age of extreme wealth contrasted by an exponentially growing rate of poverty, a rapidly shrinking middle class and the emergence of an elite class of bankers, politicians and other predatory behemoths that are held firmly above the law and enabled to steal the remaining crumbs of wealth held by the masses without repercussion, it is not only time to return to Democratic principles of old that created the strongest most prosperous middle class in our history, it is time to reverse the damage done by the right thinking “New” Democrats and their failed policies with a new populism based on the needs of the people over the elite.

      We do not need a “Fourth Way” to accomplish this, all we need is a return to the fundamentals of Keynesianism, a strong commitment to labor, increased spending on social programs (rather than cuts), progressive taxation, and an end to the cancer of privatization that would reduce the commons and the basic needs of the populace (such as healthcare and drinking water etc.) into the cash cows of profiteers of human suffering

      Time to dump the “Third Way” for the unquestionably effective “Democratic way” made successful by the New Deal, The Great Society, and civil liberties. The Democratic party cannot serve two masters, the choice is clear, they must serve the financial elite, or the economically struggling populace

      My choice has already been made, But if they choose in the end the financial elite, I believe we will have no choice but to work outside the party for change while voting for any Democrat that stands for the old values that may still remain.

      “We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that has buried its head in the sand, waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and the absence of moral leadership. We must dissent because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better.” Thurgood Marshall


      • 2bAnon (4163 posts)
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        12. Excellent primer and analysis, Dragonfly.

        Beautifully written too I might add.   :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:

        :dance: :bananas: :dance: :bananas: :dance:




        • Akallabeth (2234 posts)
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          16. A great many of my posts here and elsewhere on trade in services deals are

          really informative as to what their big picture goals are.



          The trade in services deals are how they are rigging the system to make safety nets impossible for countries and start a raceto the bottom on wages, by mandating that public jobs except a very tiny percentage that pass some very narrow criteria – that most currently stable public jobs as well as any new jobs created by public money/public spending, be put up for bid in a system that will likely award them to huge multinational conglomerates, thinks “SchoolsCo” or “HealthCareCo” paying their embattled Third World originating workers pennies on the dollar of what the wages used to be for skilled professionals who did them previously.. And of course putting millions of skilled people out of work.

          Imagine what it will be like when every infrastructure project creates jobs for other countries, unless US workers could somehow shed their citizenships and become dependent on the special visas that allow foreign corporations to pay their workers whatever they want –

          Because the jobs as it stands now, WILL be put up for international bidding and awarded to the lowest bidder corporations. Its not preordained that those winners will be foreign, just cheap and the wages here make it extremely unlikely or even impossible that domestic firms would win unless no foreign firms decided to compete (which is possible especially at the beginning when they don’t have a presence here yet. But they will.)

          Note, this is NOT an immigration program and I am NOT anti -immigrant, I am pro immigrants- I just dont think that we should create a new form of slavery!@#@!#!


          Thats what they are trying to do and one way to think of it that is not that far from the truth, is that they have set up this extremely sophisticated disinformation scheme in the form of a political campaign and two opposing candidates, to hide  this massive ripoff of Americans futures under tons and tons of noise UNTIL ITS TOO LATE TO FIX IT. Because Carve outs to these deals need to be put into them NOW, soon, like within the next few weeks.

          http://perma.cc/5B5L-YGBP    CorpWatch – Legalizing Human Trafficking
          http://perma.cc/786V-4JPV    Labor Mobility – Economic Analysis – World Bank
          http://perma.cc/8YZD-LNKJ    Service Providers on the Move – OECD
          http://perma.cc/BB3B-M44U    GATS and Public Service Systems
          http://perma.cc/FX35-6M33    Everything we know on health care is wrong- This is a must read includes info on carve outs.  Author suddenly died in 2009 shortly after this was published.

          http://perma.cc/JR2K-WLDY    Maine – Report to State Healthcare GATS and (negs soon to become) TISA block state HCR.
          http://perma.cc/SC6C-VLN3    TiSA vs. Public Services (lots there, read carefully)
          http://perma.cc/SV5V-YRDF    European University Association on TISA and TTIP = threat to very existence of public education
          http://perma.cc/W8T3-G55Y    Oxfam – Concentration of wealth is increasing exponentially
          http://perma.cc/X8SH-S7HW  Canada has similar issues they are dealing with. This also includes info on carve outs.

          "Out of many, one"
          • Dragonfli (1351 posts)
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            17. That perfectly describes the goals and intent of Neoliberalism

            Privatize the commons (or privatize the agencies involved in the common good), destroy the safety nets, create a global race to the bottom while effectively reducing the globe to a single unit of multinational corporate Oligarchical governance of neofeudalism. (governments are but regional management teams in their eyes)

            The Third way goal is completely neoliberal in nature, and as war is quite profitable most neoliberals can also be classified as neocons as well (at least among the regional management teams AKA the politicians in most countries).

            Thank you for your contribution.

            “We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that has buried its head in the sand, waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and the absence of moral leadership. We must dissent because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better.” Thurgood Marshall


      • sabrina (5942 posts)
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        14. Excellent Dragonfli, somehow I missed this until now.

        I am a little ahead of you, I guess, I am out of the party and hoping to help candidates who are not a part of this corrupt system as much as I can. I am now at a point where if someone is running as a Dem I am already suspicious of them, will they be coopted by the Party Machinary once they get to DC?   I hope not because there are few good people running as Dems who I will support, but with caution.

        • Akallabeth (2234 posts)
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          18. There is a good Independent running against DWS in Florida

          Debbie “Sane Progressive” on YouTube interviewed her.. She seemed like a smart lady.


          DWS is fighting her in a similar (dirty) way to how they fought Tim Canova. She deserves our support.   I have her name written down somewhere.


          She is a Green. And a mother and she struck me as a very smart woman. Not a right winger.

          "Out of many, one"
          • sabrina (5942 posts)
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            20. Thanks, I'll check her out. Would love to see DWS out of Congress.

      • VoiceOfReason (985 posts)
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        25. Very prolix but informative

        I think we are in deep shit; with a whole lot of psuedo and neo fakers, liars, who think that the people exist for them and not vice versa.

        -With republicans it’s trickle down drip, drip.  With democrats\\\it’s a giant sucking sound.

        I have faith in America.  Unless….


        "Men who do evil brilliantly are often admired"  Voltaire BERN BABY BERN!!  War is madness!
    • Marym625 (28366 posts)
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      2. I love this

      It’s stuck to the top of the forum.

      Great idea! Thank you!

      Take Action #StopFCC https://www.battleforthenet.com/breaktheinternet/ "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
    • Haikugal (6811 posts)
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      3. Bookmarked for reading tomorrow.

      thanks for this post and good night! :hi:

    • Mod mom (106 posts)
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      4. Jackson Stephens (BCCI fame) funded Bill Clinton out of Arkansas:


      The centerpiece of the family’s $1 billion empire is Stephens Inc., one of the largest investment banking firms off Wall Street. In addition to its 38 percent interest in Worthen Bank, the family owns stakes in oil and natural gas, utilities, nursing homes, waste management, diamond mining and hog farming.

      On Wall Street and elsewhere in the investment community, the perception is that the Stephenses will be among the best-connected businessmen in America when Clinton takes office Wednesday. Just how they might wield that power is a source of intense speculation.

      The Stephens family has often been in the thick of political controversy. Jackson Stephens, who was not accused of wrongdoing, played a key role in

      helping Bank of Credit & Commerce International penetrate the U.S. banking industry, according to various BCCI investigations.



      Lots of info in this article but limited by the 4 paragraph rule.  Worth a full read.

      The bankers sure got their money’s worth:  Repeal of Glass Steagall, Free trade agreements, MFN status for China, Telecom Act of ’96 to control the future message and of course wars!

      I first became aware of this connection because of the WTI toxic waste incinerator in East Liverpool Ohio on the banks of the Ohio River and within feet of an elementary school in a very poor section of the state.  While running as Clinton’s VP, Al Gore promised to stop this but once in office, of course the project was allowed.


      • Dragonfli (1351 posts)
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        5. Hillary Clinton’s Great Nursing Home Rip-Off

        Stephens inc. appears to be a recurring accomplis where the Clinton family is concerned, after your post I dug this gem up out of my box of Hillary corruption links from earlier this year.



        Here’s just one case Clintonian corruption, which I wrote about in The Nation in 1994, where Mrs Clinton and her law firm were central to a vast and methodical scheme of profiteering, gouging taxpayers and, above all, the defenseless residents of nursing homes in four states, including Arkansas.


        Nursing home rip-offs and the Rose Law Firm led us not only to Hillary Clinton but to other familiar White House names, most prominently associate White House counsel William Kennedy; also to the money machine set up by Bill Clinton when he was still Governor of Arkansas–the Arkansas Development Finance Authority, whose former chief was later ensconced in the US. Agriculture Department, having informed us often enough in 1992 that he was a man totally independent of the Governor.

        Bill sat in the Governor’s mansion in Little Rock, ultimate arbiter of the pools of money that could be dispensed by ADFA in the form of long-term loans financed through the sale of tax-exempt bonds. A few blocks away sat his wife, in the law firm setting up deals, that called on that money. The world of Bill and Hill, disclosed by the saga of Beverly Enterprises, one of the largest owners bf nursing homes in America and until January of this year part of the vast investment portfolio of Arkansas’s Stephens Inc., offers us important truths about the present incumbents of the White House. When questioned about the Whitewater/Madison Guaranty imbroglio, the First Couple sought to give the impression of a pair of babes, venturing a modest investment and left with nothing to show but red ink.

        This is nonsense. Far from being hayseeds in a Southern backwater, Bill and Hillary were players in the politico-financial fast lane. Sometimes the advocates of single-payer health insurance wonder why self-styled populists like Bill and Hillary opted for “managed care,” a honeypot for insurance companies and law firms. The story of Beverly Enterprises opens a window to understanding….

        Again, the 4 paragraph rule limits the extent to which all parties used the elderly largely to set up a series of profit making “shells” then dumped them after the profit had been extracted, leaving many seniors twisting in the wind with ever rising costs that were the result of the shell games played by Stephens Inc., Beverly Enterprises, and the Clintons.

        I suppose we could easily fill out a sub thread just on these early corrupt entities that nursed the then Governor and Rose law firm Lawyer into their more adult DLC graft roles done on a National and some would argue an international scale once they grew into their potential as corrupt President, and Secretary of State – complete with a billion dollar money laundering shell game of a “foundation” to use towards profitable ends at the expense of others.

        One need look no further than Haiti to see how they profited off of the misery of unfortunates nearly destroyed by a catastrophe, using their “foundation” to loot contributions meant to help the ravaged people, to build instead lucrative posh business parks and a fancy hotel, so their friends could work in comfort while taking advantage of the SoS insured near slave labor rate about half of the lousy 60 cents an hour the workers had all but won until forced by Hillary and CO in her professional government capacity to work for half that!

        “We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that has buried its head in the sand, waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and the absence of moral leadership. We must dissent because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better.” Thurgood Marshall


      • 2bAnon (4163 posts)
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        13. I remember this. This event aided the "not a dimes worth of difference" meme

        during the 2000 campaign, which met with a lot of disbelief and push back.  Unfortunately that ploy is working quite well in this election.



      • Akallabeth (2234 posts)
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        19. I am reading this paper about BCCI right now..

        Patricia J. Arnold
        University of Wisconsin­ Milwaukee, USA
        Prem Sikka
        University of Essex, UK



        “The paper is organized into three sections. The first section develops the theoretical foundation by considering the extent
        to which “globalization” has weakened the ability of nation states to regulate economic activity and govern transnational
        corporations. The second section illustrates our skepticism concerning `the end of the nation state’ thesis through
        evidence drawn from the BCCI case study. 4  While the BCCI case reveals serious weaknesses in the existing structures
        for governing transnational banking, it also shows that regulatory and auditing failures at BCCI have political and
        economic underpinnings that can not be explained by “globalization” per se, or its impact on the powers of the state. The
        concluding section summarizes our findings about globalization and the capacity of states and accountancy firms to
        regulate transnational financial institutions. We argue that though the closure of BCCI stands as an example of the
        technical capacity of Western economic powers to employ the aid of accountancy firms to discipline a third world bank,
        the political capacity of the state­accountancy nexus to protect broader social interests in international bank regulation
        remains circumscribed by governance processes that are shrouded in secrecy and beyond the reach of democratic
        politics. The BCCI case suggests that while the state­accounting alliance plays a important role in the governance of
        global banking, it promotes and fosters a global regulatory structure that further the interests of capital, rather than the
        welfare of depositors and citizens.”

        "Out of many, one"
      • The Crone (3157 posts)
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        27. I knew nothing about this:

        Stephens family being behind the ascent of Bill Clinton to Arkansas politics.

        Was the Stephens family connected to the Bush family as well? I always felt the Bushes Sr wanted Bill to have his gubernatorial debut.

        The Bushes even told Hillary that they wouldn’t have been upset with Bill for running for President except he shouldn’t have encrouched on George the Elder’s ability to have a second term.

        "Let us not seek the Republican answer nor the Democratic answer but the right answer." John F. Kennedy   America is the only country that has real   lemons in its furniture polish, and artificial lemon flavoring  in its lemonade!
        • Mod mom (106 posts)
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          28. Jackson Stephens chaired former President Bush's 1988 campaign in Arkansas

          “Jackson Stephens chaired former President Bush’s 1988 campaign in Arkansas and helped organize his inaugural.”



          Played both sides of the fence to ensure his agenda would be met.

          • The Crone (3157 posts)
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            29. Thank you for clarifying this n/t

            "Let us not seek the Republican answer nor the Democratic answer but the right answer." John F. Kennedy   America is the only country that has real   lemons in its furniture polish, and artificial lemon flavoring  in its lemonade!
      • FanBoy (7983 posts)
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        31. no point in voting for anyone they never follow through with promises

        to the people and always follow through with promises to the ptb to jack the people

    • Koko (4532 posts)
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      6. Good Stuff/Efforts. Ought to get it started because we're

      gonna need it!

    • madfloridian (2111 posts)
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      8. Since the late 80s the party has openly shoved its left aside. And yet…

      they fully expect us to forget all about that and in the famous words of Bill Clinton…”fall in line”.

      He said it was okay for us to “fall in love” with our candidates, but then we were to do what was expected of us at the end.

      There’s been open declaration over and over of how they did not need the left anymore. They said they were getting enough corporate money, and they did not have to stand for things that might cause them to lose. They had enough money that they did not have to worry about the needs of the people who had been the usual constituents of the party. They had theirs. They didn’t need us.

      But now they do. Funny how that happens during every primary, every election. They push us aside until they need us, then they put us on a huge freaking guilt trip.

      If the party loses they drag out the trite stuff about how they got too partisan, about how the left failed to vote. Any excuse except what really happened.

      They sounded so much like the other party that the people voted for the real thing.

      They actually said out loud that they had taken over the party, and they did not need us. Not just once either.

      They said it over and over in many different ways.

      From an earlier post at another forum:

      “Simon Rosenberg, the former field director for the DLC who directs the New Democrat Network, a spin-off political action committee, says, “We’re trying to raise money to help them lessen their reliance on traditional interest groups in the Democratic Party. In that way,” he adds, “they are ideologically freed, frankly, from taking positions that make it difficult for Democrats to win.”

      Rob Shapiro, the DLC VP at the time, and a Clinton advisor, spoke clearly about their purpose.

      What we’ve done in the Democratic Party,” explains institute Vice President Rob Shapiro, a Clinton economic adviser, “is an intellectual leveraged buyout.” The DLC, presumably, is acting as arbitrageur, selling off unprofitable mind-sets to produce a lean and efficient philosophy for the “New Democrat,” as DLCers call their slick bimonthly magazine.

      Al From in recruiting Bill Clinton said this. (From his book The New Democrats and the Return to Power.)
      I believe you are the right person for the DLC job—and the DLC job is the right job for you. We have the opportunity to redefine the Democratic Party during the next two years. If our efforts lead to a presidential candidacy—whether for you or someone else—we can take over the party, as well.

      Also from From’s book

      Nearly a year after our Little Rock meeting, at the DLC’s Annual Conference in New Orleans on March 24, 1990, Bill Clinton became the DLC’s fourth chairman. Calling Clinton a “rising star in three decades,” Sam Nunn passed him the gavel. Nunn quipped that when the DLC was created “we were viewed as a rump group. Now we’re viewed as the brains of the party. In just five years, we’ve moved from one end of the donkey to the other.”
      The Wise Geek says that a leveraged buyout is also known as a hostile takeover.

      A leveraged buyout is a tactic through which control of a corporation is acquired by buying up a majority of their stock using borrowed money. It may also be referred to as a hostile takeover, a highly-leveraged transaction, or a bootstrap transaction. Once control is acquired, the company is often made private, so that the new owners have more leeway to do what they want with it. This may involve splitting up the corporation and selling the pieces of it for a high profit, or liquidating its assets and dissolving the corporation itself.

      It truly was a hostile takeover. They don’t plan on giving any of it back to those who traditionally were considered a part of it. They are not going to give up their control over policy. They are going to keep treating the more liberal part of the party as conveniences when elections roll around.

      I’m glad Bernie Sanders ran this primary. It was an ugly and divisive primary. There’s a reason for that. The Hillary side of the party was stunned at how well he did.   It caught them off guard, and instead of standing for issues that benefited the people of the party…..they treated us like the enemy.

      That’s the way the Republican wing of the Democratic party has always treated us.   That’s the way they think of us.

      I guess you could add the new #basementdwellers meme to the mess now.  It just shows how the DLC controlled party has viewed us. They have no concept of who we are…they simply are in denial that we are of all ages and colors and walks of life.

      As I’ve said before, the DLC used Bill Clinton to take over the party in the 1980s.  Now the same  DLC/ThirdWay wing is using Hillary Clinton to continue its grasp on a party that should stand for the people.



      If a person is required to be loyal to a political party and not question their stands on issues, then any semblance of real truth is lost. https://twitter.com/madfloridian
    • bobthedrummer (3390 posts)
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      9. Inconvenient truths about the New Democrats, the Third Way, Democratic

      Leadership Council, etc (JPR OP September 22, 2016)


      All power to the People.
    • bobthedrummer (3390 posts)
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      11. Look at HER 2008 POTUS Campaign Key People

      JPR OP 9-28-16


      Really good research source for everyone that loves the truth.

      All power to the People.
    • CNW (2487 posts)
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      15. Great to see another post from you! A very good awareness of the situation.

      Thanks for the post – it gives one a lot to ponder, how it all comes together in a hellish way for the common folk.

    • ravensong (1878 posts)
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      21. A short "know your enemy" history lesson: The DLC,

      or Democratic Leadership Council. The edits in bold are mine.

      The Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) was a non-profit 501(c)(4) corporation[1] founded in 1985 that, upon its formation, argued the United States Democratic Party should shift away from the leftward turn it took in the late 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s. The DLC hailed President Bill Clinton as proof of the viability of Third Way politicians and as a DLC success story.

      The DLC’s affiliated think tank is the Progressive Policy Institute. Democrats who adhere to the DLC’s philosophy often call themselves New Democrats. This term is also used by other groups who have similar views on where the party should go in the future, like NDN[2] and Third Way.[3]

      On February 7, 2011, Politico reported that the DLC would dissolve, and would do so as early as the following week.[4] On July 5 of that year, DLC founder Al From announced in a statement on the organization’s website that the historical records of the DLC have been purchased by the Clinton Foundation.[5] The DLC’s last chairman was former Representative Harold Ford of Tennessee, and its vice chair was Senator Thomas R. Carper of Delaware. Its CEO was Bruce Reed.
      The DLC has supported welfare reform, such as the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996,[10] President Clinton’s expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit,[11] and the creation of AmeriCorps.[12] The DLC supports expanded health insurance via tax credits for the uninsured and opposes plans for single-payer universal health care. The DLC supports universal access to preschool, charter schools, and measures to allow a greater degree of choice in schooling (though not school vouchers), and supports the No Child Left Behind Act. The DLC supports both the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and the Central America Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA).


      Whatever you want to call them, be it DLC, Third Way, Corporatists, Blue Dogs, New Democrats, or Traitors, they lost EVERYTHING.

      They are anti-democracy Trojan Horse Democrats In Name Only , who took control of, and recently completely neutralized, the traditional Democratic party.  Even now, after losing EVERYTHING, they are arrogantly, and defiantly, refusing to move to the left, they refuse to bend to the will of the people, they refuse to adopt a course of action that will serve the wants and needs of working Americans.

      In the coming years, they will lose even what little we have left, because, like their Republican cohorts, they detest democracy, and function as a line of defense against democracy for oligarchs and their economic interests.  They believe that we will be so desperate to reverse the carnage and destruction that Trump and Republicans will soon bring, that we will come crawling back to them to save ourselves.  And it doesn’t matter to them if Republicans or DINO’s are in office.  Their primary function is to prevent real democrats, like Bernie, from getting elected and subsequently tearing down the status quo system of established oligarchy, and replacing it with a democracy that fully focuses on serving the needs of human beings and the environment.

      So, what is to be done? Obviously, we will have to unite, and construct a powerful and exciting new populist party to challenge and overthrow the two established parties of the oligarchy.  The sooner we unite, the better.  Many Trump supporters are going to quickly become disillusioned with Trump and his loony fascist administration. Left leaning Clinton supporters are going to see the writing on The Wall and realize that the Third Way New Democrats are playing them for chumps and fools, and are only going to lose more than EVERYTHING in the next go round.

      When they do, it would be wise for us to have an exciting alternative in place, an already built nice populist liberal progressive home for them to come to after they abandon the stupidity and futility of supporting Trump/Republicans and Clinton/Third Way New Democrats.

      It’s up to us to become leaders, and somehow end this madness of always being forced to choose between two evils forever.


      Together, together, my friends, we have begun a political revolution to transform America, and that revolution, our revolution, continues. ~ Bernie
    • ravensong (1878 posts)
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      22. Third Way Board of Trustees, 2013

      Together, together, my friends, we have begun a political revolution to transform America, and that revolution, our revolution, continues. ~ Bernie
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      23. Mike Papantonio is an incredible resource explaining third way:

      Third Way Hillary Clinton Is The Wrong Way

      The Third Way? No Way!

      Corporatist Third Way Dems Exposed

      Democracy, in this late stage of capitalism, has been replaced with a system of legalized bribery. All branches of government, including the courts, along with the systems of entertainment and news, are wholly owned subsidiaries of the corporate state. Electoral politics are elaborate puppet shows.- Chris Hedges
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      24. Americans Have Figured Out the GOP and Third Way Cons

      Americans Have Figured Out the GOP and Third Way Cons

      Democracy, in this late stage of capitalism, has been replaced with a system of legalized bribery. All branches of government, including the courts, along with the systems of entertainment and news, are wholly owned subsidiaries of the corporate state. Electoral politics are elaborate puppet shows.- Chris Hedges
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      26. history of DLC/DNC as founded by John Birch Society leaders

      so the origins of the “New Democrats” were the looniest of the rw loons…


      Bill Black: Not 4 Sale – Why the Corrupt, Worker-Hating New Democrats Must Be Purged
      Posted on January 26, 2017 by Yves Smith
      By Bill Black, the author of The Best Way to Rob a Bank is to Own One and an associate professor of economics and law at the University of Missouri-Kansas City. Jointly published with New Economic Perspectives

      This article explains three critical reasons why the Democratic Party’s leaders are far more insane than all but a few Democrats understand. It focuses on the leaders of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the New Democrats. The DNC leadership is composed of New Democrats. Debbie Wasserman Schultz had to resign in disgrace when the leaks proved that she was putting the DNC’s thumbs on the scale to favor Hillary Clinton (a New Democrat) in the presidential nomination contest against Bernie Sanders. Wasserman Schultz also took large contributions from big finance and, until she faced the prospect of a serious primary challenger, she supported efforts by predatory lenders to use Congress to bar the regulators from stopping their abuses….


      What people need to know is that the New Democrats’ historic business patrons are more despicable that Goldman Sachs. The New Democrats’ first formal organization, created in 1984, was the Democratic Leadership Coalition (DLC). The DLC was funded overwhelmingly by huge corporations, but two of its donors are worthy of special note – the Koch Brothers and the Bradley Foundation. Tom Frank made this point forcefully in in 1984 in What’s the Matter with Kansas. The DLC spawned another Wall Street front group with an even more dishonest name – the Progressive Policy Institute (PPI).

      Large corporations provided the bulk of PPI’s funding, but like the DLC it was also heavily funded by the Bradley Foundation. Harry Bradley, along with the Koch brothers’ father, was a charter member of the John Birch Society. That means they were off-the-charts looney and ultra-right wing. Mr. Bradley’s passion was his hatred for organized labor. He was a notorious for his employment discrimination against blacks and women. At the time the DLC and the PPI formed, the Bradley Foundation was the Nation’s most destructive funder of ultra-right wing efforts to influence policy. Today, it is the force behind Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker’s war against organized labor. The Nation’s most virulent and effective enemy of organized labor funded the New Democrats. The New Democrats knew what they were choosing to lie down with and they knew exactly what they were signaling to organized labor about their hostility to unions and disdain for the working class….
      Much much more at the link

      cross-posted by request from GD

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      30. and the upper middle class is buying into it; according to them, people

      aren’t working because they don’t want to, wanna get those generous benefits and live the life of riley