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    The FCC just fired the opening shot in the battle for the internet.

    Email from Fight For The Future. PLEASE TAKE ACTION!!

    Battle For The Net Take Action!

    The FCC just fired the opening shot in the battle for the internet.

    Despite the 1.2 million comments that the FCC received demanding that the net neutrality rule stay in place, the commission passed Chairman Ajit Pai’s plan to allow ISPs like Comcast and Verizon to control and censor what we do online.[1]

    But all hope is not lost. The FCC vote today opened a new comment period, when the public can weigh in before the new rules go into effect.

    We’re launching an all-out push to do everything we can to stop this attack on the internet: pro-net neutrality billboards in key districts, a flood of comments into the FCC, rallies calling on the Senate to block Pai’s confirmation as FCC chair … Whatever it takes.

    Will you chip in to help launch this all-out emergency campaign to save net neutrality?
    It’s not surprising that Ajit Pai pushed to destroy net neutrality — after all, his former employer, Verizon, and his pal Comcast have been trying to undermine our Internet freedom for years.

    But Pai isn’t immune to public scrutiny. If we can generate a big enough public backlash, we can make the FCC reverse course before finalizing this rule.

    The Senate also has the leverage to stop this. Pai’s term as chairman of the FCC expires at the end of this year, and then he is required to be reconfirmed by the Senate.[2] We need to cause such a clamor about the repeal of net neutrality that no senator would risk voting for Pai.

    And we’re also going to remind Congress that they work for the American people — not for Verizon and Comcast — so that it doesn’t pass any laws that damage Internet freedom.

    We’re not going to give up, and we’re ready for the fight. Our Battle for the Net site is still the hub for net neutrality campaigns online. We’re developing new tools every day to help activists fight for a free and open internet. We’ve mobilized dozens of groups and millions of people to stand up for net neutrality.

    We’re not going to give up, but we need your help to win. Will you chip in to fight for net neutrality?

    Yes, I’ll chip in to help fight the battle for net neutrality.
    Thanks for speaking out,
    -Tiffiniy

    [1] Roll Call: http://www.rollcall.com/news/policy/fcc-flooded-reaction-repealing-net-neutrality
    [2] MediaFile: http://www.mediafiledc.com/trumps-new-fcc-chairman-ajit-pai-means-media/

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    • ravensong (1156 posts)
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      1. Total internet blackout if this change goes into effect.

      Widespread 24 hr shut down, hopefully with rampant hack attacks on corporate systems from every angle. General strike, buy nothing sell nothing. If they don’t capitulate, we’ll shut it down for a week.

      Make them pay dearly for their rotten stinking deed. No quarter. This is fucking war.

       

       

      “Democratic socialism means that we must reform a political system which is corrupt—that we must create an economy that works for all, not just the very wealthy,”  ~ Sen. Bernie Sanders  
      • Enthusiast (8384 posts)
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        2. Massive plus one!

        Our wallets are the only way we can fight back. This country has not been under such a threat since the WWII Fascists.

        It wouldn’t be this way but they have destroyed the conventional media. The net is all we have.

        "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church
      • Marym625 (21816 posts)
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        4. Love it!

        Oi245KQ-1 "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
      • Dragonfli (1042 posts)
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        19. That would be appropriate. I also see it as an inevitable reaction

        Script kiddies are far more savvy than ever, beyond party, class, or any other differences they will unite to fight for their right to net neutrality. It is the very air they breathe, they use it for everything and trust nothing of corporate media, they will fight for this because unlike my generation that bought the first computers to come out and learned to write code just to have decent software (largely as yet unavailable), they were raised swimming in the web, they will not give it up.

        Instead of learning code to write as yet unavailable programs they have learned how to use the internet for everything from socializing to learning what is no longer taught them (they know this as well you see). They also know how to wreak havok using the tools of the net they swim in and are not to be underestimated, they will rebel and will rebel hard.

        “We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that has buried its head in the sand, waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and the absence of moral leadership. We must dissent because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better.” Thurgood Marshall

          

    • Enthusiast (8384 posts)
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      3. Recommended to max!

      I have already submitted several times and donated. Thank you, Mary. :hi:

      "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church
      • Marym625 (21816 posts)
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        5. Thank you!

        I hope everyone is!! If people can’t donate, calling and writing is easy!

        :hi:

        Oi245KQ-1 "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
    • Green Dog Dem (3276 posts)
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      6. The Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.

      Remember, it was designed to function in the aftermath of a nuclear war.

      Aloha! KamaAina in the hale (house).
      • Marym625 (21816 posts)
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        7. Your point?

        I hope you’re not advocating for the end of net neutrality

        Oi245KQ-1 "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
        • Green Dog Dem (3276 posts)
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          10. Good gracious, no!

          I am pointing out that there are technical barriers to what the scum are trying to do that are built into the system at the deepest level.

          Aloha! KamaAina in the hale (house).
          • Marym625 (21816 posts)
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            15. Ah! Oh good.

            Thank you.

            I’m sure they’ve got ways around it.

            Oi245KQ-1 "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
      • hopemountain (1934 posts)
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        8. my blood sugar may be low –

        please clarify your sentences to say what you mean. i am not understanding the meaning of your statements. sincerely, my request is not meant to disparage. thank you in advance.

        "economic and environmental justice is spiritual work." ~ tom b. k. goldtooth ....
        • Green Dog Dem (3276 posts)
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          11. The 'Net was designed to function in wartime.

          Possibly even nuclear. So when it detects damage, it tries to bypass it. And this kind of blatant censorship would be seen as damage.

          Aloha! KamaAina in the hale (house).
          • hopemountain (1934 posts)
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            13. thank you – so, does this mean it would

            not function at all or inaccurately?

            "economic and environmental justice is spiritual work." ~ tom b. k. goldtooth ....
            • Green Dog Dem (3276 posts)
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              14. No, it means that it would be damn near impossible to set up what they want

              short of putting the whole country behind a Chinese-style firewall, which would bring the rest of the world down upon their heads.

              Aloha! KamaAina in the hale (house).
              • FanBoy (7985 posts)
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                29. Don't the big (quasi-monopolistic) providers just have to design their

                gateways that way to catch most casual internet consumers?

                how much of the market do Verizon and Comcast have?  I bet its a big chunk.  maybe two other major providers or something?  It seems to me it’s pretty monopolistic already, so relatively easy to do, but maybe I’m wrong — wouldn’t be the first time lol

      • resist99 (883 posts)
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        9. I am afraid it wont help

        I am guessing they will redesign things if they need to. This is about money and censorship. Something like this won’t stop it because censorship is very important to them. Keeping information from people helps control everyone and that is a goal the government will do anything to achieve.

         

        My first wish is to see this plague of mankind, war, banished from the earth. -George Washington ... We could start by cutting the Defense Budget and stopping all the war propaganda.  
    • Lynetta (679 posts)
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      12. Speculation is that if the Deep State cannot get Trump out they

      will finish their cyber attacks take down the internet. The directed nature of the attacks looks like it could be them.There is a huge coronal hole opening on the sun and the effects will start hitting us tomorrow. You know like when a sun spot took out the telegraph system in 1859.Then they would not have to explain the death of the dollar, all the money in banks, stock market, bonds and accounts going poof.  Hackers did it. They probably think too many eyes are on them and Trump to JFK him.  Found out why he took out the NEA. Seems that the State Department sideline was using a program shipping art around the world to move their products. So many perishable art objects listed. They will run them down eventually.

      They are also playing with their huge secret systems for climate control, HAARP that they tried for a week and failed and something yesterday that sent energy out at both polls and an island in between for a while. It whipped up a sudden deluge on South America. Guess they don’t have the glitches in that one worked out. I assume it was another attempt to take the Oroville Dam down again. Same deal as 911 and NOLA. 21st century urban renewal.  That is 1/3 of the world rice production gone, over 50% of fresh fruits and veggies. Half the cargo coming into CA is routed through that area it will be quite a disruption along with the millions of homes between the dam and there. They still do not have a warning system set up and the experts agree is that the Dam will go down this year. It is less than two hours notice to Sacramento the water will be moving 100+ mph. Clintons,Podestas, Al Gore, Jerry Brown and others have proposed growing algae in that area for food and fuel. I am sure the land will be cheap after the flood. It did rain little fish today on Orovile Elemetary school which must mean that the oceans are not completely dead yet.  Oh yeah, that secret Space/Climate Control Program that is not under our government took the “lost” $6.7 Trillion from the Pentagon, busy little internet bees since they woke up. Lots of people whistle blowing. Just need to find out who to tell besides the net. Our Deficit is  a mere $19 Trillion so this space program that gives us nothing but grief took over 1/3 of our taxpayer money. Stay tuned it is only going to get worse.

      The Deep State is being foiled, pushed out and marginalized as they should because they do not believe in Nations, Constitutions or People only their own weird plans. They sure had me fooled.

      • Marym625 (21816 posts)
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        20. Interesting

        Thank you for this

        Oi245KQ-1 "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
    • snot (880 posts)
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      16. K&R'd!

      Nothing is inevitable, except defeat for those who give up without a fight.  —"Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea" (1961), script by Irwin Allen & Charles Bennett. https://www.battleforthenet.com/images/change_avatar/avatar-white-red.gif
      • Marym625 (21816 posts)
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        21. Thank you!

        Oi245KQ-1 "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
    • cui bono (1327 posts)
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      17. k n r

      The DNC can try to squash us but we'll just come back stronger.   
      • Marym625 (21816 posts)
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        22. Thank you!

        Oi245KQ-1 "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
    • iggy (945 posts)
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      18. Darknet here we come

      The Nameservers are the weak point. Once they’re out of commission the WWW is history.

      Then we have Telnet, like the old days. Remember that?

      We can always go back to dialup BBSs, or how about writing a letter? Pick five of your favorite members and set up a cell.

       

      Truth has no Expiration Date. Life without Dignity is Slavery.
      • Marym625 (21816 posts)
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        23. That's pretty much what I was thinking

        Underground newspapers. Phone.

        Thank you

        Oi245KQ-1 "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
        • iggy (945 posts)
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          24. You're very welcome

          I think the solutions are fairly simple, just getting peeps to change over is the more complex issue. I use an old laptop that has a modem and a serial port, but the new machines are bare, save a single USB port.

          In Russia, during the Soviet era, peeps would mail a chain letter called Samizdat to their friends, who would pass it on to others. It’s slow, but it works. They would keep each other informed as to what was happening. Now, one can mail a micro USB card with gigabytes worth of information.

          Truth has no Expiration Date. Life without Dignity is Slavery.
          • Marym625 (21816 posts)
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            25. Oh that's a great idea

            Probably cheaper than paper too. In thelong run. And it can be added to

            Oi245KQ-1 "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
      • Ohio Barbarian (3254 posts)
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        27. Well, it worked for American revolutionaries.

        "Identity politics is the last refuge of the politically incompetent."  --Me, with a hat tip to Isaac Asimov  
      • FanBoy (7985 posts)
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        30. I do remember telnet, but I can't think why I would. Can you refresh my

        memory as to why a non-techie would have used it and when?

        I’m thinking it was at university in the early days of the net, but I could be wrong.

        could it have been in use for say students circa 1985?

        • iggy (945 posts)
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          31. It works like the Internet in a text mode

          I used to use it before the WWW. It works well as a text communications. I would subscribe to various Listserv forums and keep in touch. It would make a good emergency communication network if you could live without the graphics.

          Truth has no Expiration Date. Life without Dignity is Slavery.
          • FanBoy (7985 posts)
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            32. could i have used it for some log on purpose? really bugging me because

            I can see it written on blue screen in my minds eye…

            • iggy (945 posts)
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              33. There's a good chance you were connected to Telnet but didn't know it.

              I was on an Internet Security group when I worked at Digital Equipment back in the 90’s. We had a guy making threats to members. I was eventually able to track him down to a terminal at a University in New Jersey. I kept him online until Campus Security was able to get to the Library where he was. They were able to catch him in the act. So, yes, you may have been able to use Telnet but were not aware of it.

              Truth has no Expiration Date. Life without Dignity is Slavery.
              • FanBoy (7985 posts)
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                34. but i was aware because i remember the screen — i just don't know where

                or when and that’s whats buggin me

                but if they were still using it in the 90s it was probably in seattle

                • iggy (945 posts)
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                  35. You probably have Telnet on your computer already

                  Just open a terminal window and type telnet at the prompt. If you need a secure connection, type ssh.

                   

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                  • FanBoy (7985 posts)
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                    36. thanks — so its all layering…?

                    • iggy (945 posts)
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                      37. They're seperate aps.

                      ..like any of the apps in the /bin or usr/bin directories. It’s just that most people never use the power that’s built into their machine,   A lot of them are legacy apps from when that’s all they had back then. We get so spoiled with our browsers and other Social Media drugs, that we forget what computers were designed to do.

                      Truth has no Expiration Date. Life without Dignity is Slavery.
                      • FanBoy (7985 posts)
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                        38. so what can i do with telnet?

                        and btw, what’s a ‘terminal window’?  not the same as a windows window I’m guessing

                      • iggy (945 posts)
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                        39. You may want to download a terminal program first.

                        Find someone to talk to and study how to use the program.

                        I have not used Windows as a primary in over 16 years, so I’m not up to date on it. I have an old laptop with XP for programs that don’t support Linux or other *nixs.

                        https://linux.die.net/man/1/telnet

                         

                         

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                      • FanBoy (7985 posts)
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                        40. thanks

                      • iggy (945 posts)
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                        41. You may want to look at this program

                        https://www.google.com/#q=powwow+for+windows

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                      • iggy (945 posts)
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                        42. Some background on the program

                        http://powwow.jazy.net/

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    • Ohio Barbarian (3254 posts)
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      26. Thanks for sharing this important non-Trump reality TV story.

      "Identity politics is the last refuge of the politically incompetent."  --Me, with a hat tip to Isaac Asimov  
      • Marym625 (21816 posts)
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        28. LOL!

        You’re welcome!

        Oi245KQ-1 "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian