The king of the establishment (Oblama) has spoken. So what!!!

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  • #226157

    Bernie 4 2020
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    And of course, he thinks the progressives will “Tear everything down” and start all over.

    Little does he know that 74% approve Medicare for all.

    Perhaps he needs to learn to read again.

    F the establishment. If we put up a middle of the road establishment politician, we’ll lose AGAIN. They NEVER learn.

    I can’t wait to see the grass roots Bernie bus, coming around the corner.

    Obama Takes Veiled Shot at Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren: Americans Don’t Want to ‘Tear Down the System and Remake it’


    Sanders 2020

    The revolution will "EVENTUALLY" be televised. Wait it out. It's coming soon.
    The time is NOW for "Medicare for all" and 'Tuition free college". Vote your conscience and do the right thing.
    We may NEVER get this opportunity again. And NEVER is a long ass time.

    "The" six words: Experienced. Clear. Forward Looking. Positive. Pro-Active.

  • #226161

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    You know they don’t really want to win. Not that way, at least. Better to lose like in 2004 and 2016 (and 72, 80, 88) than give up the easy money from the MIC and Oligarchs.

    Tear it down? Damn straight we want to do so. Tear down the MIC, tear down the Banksters, tear down the giant monoculture Agribiz industries, and most of all tear down the Fossil Fuel industry and its trillions of subsidies killing our planet.

  • #226163

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    Aww, more bullshit putting together Bernie and Warren.  Maybe the DNC is planning a Vichy Dem nominee with Warren as VP  as a sop to progressives… Nope.

    (Sorry djean, my error) haikugal

    I will not vote for a Vichy Dem. Period. As always, I decide who is a Vichy Dem.

    Bernie's ISSUES or Bust!

    • #226262

      Populist Prole
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      My thoughts as well. To that end, I’m nurturing what may be a conspiracy theory in my mind: That the establishment is orchestrating a conflation of Sanders and Warren. Wishing to push the notion in the minds of voters that the two are interchangeable, with the obvious aim of going all in on Warren ( “electable!!!” ) so that she can pull the bait & switch that worked so well for Obama once, once elected.

      It’s a wide tapestry of deceit, with lots of well-placed hand-wringing and concern trolling thrown in for good measure. One of the ways I notice are these quasi-false flag, ostensibly objective ( but very specious ) articles: Stuff to the effect, and in practice, if not exact words, like this: ( in so many words )

      Warren scaring the shit out of rich asshole Democratic party donors, and rich assholes in general…asking her to tone down her fiery populist rhetoric…” Blah blah blah. As if strategically placed concern trolling in synchronicity is going to establish her progressive bona-fides among Sanders supporters.

      It’s all so transparent, and yet the bastards no doubt think they’re the cleverest technocrats ever to hatch out of the establishment nest.


      • #226267

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        Good observation! I concur. 👍 Oh AND fuck you Oblahblah!

        The Dirty Fucking Hippies Were Right!

        We do what we can, what we must and we hope for the best while expecting nothing.~ Me

      • #226384

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        It’s not a “conspiracy theory”, it’s a simple description of things that we all see happening. All available evidence points to that conclusion.

        If you give a man enough rope, it will be six inches too short. This is not the nature of rope- it is the nature of man.

        • #226438

          Ohio Barbarian
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          +1000 Indeed, it’s pathetically obvious. It’s also not working, which is humorous.

          We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.--Franklin Delano Roosevelt

          With Bernie Sanders, we have the receipts. --Nina Turner

  • #226175

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    First Clinton , now Obama, do you think Warren might began to realize that the cool kids aren’t into her. Time to make amends and endorse Bernie. Unless she’s cool with giving Biden and Bloomberg some shade.

    • #226569

      Betty Karlson
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      ^This. Word for word.

  • #226268

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    the corporate media does its best to ensure that tearing it all down would be the only thing that could work

  • #226270

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    Mr.President,if you had done the job we elected you to do,we wouldn’t be concluding that the whole thing is a sham and responding accordingly.

    • #226439

      Ohio Barbarian
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      @mizzgrizz +1M

      No fucking shit. We thought we were voting for FDR, and got Herbert Hoover.

      We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.--Franklin Delano Roosevelt

      With Bernie Sanders, we have the receipts. --Nina Turner

  • #226375

    Robot X
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    Obama represents a corrupt, for profit, predatory, healthcare system. A corrupt system by definition cannot sustain itself. Any and all corruption eventually fails. You cannot tweak or improve a corrupt system. Corruption must be torn down, ripped out, and completely eliminated. Tear down the system and replace it? You bet. The sooner the better!

  • #226394

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    You hang in there Mr. President Wonderful. Those bad old progressives not giving you credit for implementing a Republican healthcare plan? Big meanies! We still love you the bestest and mostest. Because you are awesome.

  • #226442

    Ohio Barbarian
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    Dear President Obama,

    You failed us. Now please STFU and get the hell out of our way.


    Progressives who voted for you in 2008

    We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.--Franklin Delano Roosevelt

    With Bernie Sanders, we have the receipts. --Nina Turner

    • #226673

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      Hey Ohio

      maybe this board can all come to agreement on impeachment?

      I think it is time for a citizens impeachment of all the past presidents from at least raygun forward.

      we JPRers could all come to washington and hold our hearings on the capital mall!  Can you imagine!


  • #226509

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    What the Big Zero meant to say was, “I don’t want you to tear down the system because I want to get as rich as the Clintons.”

    "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron."

    - Dwight D. Eisenhower

  • #226547

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    2008:  Yes we can.  2020:  No we can’t.  As Der Drumpfenfuhrer might say “Sad.”

    Jesus: Hey, Dad? God: Yes, Son? Jesus: Western civilization followed me home. Can I keep it? God: Certainly not! And put it down this minute--you don't know where it's been! Tom Robbins in Another Roadside Attraction

  • #226549

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    Just look at the Counsel of Oligarchy he surrounded himself with. Rahm “freaking” Emanuel was his right hand man.

    "I welcome their hatred" Franklin D Roosevelt

    • #226674

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      Honestly that picture is so creepy


  • #226558

    Babel 17
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    Pretty soon people will be comparing his Presidential Library to the ACA.

  • #226635

    Electrolyte Orchestra
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    He ran on Hope & Change, then governed with a bait and switch entrenchment of the oligarchy. Some might compare him accurately to a Used Car Salesman (I will stop short of the POS part.)

    He defeated HRC in large part due to a grassroots, youth-led ground game. That actual hope morphed into Bernie’s political revolution. He helped form it, now attacks it. He needs to go away.

    • #226649

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      Bait and switch is a fine way to put it.Talk populist,govern conservative.Jimmy Carter,for all his decency and genuineness,pioneered that approach,and Bill also used it,as did Trump.

  • #226655

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    Didn’t vote for either Hillary Obama or Barack Clinton in the 2008 primary  Didn’t really see any difference between them.  One was a Vichy New Democrat, and the other one was a Vichy New Democrat.  Voted for Obama in the GE, with a tiny bit of hope he would shock me and go rogue, and not be the Vichy New Democrat dutiful servant of wealthy private interests that I was 99% sure he would be.

    He didn’t surprise me in the least, and the Vichy New Democrats got slaughtered across the board in the 2010 elections.

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  • #226656

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    Obama was the king of the meaningless generality. “Hope” and “change” might just as easily have been “corn flakes” and “fritos” for all those catchwords meant. I knew what to expect from the get-go. He was  too polished and smooth to be genuine. Used car salesman on the Cadillac lot. Lots of bells and whistles. Little substance.

  • #226679

    B Calm
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    Same strategy that defeated Senator McCaskill!

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