The least vaccinated U.S. counties have this in common: Trump voters

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    • #417982
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      The disparity in vaccination rates has so far mainly broken down along political lines. The New York Times examined survey and vaccine administration data for nearly every U.S. county and found that both willingness to receive a vaccine and actual vaccination rates to date were lower, on average, in counties where a majority of residents voted to re-elect former President Donald J. Trump in 2020. The phenomenon has left some places with a shortage of supply and others with a glut.

      For months, health officials across the United States have been racing to inoculate people as variants of the coronavirus have continued to gain a foothold, carrying mutations that can make infections more contagious and, in some cases, deadlier. Vaccinations have sped up and, in many places, people are still unable to book appointments because of high demand. In Michigan, where cases have spiraled out of control, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, a Democrat, recently urged President Biden to send additional doses.

      But in more rural — and more Republican — areas, health officials said that supply is far exceeding demand.  In a county in Wyoming, a local health official asked the state to stop sending first doses of the vaccine because the freezer was already stuffed to capacity with unwanted vials.  In an Iowa county, a clinic called people who had volunteered to give shots to tell them not to come in because so few residents had signed up for appointments.

      Vaccine hesitancy is highest in counties that are rural and have lower income levels and college graduation rates — the same characteristics found in counties that were more likely to have supported Mr. Trump. In wealthier Trump-supporting counties with higher college graduation rates, the vaccination gap is smaller, the analysis found, but the partisan gap holds even after accounting for income, race and age demographics, population density and a county’s infection and death rate.

      https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/04/17/us/vaccine-hesitancy-politics.html

       

    • #417985
      djean111
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      And my IQ is pretty high, albeit not put to discovering things or whatever.  It never occurred to me to consider my voting record when deciding to wait and see.  I voted for Obama and yet – have never taken a flu shot or had the flu.  Ooops.   Has the NYT broken things down by religious beliefs? Or anything else?  Because the NYT is never biased, of course!

      So Biden voters unhesitatingly  trust the government and Pharma.  That does explain a lot.  Did the NYT factor in not voting at all?  Or is not voting for Biden considered a vote for Trump now.   80 million registered voters did not vote for either asshole.

      This reads as another one of the ways to try and shame people into taking the shot.   I wonder if there is anything at all that is not politicized these days.  NYT investigative reporting.  Yup.

      America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

      Everything I post is just my opinion, and, honestly, I would love to be wrong.

      • #417987
        Cold Mountain Trail
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        “This reads as another one of the ways to try and shame people into taking the shot.”

        — I disagree.  Who would it be shaming?

        • #417988
          djean111
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          Or “only Trumpers would not take that shot!  Or dumb people!”  I posted a list of that crap a little while back.  It is kinda amusing, watching stuff pop up, that’s for sure.  I will still be in wait and see mode.  And wear a mask.  And not depend on the NYT for investigative reporting.  Cheerio!

          America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

          Everything I post is just my opinion, and, honestly, I would love to be wrong.

          • #417989
            Cold Mountain Trail
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            Ah.  I was interpreting your comment to mean making people feel ashamed of not taking the shot, not making fun of people who didn’t take the shot.

            I think if people aren’t taking the shot because they don’t believe in the disease, don’t believe the shots are safe, or don’t believe the shots are effective, they won’t be made to feel ‘ashamed’ by someone making fun of them.

             

          • #417990
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            Or when another article comes out in a few weeks that ‘death rates from COVID much higher in counties that voted for Trump’ comes out, will you have another lame excuse blaming the media?

            These science-denying Trump sycophants are going to get what they have coming to them: higher morbidity and mortality because they followed their imbecile leader instead of the science.

            Oh, and I’m also pretty sure that the Big Pharma manufacturers are using this to pad their bottom line, but that’s just a feature of capitalism. Vaccines also work in Cuba and Russia, even where the profit-gouging is taken out of the picture.

            Corporate America consists of totalitarian entities laser-focused on short-term greed.

            If you just got finessed into calling the medicine that won the 2015 Nobel Prize for its role in treating human disease ‘horse de-wormer’ then you need to sit the next couple of plays out.

            • #418016
              Cold Mountain Trail
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              I posted the article.

              You attacked me personally.

              On edit:  Apparently not.  My apologies.


              @gzeush

              • #418031
                djean111
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                @gzeush was attacking me, not you.   And his post hilariously clearly illustrates what I am   talking about.  With a big side helping of wishing actual harm on people who do not follow his political views.  that is actually more of a GOP trait, IMO. And I am not ashamed of anything, I am just entertained by how this is all playing out.  No one here, lovely as you all are, has the power to make me be ashamed of anything, or even influence me.  Y’all state your opinions, I state mine.

                Also, @gzeush – we are not being given much of a choice on vaccines, are we.  So what is happening in other countries is not really relevant.  Although, again interesting, some other countries have halted giving some vaccines.  I suppose I should assume those countries voted for Trump. eh?


                @coldmountaintrail

                America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

                Everything I post is just my opinion, and, honestly, I would love to be wrong.

                • #418045
                  GZeusH
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                  You can just point out, a la Ron White, that you can’t fix stupid.

                  Would I take a piss-poor vaccine that was only 30% effective? Sure, 30% is better than 0%. However, data so far indicates that the vaccine is maybe 80-90% effective in preventing illness, and 99+% effective in preventing fatalities.

                  Every vaccination (along with every new food) runs the risk of anaphylactic shock, but on balance getting vaccinated is a net positive. If it wasn’t, our government would just leave it to the marketplace to work out, and vaccines could compete with homeopathic remedies, crystals, aromatherapy, and probiotics.

                  Corporate America consists of totalitarian entities laser-focused on short-term greed.

                  If you just got finessed into calling the medicine that won the 2015 Nobel Prize for its role in treating human disease ‘horse de-wormer’ then you need to sit the next couple of plays out.

                • #418056
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            • #418038
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              Well the vaccines arent designed to prevent covid, just lessen symptoms and keep deathrate down. There also is no proof yet the vaccines keep folks from spreading covid hence the admonitions to socisl distance and stay masked up

      • #418034
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        My thoughts exactly, @djean111 and yeas this is another attempt at shaming which will never eork with me. Faucci and his ilk lost me with all the you cant handle the truth noble lies.

    • #417998
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      And also because I already had the Covid. Vaccinations are not being distributed well in my neck of the woods at all. You have to drive somewhere and wait in line. There are people who don’t have cars, you know, and can’t afford bus fare to spend all day getting a fucking shot in the arm. I’m speaking that way because I’ve heard that complaint.

      The NYT would classify me as a Trump voter, or at least point to the fact I refused to vote for the Democrat and proclaim their liberal moral superiority, like they did here. By inference. @djeann111 is correct, IMHO.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #418000
      salemcourt
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      I would not believe anything they print.

    • #418003
      Pam2
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      I don’t appreciate the implication either that only dumb Trumpers don’t want the shot. I have legitimate concerns about the side effects.

    • #418018
      JonLP
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      All I had was a sore arm both shots with the Pfizer vaccine.

      Let this radicalize you rather than lead you to despair - Mariame Kaba

      Like many public systems, GOP want to rip the battery out + say the whole car doesn’t work, so they can sell it for parts - AOC

    • #418025
      Satan
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      Not sure if they think the 500,000+ dead mortals were all “crisis actors” (as Alex Jones would call them) or what.

      It’s one thing to have some skepticism about a new vaccine, using a type of bio science that hasn’t been seen before (the MRNA stuff) or to be concerned about blood clots in another vaccine – though it’s literally one in a million odds there.

      It’s entirely something else to believe a bunch of crazy dragonshit about Bill Gates using the vaccine to implant tiny little Windows 10 powered nanobots so he can create a secret army of…. what exactly??  Or whatever the latest crazy conspiracy the Q-Anus cult is circulating this week.

      Fortunately, I’m immortal, so I don’t have to worry about any of this. But maybe I should endorse a particular brand of the vaccine so the wackjobs can start a “demonic possession/mark of the beast” type of rumor about it?

      "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable". - John F. Kennedy

    • #418040
      lownslow
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      It is kinda sad how many folks blindly believe things they WANT to be true. I used to admire around 30 folks opinions on this board, now down to a handfull. And, man i miss @ThouArtThat  I dont know what has become of tat but i hope he/she hasnt gotten tired of the uninformed on here with their definitive pronouncements. Some folks need to do a little more researching and a little less preaching. Ive seen a lot of nice, thoughtful, smart folks leave here. I hope, really hope, that i am wrong but i suspect some of you vaccine chearleaders may regret some things in time

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