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  • davidthegnome (1155 posts)
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    The latest Clinton BS

    So, I’ve been hearing all sorts of things about this new book.  Seems an interesting piece of fiction, but permitting the Clintonites to rewrite history is not within my tolerance level.  Let us all remember a few things:

    It was the Clintons, not republicans, that enabled “welfare reform”, destroying the promise of the new deal along with leaving millions of people out in the cold.  For all of the republicans efforts over decades to eliminate the social safety net – it was democrats that accomplished it.  Remember all that stuff about putting Americans back to work?  As if the majority of us had somehow stopped?  They played into a National, angry, bull shit dialogue about “welfare queens”, people using all their government money to buy drugs or somehow living high on the hog with the pittance that (even then) welfare afforded them.

    There are many complaints I might make about the Clintons and their third way policies and philosophies – but of all of them, so called welfare reform is, to me, the most despicable.  It was the democratic party’s statement, telling the American public (particularly the poor) that they had abandoned their roots, that they had abandoned their base, that they had abandoned whatever principles once held most strongly by the party.  This was, to my mind, the beginning of the democratic split that was many years in coming.

    For years, we liberals and progressives argued with the other side of the party.  For years, we got more of the same.  Corporate democrats, negotiators, cat food committees (remember that?), deregulated economy, environment, tax breaks for the wealthy, skyrocketing military funding, enormous cuts to all social programs.  Another nail in the coffin was the large number of elected democrats that supported the Iraq war – this in spite of most Americans (particularly those of us on the left) knowing full well that it was bull shit.  Hundreds of thousands of lives lost, hundreds of billions of dollars, the destruction of our foreign policy, of the good will the much of the world had towards Americans after 9/11.

    So… a progressive independent comes along and starts talking about change.  A more reliable system of government in which the wealthy are taxed more appropriately – and the rest of the people of this Nation might be afforded opportunities such as healthcare, higher education.  Regulation for the severely deregulated economy.  Strong environmental policies.  The closest thing to a real social democrat (at least, as far as potential Presidents go) since FDR himself.

    Yet somehow, Clinton’s loss is the fault of Bernie Sanders and his supporters.  Or the fault of Stein and her supporters.  We are told to ignore decades of betrayal, of disappointment, of the contempt for the masses held by elite democrats such as Obama, Clinton, dear old Rahm, Pelosi, Schumer… the list goes on and on.  Much the same way Gore could supposedly not be blamed for 2004 (it was all Nader’s fault!) the party is pointing at a convenient scapegoat.

    We are then, supposed to ignore our conscience?  Our common sense?  The suffering of our people both enabled and even promoted by so called democrats?  Not me.  Not this liberal.  I was a proud, fanatic democrat for many years – and I did not leave the party – the party left me.  The so called “center”, the so called “moderates” and “reasonable adults” suffered from such illusions of grandeur that it was painful to read.  The once and future Queen, Hillary Clinton, who’s turn it was…  was “betrayed”, somehow, by that vicious socialist who’s greatest supposed flaw was wanting to help the poor and promote social and economic justice.

    Let me be very clear: The policies of mainstream, corporate democrats, are not those of the left in philosophy.  They are neither economically nor environmentally – nor even socially tolerable.  All this smoke and mirrors (pay no attention to that individual behind the curtain – the emperor has no clothes) bull shit is just that: bull shit.  Now perhaps a certain number of democrats will go along even now, thinking that it (the mainstream party) is at least better than the conservative alternative.  Apparently… they have learned nothing over the decades.

    The lesser evil is still evil – and it is even arguable that it is indeed lesser – again, democrats accomplished the destruction of the new deal… the Clintons in particular.  Our votes, our policies… they matter.  Not only what we push to accomplish, what we fight for… but what we allow to remain, who we allow to hold the reigns of political power.  I hope and pray that we are moving into an age beyond Clintons, Bushes, Trumps, Pelosis, Schumers, Cruzs and so on and so forth…

    We simply cannot tolerate much more of it.  I cannot suffer anymore of this egotistical nonsense pushed by Clinton and her ilk.  She lost because she was not progressive, because she had years of bad policy, poor judgement – and terrible decision-making skills that we are all aware of.  I don’t (and didn’t) give a damn about her color, her gender, nor even her socioeconomic status.  I gave a damn about what she had actually done, both in office and out.  The choice was obvious – the right choice was also so.

    Clinton lost not because of Bernie or Stein – Clinton lost because of Clinton.  Enough is enough.  All of this Bernie bro bull shit is utterly laughable.  It is time to stop pretending that they have any right at all to criticize, to demand, to point the finger at those of us who give a damn and have the intestinal fortitude – the courage – to put up a real fight against the oligarchy.

    It was with great sadness and no small amount of regret that I left the democratic party behind.  It was a decision years in the making as I observed and lived through one betrayal, disappointment and disaster after another.  It is time for something new.  I am waiting.  I will not, now or in the future… be voting for those of Clinton’s ilk.  I could not in good conscience cast my vote for a so called conservative either.  We cannot continue to compromise with evil… to argue from a position of weakness… and expect genuine progress.  We must re-invent the wheel, build something new that will leave the old guard in the dust.

    Enough is enough.  The legacy of the Clinton’s is one of betrayal, ignorance and idiocy.  Let it end.

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    • Blue Meany (419 posts)
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      1. There method to their madness, though…

      The point is to scare progressives into voting for centrists, lest they get right-wing crazies instead.

      • Fawke Em (4075 posts)
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        10. That no longer works.

        We’re tired of getting both right-wing and neoliberal policies since, on economic and foreign policies, they are virtually the same. The centrist Dems are only slightly better on social issues.

            
        • Dragonfli (1333 posts)
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          17. I agree, on social issues they are all talk, activists get the work done

          Hell, if truth be told, the are actively bad in practice on social issues. I live in a neighborhood full of single mothers, mostly brown or black that can barely feed or house their children (some even lose their children because they can’t feed or house them because rather than offer help they offer a system to take the kids away). They were far fewer, much better off (with far, far, less of the fathers in prison) with more assistance available when needed, before these “centrists” destroyed their lives actively with policies they devised and pushed through.

          Democrats only care about women, people of color, freedom of sexuality, etc for female CEOs and the brown and gay friends they know that live in gated communities, they actively starve, and put the rest in prison habitually and without mercy.

          “We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that has buried its head in the sand, waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and the absence of moral leadership. We must dissent because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better.” Thurgood Marshall

            

          • Ejbr (244 posts)
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            30. +1

            Done with Corporate Dems. Done. "The time is always right do the right thing." MLK
          • VagrantPeters (686 posts)
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            38. +1 The only reason we get any movement at all on social issues is they

            don’t cost them any money.  Those are easy and they still come begrudgingly along only after the public does the heavy lifting.

             

            "It's alright Ma, it's life and life only." - Dylan
            • ronRonnie (633 posts)
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              39. Could not agree more.

              Even the supposed better-on-social-issues thing bullshit.  How long did it take Obama to get onboard with marriage equality?  And Hillary was against it until 2013 or so – after the polls and focus groups said it was okay.

               

              Fuck both parties.  Republicans suck for obvious reasons.  Democrats, however, are particularly gross because they masquerade as some sort of alternative when they are anything but.

              • 3FingerBrown (469 posts)
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                44. Yep. Obama got on board

                Marriage equality in …wait for it…2012! I wonder what was happening that year, of all years, that might have changed his mind?

    • Salemcourt (570 posts)
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      2. Any one who claims Clinton is liberal or progessive

      is delusional.  She is a right wing war-monger and fully in war with the 99% for the benefit of the 1 %.

    • Punxsutawney (1747 posts)
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      3. Thank you.

      Very nicely written and worth bookmarking imho. Yes, the current leadership of the Democratic party are not liberals in the traditional sense of the word. And they would have done to Social Security and Medicare given time what the Rethugs have been dreaming to do since the time of the New Deal.

      And while personally I don’t like Hillary, (there’s something that just grates on me about her), I would have voted for her over tRump if it wasn’t for the fact that she’s a neo-liberal, and I give them no quarter on anything.

      To neoliberals, everyone and everything are disposable. -  Chris Hedges  “The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness" - J.K. Galbraith
    • Katashi (993 posts)
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      4. Unless they are a select group of Progressive candidates. My default vote is

      now for the worst possible GOP candidate.   My vote is a weapon.  I will deny DNC elections until they -or the country become extinct.  Whichever comes first.

      • vanflower (528 posts)
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        5. Ahh this is a bad idea.

        I’d say don’t vote or vote third party.

         

      • BillZBubb (2805 posts)
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        7. It's hard to see how that is helpful.

        I won’t vote for republican. I won’t vote for a neoliberal either. So, it’s third party if no progressive is running.

        DemExit! Don't give the Democrats a dime. Don't identify as a Democrat. Drop Democratic identification below 20%. Only then will they support true progressive policy. Until then, corporate money rules.
        • Katashi (993 posts)
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          13. I don't reward Dems for running shit candidates I can get shit from the GOP

          in bucketfuls.  If they run a Republican lite candidate, I might as well vote for the real thing.

          • Ejbr (244 posts)
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            31. I'll grant you this

            at least the Republicans won’t cheat you out of your vote

            Done with Corporate Dems. Done. "The time is always right do the right thing." MLK
            • Katashi (993 posts)
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              43. Exactly at least you get upfront basic incompetence and petty evil.

              Instead of being sold a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

          • chknltl (323 posts)
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            36. Look a child in the eye and tell him or her….

            ….that you voted for the nightmare that will be their future.

            I believe that given these three options:

            An agenda that helps the citizenry.

            An agenda that makes the citizenry a little worse off than it is now.

            An agenda that makes the citizenry a lot worse off than it is now.

            I will vote for the option that offers to help the citizenry.

            I’ll not be conned nor fear-mongered into voting for harming the citizenry, especially when it is for an agenda that will harm our children’s future.  It’s as simple as that.

             

             

             

            • Katashi (993 posts)
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              41. Sorry, I plan to keep tossing Molotovs until it burns or we get actual candidate

              No more voting for incrementalism. Or the lesser of two evils shit again.

      • Doremus Jessup (2975 posts)
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        9. I'm with you.

        They need too be punished. Who wants too be beaten by Louie Ghomert? I voted for Todd Young instead of Bayh in the hoosier state. Looking forward to voting against Donnelly. I don’t give a shit if they run Mitch Daniels against him. My state has been sucking air since Birch Bayh was defeated. I even miss Dick freakin’ Lugar… the democratic party doesn’t deserve to exist. We are not alone as witnessed by the 1000 plus seats lost since 2010.

        Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity. End ALL occupations and bring the troops home.
        • Katashi (993 posts)
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          14. Exactly! Then they have the gall to whine when it blows up in their faces.

      • RufusTFirefly (2430 posts)
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        28. A colossally bad idea. Here's a much better one

        Although I can appreciate the anger of progressives who vote for Republicans as a protest, this is a tragically misguided strategy. Although it’s a bad idea to “hold your nose” and vote for a DINO, it’s even worse to give your vote to a Republican. In either case, there’s no asterisk after your vote or spot on the ballot where you can explain your rationale. Don’t kid yourself: Your vote is utterly indistinguishable from the vote of a true believer.

        Likewise, staying home sends an ambiguous message. There’s no way to distinguish between politically engaged people who didn’t vote because they’re disgusted with the choices and those people who are simply too lazy to do the absolute minimum to participate in what we like to refer to as “democracy.”

        By far the best way to send a clear message to Democrats that they are an insult to progressives is to (drum roll) vote for a progressive. That usually means voting Green, Peace and Freedom, or another third party that takes a more progressive stance. In most cases you won’t be voting for someone who has a prayer of being elected, but you will be officially registering your dissatisfaction as well as your political viewpoint. Unlike with a protest vote for a Republican or a nose-holding vote for a DINO, your message should be crystal clear.

        If there is no progressive on the ballot, writing in the name of a recognized progressive is still far superior to voting Republican, holding your nose for a DINO, or staying home.

        Given the death grip the two main parties currently have on the process, I appreciate the skepticism that some feel for the chance of a third party. But stranger things have happened. (Just ask the Republicans. They were once a third party.) Besides, even if the Green, Peace and Freedom, or some other progressive party fails to become a viable contender,  a growing — and most importantly, measurable — bloc of disenchanted voters will send a message to the major parties that they ignore at their peril. Also, if the number of people who vote third party reaches a critical mass, it will qualify that party for federal funding and make it that much more difficult for the duopoly to ignore them during debates.

         

        • Dragonfli (1333 posts)
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          33. Yes, I agree completely and act accordingly, you describe the obvious remedy

          It is important that “lesser evilism” stops working for them, but any evil voted for works against the good. It would seem wise then to vote for the good, not because of any guaranteed win in the present, but rather to start cutting a trail that can widen and eventually be paved as a road to good governance.

          “We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that has buried its head in the sand, waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and the absence of moral leadership. We must dissent because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better.” Thurgood Marshall

            

          • RufusTFirefly (2430 posts)
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            34. Thanks! I see it as a more hopeful version of that old saying

            “Don’t vote. It only encourages them.”

    • BillZBubb (2805 posts)
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      6. Well said!

      DemExit! Don't give the Democrats a dime. Don't identify as a Democrat. Drop Democratic identification below 20%. Only then will they support true progressive policy. Until then, corporate money rules.
    • nevereVereven (3374 posts)
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      8. Heartily recommended!

      A hologram of a magnifying glass will also function as a magnifying glass, but a hologram of Sherlock Holmes won't solve anything.  
    • Flying Squirrel (1004 posts)
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      11. That'll be on the Daily Radical.

      Glad to see you, hope you’re doing well!

    • MistaP (6447 posts)
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      12. probably the scummiet thing they did to the party was to make "conscience"

      a dirty word: they made people believe that the most dangerous thing in the world is a voter with a conscience: it was scruple that brought down the Twin Towers, standards that gave us Iraq and HB2, they’ll cause WWIII: this is sickening

      the people who made these conscious choices are exempted and the electorate is blamed, in need of more discipline; voters with any sort of scruple or expression of dissatisfaction with the choices presented to them by the political machines literally brought down the Twin Towers

      look at that smoking crater in downtown Manhattan: look at that girl spattered in her family’s blood at an Iraqi checkpoint: YOU did this; YOU pulled that trigger

      we lost because you complained, because you weren’t happy with the “choice” we forced on you

      if you cared about immigrants or raped 12yos (well, most of them) or gay people, the only way to prove yourself was to defend the First Couple: this is the worldview of a groveling underling, of the insincere lackeys and histrionic sycophants she surrounds herself with: they’ve abandoned all morality, ethics, faith, hope, charity, human rights, all because someone from above told them to

      the Clintons’ influence has lasted three decades: the only other people that so absolutely dominated a country’s entire political system for decades were the Perons

      http://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/ (Third Way = Bell Curve)
      • mossyfrog (509 posts)
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        25. Remember

        that it wasn’t just the Clinton’s. Its been a 4+ decades long ruling cabal. Raygun/Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama/and should have (in their sick minds) been another Clinton. All their policies (their TRUE policies) have been exactly the same. And where they want to force the USA/World  into the direction they want which is a Corporate controlled 1984/Brave New World type of reality.

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        • MistaP (6447 posts)
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          27. 1994 is also when they rehabilitated Reagan: after 1986

          he was a drugrunning babykilling joke, and, worse, an embarrassment

          Gingrich and Limbaugh made him so revered he’s placed well above Jesus and everyone has to start their speech by praising him

          http://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/ (Third Way = Bell Curve)
          • mossyfrog (509 posts)
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            35. Yup

            they know humans have a short memory span (esp. when overworked/underpaid and constant bullshit all around them every day (1984 tactic’s) that they can change history and its very effective. The worst “praise” I ever heard was Obama admitting his fav. President was Raygun! At that time I was still holding a slim hope that Obama was not a wolf in sheep’s clothing. But when I heard that I finally knew we were all played.

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    • Dragonfli (1333 posts)
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      15. I am not the first to recommend, but I feel this is Daily Radical material.

      I also agree with every word. Good piece of writing my friend. 

      “We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that has buried its head in the sand, waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and the absence of moral leadership. We must dissent because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better.” Thurgood Marshall

        

    • NJOCK (589 posts)
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      16. Wonderful, well thought out, heartfelt work

      And all true! Thanks, David. Rec!

      “The first revolution is when you change your mind about how you look at things, and see there might be another way to look at it that you have not been shown. What you see later on is the results of that, but that revolution, that change that takes place will not be televised.” -Gil Scott-Heron
    • Ohio Barbarian (5164 posts)
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      18. A systematic, point by point demolition of the Third Way/DNC legacy.

      Or, from another kind of ironic point of view, your argument is the Borg cube that assimilates their inherently illogical and intellectually inferior arguments. Well done. Recommended for the Daily Radical.

      Ignorance is the foundation of tyranny.   
    • Marym625 (26294 posts)
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      19. On The Daily Radical

      Recommended by a few members and I agree

      Great post

      "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
    • Enthusiast (10167 posts)
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      20. Recommended a whole bunch!

      :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

      "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat, 1848
    • MrMickeysMom (1743 posts)
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      21. She's a liar, cheat and coward…

      I have a feeling that these are her only good qualities left. She’s totally bereft of anything else touching her fellow humanity. Fucking magnet towards any power-source, in my NOT so humble opinion.

      There’s always been something about those two that didn’t seem right. I was slightly intrigued by her willingness to try to make something out of the health care system, and I felt for her in front of Congress when being bullied by those she would come to mingle with after the Clinton fiasco presidency. She didn’t seem to be fazed by the same sleezeballs she fended off. She in fact… “listened” to them when entering the Senate herself. Then, the Obama antagonistic primary race and waiting for another bone to be thrown. Thank you, Madam Secretary for all the foreign policy you planned in such a militaristic way. You thought your pals would be good about what you did, but you forgot… you were dealing with the same sleezeball mentality, which by then WAS foreign policy.

      Somebody should buy up these books and put them in the constipation wing of an enema ward.

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      • Ejbr (244 posts)
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        32. Nice conclusion!

        My split from Clinton actually came when Bernie announced his candidacy. Up to then, I was thrilled to be able to cast my vote for a female. Then, I became woke to her bullshit.

        I eventually voted for Stein; my first, proudly cast, vote for a female president

        Done with Corporate Dems. Done. "The time is always right do the right thing." MLK
    • sadoldgirl (1890 posts)
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      22. I understand your contempt about the welfare issue, but go

      further. The fact that Bubba sneakily made sure that Glass-Steagal

      was defeated led to the 2007-8 recession. To me equally disastrous.

      Also, as I read up on Bubba’s years, he allowed the CIA to create

      such havoc in Yugoslavia just to keep NATO alive. Otherwise we would

      not have the problems now between the USA/Europe/ Russia. And we

      all know HER record regarding wars, which most poorer Americans,

      who pay with their taxes for these trillions of dollars, may not realize.

      • Dragonfli (1333 posts)
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        24. Because of all the points you made previous to the last, poorer American kids

        pay for their wars with their lives, limbs, and mental health.

        The poor draft is in full effect, affecting almost entirely a generation of increasingly poor and desperate young people raised in an environment where jobs are scarce and pay less than it costs to live, where higher education is far too expensive for all but the upper middle class and above to consider an option while the lower middle class and below that try, learn about life destroying perma-debt and degrees that still grant no employment in one’s chosen field.

        The armed forces promis 3 squares, a cot, and a career in empire building (still for low wages) and hint at high end training and college with lucrative careers at the end of service. They are young, desperate and naive so they believe the empty promises and become empire fodder.

        They are never told how cheap their lives are, that when their minds or bodies break (if they don’t die) and they end up out of the military, a very high percentage of them will suicide or live on the streets.

        Yes poorer Americans pay for those wars with taxes, but also with the blood and bodies of their children.

         

        “We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that has buried its head in the sand, waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and the absence of moral leadership. We must dissent because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better.” Thurgood Marshall

          

        • mossyfrog (509 posts)
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          26. And

          don’t forget the Military gives them a sense of self worth (whether done for the right reasons or not) which many of these kids/young adults desperately need after being beaten down all their lives just because the system makes them poor. Then they get to come home (if lucky) and everyone looks at them as hero’s. Whether they actually did anything in service or not. Even the desk clerk in Japan is labeled a hero now by most because he’s part of some sick conspiracy by the PTB to make war normal and good in the minds of so many.

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    • Mnpaul (1440 posts)
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      23. Hillary, once again, shows us

      that she simply isn’t Presidential material.

      If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything - Hamilton
    • Billsmile (61 posts)
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      29. Link to a Good Anti-Hillary Piece

      From the Counter Punch folks. I read the whole thing.

      https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/09/08/hillary-hates-again/

    • RealityCheck (963 posts)
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      37. Listen

      Lets give the Clintons credit where credit is absolute.

      What they do BEST is control attention deficit minds and $$$money —–> for themselves.

      NO bs!!

    • Wood (1243 posts)
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      40. great op, thank you. your opening says it well:

      in particular, this is exactly what I was thinking today.

      permitting the Clintonites to rewrite history is not within my tolerance level.

      "All things wrong will move on if you let them."  - Prem Rawat
    • FourScore (407 posts)
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      42. This is the best piece I have read in a long time! Well done!!

      And thank you!

    • coderEmeritus (458 posts)
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      45. I was a huge Clinton (Bill and Hill) fan..

      …right up until the crash of 2007.  Seems that the chickens of the repeal of Glass-Stegall combined with the passage of the Commodity Futures Modernization Act (deregulated derivatives) had come home to roost.  I wonder how a DEMOCRAT could think handing the keys to our economy over to Banker equivalents of teenager with car and a bottle of whisky could be good idea.

      In addition to allowing these bankster fucks to destroy our economy (and make no mistake here, we are still recovering from 2007 and the right-wing populism we are currently experiencing is a direct fallout of the entire situation), absolutely no one was held to account.

      In looking back at the whole Clinton experience, you get free trade with no quid-pro-quo with China, NAFTA, the Telecommunications Act, the end of “welfare as we know it”, the repeal of Glass-Stegall, the passage of the CFMA, and more and more and more.  And with that I have to ask myself – with Democrats like these who needs Republicans?

    • Satan (2882 posts)
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      46. They're making this one a full blown propaganda offensive @Camp Weathervane LLC

      You know how I know that?

      Joey “Wyldwolf” Davis is posting over at SV again. He usually never shows up except for election years. Joey used to work right out of Al From’s office.  Not sure which Turd Way branch employs him these days, but he’s still very much on the mission to keep SV on the talking points.

      Fuck Kamala Harris. Fuck Borey Crooker. Fuck Joy Reid. And FUCK Hillary Clinton & her husband for destroying the Demoncratic Party.