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  • #158807

    lownslow
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    Has anyone read the manufacturing of Greta Thunberg by investigative journalist Cory Morningstar? I cant paste yet but it details how ptb are realizing they have tapped some markets out and are co opting the youths climate fears to cloak a pro growth agenda and keep the bastards that got us into this mess in power. I like Greta but this details how she is a front in a sense for a startup which  aims to be the yelp for environmental causes. As a longtime environmentalis(remember acid rain) it just breaks my heart. mabye some of you folks much smarter than I can evaluate this and mabye shed some light.

  • #158811

    Mr. Mickeys Mom
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    So, what are you trying to say here?…. That Greta Thunberg is somehow the child prodigy of market branding?

    Are you supposed to be making a point? If so, then what?

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  • #158813

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    I am sure there are lots of people and companies hoping to run grifts and scams off of her reputation and image. Hopefully she has people who can help her avoid this, but probably unlikely.

    • #158825

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      She has aspergers. She won’t be fooled. They don’t have the same trends to ego driven agendas that the rest of us have. They can try but she basically told all the worlds leaders to get fucked. She is no one’s fool.

      • #158992

        Cold Mountain Trail
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        She’s 16.

        You might wonder how a 16-year-old gets sustained and generally positive attention from the (incredibly concentrated) US and world media.

        The kind of question people typically don’t ask.

  • #158820

    HubHeaver
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    Of course she will be co-opted.  TPTB have far too much to lose.

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  • #158821

    Ohio Barbarian
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    Well, I found a link to these Morningstar(is that his real name, I wonder?) allegations. My first impression is that this a conspiracy theory saying that the Green New Deal is being secretly advanced by a big-moneyed cabal so they can reap the profits of it for themselves, basically implying that there is nothing we can do about climate change now, so why bother?

    If you think my first impression is mistaken, and it may well be, please explain why.

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    • #158831

      Mr. Mickeys Mom
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      That’s basically where I was going. Yes, Morningstar is a real person, according to the blog featuring this…

      independent investigative journalist, writer and environmental activist, focusing on global ecological collapse and political analysis of the non-profit industrial complex. She resides in Canada. Her recent writings can be found onWrong Kind of Green,The Art of Annihilation andCounterpunch. Her writing has also been published byBolivia RisingandCambio,the official newspaper of the Plurinational State of Bolivia

      She’s also been defended (why?) by a “OffGuardian” source for this volume I and II series…

      And, yes, those who recognize this generation coming to the earth and willing step up individually also may see this as an environmental policy ready to be made to sound corrupt. Well, tally ho, you festering little group, gathering your ammo for neolib politicians. You whores are bound to show up sooner or later…

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    • #158994

      Cold Mountain Trail
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      if its not his/her real name, its one s/he’s been using for some time.

      https://www.countercurrents.org/morningstar110711.htm

      Though the mention of “Rockefeller” is a good excuse to segue immediately into “conspiracy theory,” I think the question is a good one.  If plutocrats are funding ‘the movement,’ are they really afraid of it, or promoting it?

       

      “The question is why globalist plutocrats, such as the Rockefellers, fund the majority of the mainstream environmental movement and establish an organization that now calls for civil disobedience and the halt of tar sands expansion into the US? If the true meaning of climate justice were in fact to be realized, it would mean nothing less than the stripping of wealth of these very families and corporate entities. The very system which ensures global monetary wealth and power stay securely in the hands of the privileged few today – is absolutely dependent upon and cannot succeed without continuous expanding raping, pillaging and degradation to our Earth and relentless exploitation of those most vulnerable.

      Since these families and corporate entities have come to fund the mainstream environmental movement , we can safely conclude that they do not fear it. The reason is simple – the climate justice ” movement ” represents no real threat to the globe’s wealthiest and most powerful. The global elites – including the dominant Rockefellers – shape, define and ultimately control the movement itself. Yet these big names do lend credibility to an organization whose legitimacy is essentially non-existent.”

      https://www.countercurrents.org/morningstar110711.htm

  • #158893

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    I dont have a point, only questions. Is this morningstar reliable, trustworthy? Her 2 part article seems well researched but is over my head. I was hoping someone could read it and boil it down for me and mabye point out some flaws. Its so hard to tell who to believe but i trust you guys and value your opinions. Thank you for your input.

  • #158899

    RufusTFirefly
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    Shoot the messenger is a tried and true technique. It’s just that some methods are more sophisticated and diabolical than others. This is not about Greta. This is about the future of humanity. And frankly, she’d be one of the first people to tell you this.

    The fossil fuel industry and the PTB are doing their best to create doubt and discord. They are heavily funded, have one of the most powerful megaphones imaginable, and are good at what they do.

  • #158902

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    It appears the site that originally ran Morningstar’s series is the Wrong Kind of Green website.    Quite a few articles, info and links.  I’ve just started poking around and reading:

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    Sorry the above link didn’t come out right—first time I’ve tried to post from my tablet.

  • #158920

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    Of course she is a product of branding and marketing. Of course there are more influential people behind her. Otherwise, no one here would have ever heard of her. She would not have a sophisticated social media presence with millions of followers. She would not be getting any press coverage.  She would not have been on my television the other day. If the msm doesn’t want someone to become a household name, then they don’t cover them.

    Is the whole thing a force for good or is it a nefarious plot to undermine the environmentalist movement? Who knows? That remains to be seen.

    • #158997

      Cold Mountain Trail
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      Thank you.  The time is long past (if there ever was such a time) in which anyone, anyone, got media coverage that wasn’t programmed & managed.

      When 16-year old girls are getting regular laudatory media coverage, something’s up, & its a good bet that someone in power supports whatever it is.

      Every single time I’ve looked into children getting big media coverage, I find money & influence lurking in the background.

      The Manufacturing of Greta Thunberg – for Consent: The Political Economy of the Non-Profit Industrial Complex [ACT I]

      The Manufacturing of Greta Thunberg For Consent: A Design to Win — A Multi-Billion Dollar Investment [VOLUME II, ACT I]

       

      • #159004

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        Yeah…. I heard that about this kid who started keeping a diary when her family was hiding from the Nazis…

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        • #159008

          Cold Mountain Trail
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          If you read the history of how that diary came to be an international best seller, you’ll find the same.

          on edit: & actually, little deep research is necessary: just knowing the configuration of global power & politics post ww2 makes it easy to see.

          and just in case there’s some leaping to conclusions going on:  the statement below is an acknowledgment of reality, not a value judgment about any particular case of reality.

          Very little happens in this human world that’s ruled by power & money without power and Money laying fingers on the scale.

      • #159075

        lownslow
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        Very true, thank you, cold mountain

    • #159467

      Mr. Mickeys Mom
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      Exactly…. If the MSM doesn’t want to exploit someone, they don’t put them on. If you’ll notice, very little air time on MSM is given to G.T. If you look at Democracy Now!, you’ll see a half hour interview. There was also quite a bit of coverage of non MSM on the internet through Naomi Kline via the Intercept’s website.

      People are exploited who are getting attention, if they can be, but everything I’ve seen and read about G.T. has to do with who she sees when traveling here. If the series of articles want to zero in on how G.T. can be exploited, then maybe the OP should have used that and not “the manufacturing of…”

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      • #159470

        Cold Mountain Trail
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        I saw repeated newscasts about (climate strike) this week and weekend on tv.  also articles in all the big papers & other print media during the event.

        as for thunberg, she was covered by abc, cbs, nbc, fox, msnbc, all in the last 5 days.  plus multiple print outlets, including forbes, the capitalist rag.

        seems to me she’s getting a lot of attention.

        • #160098

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          Therefore she’s a fake and the entire climate strike thing is manufactured by the same interests to which it is opposed in order to control the movement?

          Sorry, that’s as absurd as believing Trump always tells the truth or that Joe Biden is on the far left. Isn’t it just possible the media covered this because they thought it would get them more viewers? Isn’t media attention what the climate strikers were trying to get in the first place? To, you know, spread awareness?

          This is getting way too paranoid for me. It’s like saying the FBI and the Southern segregationists were promoting Martin Luther King.

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  • #159167

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    Oh G-d this is more spy vs. spy stuff.  Useful for manipulating us into giving up.

    I feel much better since I gave up hope.

    "If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there’d be peace." – John Lennon

  • #159208

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    What signals a message of giving up? Question everything.knowledge is power. Reminds me ofliving colors cult of personality song Its not about Greta. Its about the overton window shifted to where any ‘green’ deal automaticaly includes economic growth and other corporate friendly policies as a given. Did anyone read the article?😆

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    a little weird
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    Have you heard her say anything that isn’t true?  Do you have some sort of actual evidence she’s being manipulated?  This sounds like a smear campaign to me.

    • #159341

      Cold Mountain Trail
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      I re-read the OP & I don’t see him/her saying anything like that.  Nor does the series (I’m only on part 2) say anything like that, in fact, the author is at great pains to say otherwise.

      What the articles do (so far as I’ve read) is lay out the history & the connections to money & power.  Of which there are many.

      That’s good journalism, in so far as its fact-based.

  • #159329

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    I haven’t read the article, but I will. I just wondered if this is a possibility:  what if a Rockefeller here and there is indeed in support of green policies. After all, they got their money, power and influence a long time ago and this money not likely to go away.

    Corporations are run by CEOs and boards, not by namesakes. This person might be separated from the oil company, living off inherited billions or millions and not necessarily affiliated with the oil companies.

    Does anyone recall the Baskin Robbins heir (John Robbins) who turned on the dairy industry and publicly rejected their ice cream?  Wouldn’t eat it himself. Put his money where his mouth is and rejected his inheritance, too. Something on that order is what I am suggesting is a possibility, minus rejecting the inheritance.

     

     

     

     

     

    • #160746

      Cold Mountain Trail
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      I think it’s of interest that John D founded Standard Oil in 1870, and 150 years later, his descendants are still one of the richest families in the world & still exert a significant force on public policy.

      The Rockefellers vs. the Company That Made Them Rockefellers

      All of which is how ExxonMobil found itself in federal court this past November arguing that the Rockefellers were funding a conspiracy against it.  Judge Valerie Caproni of the Southern District of New York was hearing the latest arguments in a legal battle that had begun more than two years prior, when members of the Rockefeller clan, in their latest attempt to pressure the erstwhile family business to deal with climate change, funded journalists who uncovered documents showing Exxon had known about the dangers of burning fossil fuels for decades while publicly denying it was much of a problem at all. The Rockefeller-backed reports had inspired multiple state attorneys general to investigate whether Exxon might be liable like tobacco companies that lied about the cancer risks of smoking had been…

      Twice a year, many of the 270 living descendants of John D. Rockefeller gather in New York for a family reunion. Attendance is nonmandatory and irregular — “Half of the 270 people I wouldn’t recognize,” said David Kaiser, one of John D.’s great-great-grandsons — and the activities range from the traditions of any family reunion (sharing baby photos, catching up) to the tasks required for maintaining one of America’s largest fortunes: debating, for instance, how to manage Kykuit, the family’s sprawling estate on the Hudson.

      During the winter reunion in 2016, Kaiser stood…addressing a group of his relatives…some of whom wanted to air their grievances about an article detailing the climate allegations against Exxon that Kaiser had recently published in the New York Review of Books…For one thing, a significant portion of the family’s wealth is still tied up in Exxon stock. “If Exxon’s stock price suffers, the whole family will lose money,” Kaiser said…

      While the Rockefellers have been overtaken by more modern fortunes, they remain America’s 23rd-richest family…America’s business titans have a tradition of turning, late in life, to charity…. But it is rare for an American dynasty to confront the source of its wealth. The Sacklers, for instance, recently passed the Rockefellers on the Forbes list of the country’s wealthiest families, thanks to profits from OxyContin, now one of America’s most abused drugs. They have donated many millions of dollars to museums, universities, and other institutions but have given next to nothing to combating the opioid epidemic…

      The Rockefellers’ campaign against Exxon began in 2003, when Neva Rockefeller Goodwin, an economist at Tufts and John D.’s great-granddaughter, co-sponsored a resolution at Exxon’s annual shareholder meeting demanding the company study climate change’s impact on its business…

      http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/01/the-rockefellers-vs-exxon.html

      https://www.insidephilanthropy.com/fundraising-for-climate-change/rockefeller-brothers-fund-grants-for-climate-change.html

      https://www.rbf.org/programs/sustainable-development

      https://www.routefifty.com/infrastructure/2019/07/rockefeller-foundation-8-million-climate-and-resilience-program/158321/

      Rockefeller Impact Annual Report 2018

       

       

       

  • #159471

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    Frankly, I’ve never heard of Cory Morningstar.

    However, I definitely have heard of Amy Goodman, Naomi Klein, and George Monbiot.

    All three have been familiar to me for nearly two decades and have firmly established a reputation of courage and integrity, so I hope it’s OK if I value their support and defense of Greta Thunberg over the allegations of someone who for me at least is until recently a complete unknown.

    • #159472

      Cold Mountain Trail
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      i respected amy goodman very much for her reportage on indonesia/timor.  after the crisis at pacifica something changed. a young friend of mine volunteered there for a while and found it very corporate.

      one does what one is led to do.  in the past few years there are many personalities i used to ‘trust’ who either have changed or else i was mistaken about it the first place.

      or else the territory has changed.  but something definitely has.

  • #159698

    Nick Xylas
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    Suppose she is being promoted by the PTB. What of it? Does it invalidate her message in any way? This just seems like a variation on the tried and tested technique of sowing doubt in order to keep the population confused and fearful.

    #NotWithHer

    • #159705

      Cold Mountain Trail
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      what’s her message being coopted in service of?

      i haven’t got all the way through morningstar’s tome (which i think is badly written, needlessly verbose, goes down blind alleys and in more than a few cases attacks by implication rather than evidence) but it appears that climate change is a new profit opportunity for capital, one which they’re in dire need of as profits aren’t what they used to be and there’s a lot of hopium being sold by the usual suspects.  and such plans have been in the works for longer than one might think.

       

      • #160673

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        CMT… You say, it appears that climate change is a new profit opportunity for capital, one which they’re in dire need of as profits aren’t what they used to be and there’s a lot of hopium being sold by the usual suspects.  and such plans have been in the works for longer than one might think.

        Climate change isn’t a profit opportunity. It’s a wake up call about the amount of industrial methane and CO2. It’s in bad need of a solution, which is to cease putting industrial methanols and CO2 in the air. If that’s an opportunity to have non-fossil fuels versus sustainable geothermal, wind and solar energy, then that’s a two-for. Profits don’t amount to shit when you can no longer sustain clean air and water to produce profits. Sustainable energy is a solution, and it’s also an opportunity for both capitalists and democratic socialists, communists, marxists and fascists to turn profits. The way that churns the economy is going to depend on whether there are fair labor standards and trade.

        If you think profits aren’t what they used to be, then, by all means, compare and contrast them to now to expound on that, but don’t forget to come back to what we are talking about – the message from Greta that has churned the human race into asking what our direction should be before we leave an unlivable earth to our children.

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      • #160674

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        I thoroughly enjoyed that. Thank you.

    • #160621

      Mr. Mickeys Mom
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      I agree.

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  • #159707

    emme
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    What I have gleaned from the Wrong Kind of Green website and the Morningstar series is this:  at it’s core, the purpose of the Green New Deal is not to avert  ecological catastrophe.  It is to monetize what is left of natural resources and the natural environment to make money and extract profits for the corporations; a Fourth Industrialization.  From what I have seen of corporate behavior, I don’t think this is an unreasonable premise  to give some consideration.

    • #159828

      lownslow
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      Yes, emme, thats how i feel. After amy goodman, thomn hartman, cenk ungar, and of course rachel went all hillary, hillary before election and then went all russia, russia afterward, im jaded and bitter. If we leave ptb in power, green new deal will get watered down. Mabye im wrong, but it looks like revolution time. Btw, Go to forbes,  it has that statement where Greta takes a shot at green new deal.

    • #160099

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      So it’s hopeless and we should just all commit suicide, then. Jesus H. Christ on a Harley; this line of thinking goes into the heart of darkness. Go there if you wish, but I’ll stay out of there, thank you very much.

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  • #160192

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    Cool story.

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  • #160271

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    Morningstar posts to a site called Counter Currents. Counter [dash] currents [dot] com is the Web site of notorious white nationalist Greg Johnson.

    Just a coincidence?

    • #160339

      Cold Mountain Trail
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      Wrong Countercurrents.  The one that Morningstar posts to is linked & excerpted below.  You can search Morningstar’s articles.  You can also read an article titled: “Thank You Greta: The Young Lead In The Climate Crisis – Dr Arshad M Khan” so they’re not apparently playing a one-sided “conspiracy” game.

      See how I responded without calling you names?  If we say we want to have rational discussion of issues where everyone’s perspective is included, we need to do it, not just talk about it.  I try & sometimes fail; hoping we all will do the same (keep trying, though sometimes we fail).

      Humanity is facing its greatest existential threat ever with climate change and resource depletion. This is not a crisis waiting to happen in the future, but it is already here and manifests itself in the many resource wars going on in  several parts of the world, rising food and fuel prices, growing hunger, natural calamities of horrifying proportions, water scarcity, debt crisis, unemployment, social tensions among communities, growing human rights violations and unprecedented ecological degradation. Unless we take urgent action to change the way we live, trashing our only home, this beautiful planet earth, this  crisis has the potential to wipe out the entire humanity and a majority of the other species from the face of this earth.

      The objective of Countercurrents.org is to spread awareness about this crisis and search for meaningful solutions. We believe that energy intensive globalization should end and it must be replaced by a low energy, ecologically sustainable local economies.  If humanity is to survive, the destructive system of capitalism and consumerism must be replaced by an economic system which is based on just equitable distribution and need based use of resources.   We strive to reach this goal with our motto, which is “Educate! Organize! Agitate!”

      About Countercurrents.org

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      Countercurrents acts as the voice of the global south.

      Countercurrents.org  is founded by Binu Mathew.  The site came online on 27th March 2002.

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  • #160278

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    No doubt she’s on Putin’s payroll.  Or, maybe Monsanto?   Green Peace?  The DNC?   Trump?

    At any rate she has to be a member of some conspiracy.   Being young, female, and European means that she can’t possibly think for herself.

    Right?

     

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    • #160340

      Cold Mountain Trail
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      What is it with y’all?  No one said anything like the words & thoughts you ascribe to them, but you keep repeating them in the face of repeated denial.

      Kinda getting the feeling people aren’t really interested in polite discussion.

      And of course, he who owns the means of production sets the parameters of democracy.

      • #160403

        Mr. Mickeys Mom
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        Perhaps this is a good time to respond again, Cold Mountain Trail. The thread, which raised hairs on my head, has taken a few turns that have struck up some emotions, hasn’t it? I can be pretty emotional, but not against your comment or the OPs. I really, really wanted to understand why there was a need to begin the title as, “the manufacturing of…”, when what is very apparent to me is the unfolding of a 15 year old girl’s demonstration that has turned into an international event. Having said that, perhaps there ARE interested parties who instead exploit or at the very least, see something like an opportunity to prosper off of what one child has accomplished. I already see more e-mails from interested parties. But, I what I don’t see is that THEY manufactured her.

        So, I’m walking back this conversation. I don’t forget what Greta Thunberg is about. I think you and I know what she is about. I don’t want to fail her generation by participating in a discussion board where we forget that. You and I are better than that.

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        • #160544

          Cold Mountain Trail
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          Thanks for the civility, @mrmickeysmom

          I would guess the OP posted that title because that’s what the title of the piece is, as titled by the person who wrote it.  The OP didn’t create a new title & I don’t see anything in the OP’s posts that makes me think s/he is engaged in ‘sabotage’.

          I actually think that shutting off civil discussion is sabotage, because if the problem doesn’t get openly discussed from varied points of view, it comes to the table half-baked, & best options don’t emerge.

          As to why morningstar chose that title for her article:  I have no idea, and already said I thought it was a poor/misleading choice.

          But I disagree that participation in such conversations fails the younger generations.  Young people tend to be idealistic, their virtue.  Older people tend to be less so.  I think all voices are needed, and a calm space to hear all.  That would seem to be an important function of political boards, rather than just rooting for team A or team B.

          I think it would be a bigger shame if youthful ideals were hijacked by some version of techno-green-capitalism, which meant runaway growth for profit, destruction & immiseration of most people.

          And judging by some of the actors noted in the morningstar piece, hijacking would seem to be a possible outcome.  Best to be aware of that possibility, imho.  Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will & all that.

          I really appreciate you choosing to engage, thanks.

  • #160472

    RufusTFirefly
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    I’m with @mrmickeysmom

    To feign innocence about the obviously defamatory implication of “manufacturing” in this context strikes me as deeply disingenuous. Moreover, sabotaging other threads with the same allegations adds to my skepticism. (As does – I hate to say it – the fact that the poster had just slightly more than 10 total posts at the time.)

  • #160482

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    just a heads up for all the Sanders fan here

    IF you go down into these people’s rabbit holes I hope you all do not lose your shit when you start to become surrounded by people who full stop believe Sanders is a sheep dog.

    just a friendly warning

    cheerio and SO glad I do not live in the US, land of the Rump, home of the gutless neolibs rough riding yer arse down the shitter (bareback even, no lube, no choklad, no reach-around)

  • #160997

    lownslow
    Member
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    @lownslow

    The title of the op is the title of the article. I have been here since the beginning, but mostly lurk because all i have is an f,,,,,n phone. I have limited computer skills. I just learned to copy and paste yesterday but i am a long time environmentalist. I campaigned for mcgovern, jesse jackson, etc. This is the only place ive ever joined but was a longtime lurker at sv. Im so mad at rufus allegations. Kill the messenger. Hey, rufus F,,, You

  • #161011

    lownslow
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    @lownslow

    Should have said limited technical skills(the wife has a computer but i never touch it cuz my dumb a## cant work it) make fun of me if you wish😆 but i wish some of you would actually read the articles you comment on

    • #161553

      emme
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      @emme

      LnS, I  know what it is like to be tech challenged;  hell, I messed up the link I posed to the WKoG articles because it was the first time I had posted from my tablet, instead of the laptop.

      You used the name of the article in the post headline, which is not an unusual thing to do.   I am a bit surprised at the reaction, given that is the title of the article.   It is what it is

      I just want to say, folks here are good people, and there are a lot of spirited discussions.  People do disagree, sometimes quite strongly.   And   agree,  equally  enthusiastically, quite often.  I hope you will give the place a chance, and keep posting.    :-)

  • #161769

    lownslow
    Member
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    @lownslow

    Thank you for the kind words, Emme. That means a lot! 😉

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