The Mauritanian — “A political thriller”.

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      gordyfl
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      The Movie Storyline: Based on the NY Times best-selling memoir “Guantánamo Diary”, this is the true story of a prisoner’s fight for freedom after being detained and imprisoned for years without charge by the U.S. Government. Alone and afraid, prisoner Slahi (played by actor Tahar Rahim) finds allies in defense attorney Nancy Hollander (Jodi Foster) and her associate Teri Duncan who battle the U.S. government in a fight for justice that tests their commitment to the law and their client at every turn.

      “Exceptional performances by both Jodie Foster and Tahar Rahim.”

      “The Mauritanian” failed to garner a single Oscar nomination despite critical praise and several nods at the Golden Globes. Jodie Foster secured a Globe win as best supporting actress, but didn’t get an Oscar mention.

      Quotes from the movie:

      John: “You want to represent the head recruiter for nine-eleven?”
      Nancy Hollander: “Alleged. And no, I’m defending habeas corpus, which Bush and Rumsfeld are dismantling gleefully as we speak.”

      Bill Seidel: “Rough justice. That’s what this administration wants. We’ve taken a lot of prisoners in Afghanistan, working our way through to Bin Laden and the guys who planned this s**t.”

      Stuart Couch: “Let me ask you, I understand everyone has a right to a defense. But doesn’t it bother you at all working for someone like this?”
      Nancy Hollander: “I’m not just defending him, I’m defending the rule of law.”
      Nancy Hollander: “My turn. What if you’re wrong?
      Stuart Couch: “We’re not.”

      Sergeant S. Sands: “Welcome to US Naval Base Guantanamo. This base exists outside the US legal jurisdiction. If you stray outside the designated areas, you will be removed from the island. Apart from your client, you’re not to speak to, or communicate with detainees. You’re not to discuss classified information with your client, even if it pertains to your case. Illegal disclosures may result in your arrest, and immediate removal from the island.”

      Teri Duncan: “He’s guilty! He’s f***ing guilty!
      Nancy Hollander: “Maybe he is. And he still has a right to councel.”
      Terri Duncan: “I’m not saying he doesn’t. I’m saying he helped kill three thousand civilians, and we’re doing everything we can to get him out.”
      Nancy Hollander: “Yeah, we’re doing our job.”
      Teri Duncan: “I did bake sales for his legal fund. That’s not part of my job. My dad told me I’m not welcome home for Thanksgiving dinner this year. That’s not part of my job.”
      Nancy Hollander: “Get out.”
      Teri Duncan: “What?”
      Nancy Hollander: “You want turkey and pumpkin pie with mom, and dad, and uncle Joe? Go on. Get out. Go home. You can’t win a case if you don’t believe in your own s**t.”

      Teri Duncan: “Have you been charged?”
      Slahi: “No! No. No. Three years and they charge me with nothing. They kidnap me from my home, and put me in jail in Jordan for five months, then in a military base in Afghanistan, which was like living in a toilet, by the way, and brought me here with a bag on my head and chains around my body.”
      “I’m interrogated eighteen hours, every day, three years.”

      Nancy Hollander (referring to files): “What the f**k is this? It’s all redacted.
      Kent: “Hey, I’m responsible for what goes out. You got a problem for what comes in, you take it up with the government.”
      Nancy Hollander: “Wait, we didn’t get your name.”
      Kent: “Kent.
      Nancy Hollander: “Kent what?”
      Kent: “Kent tell you anymore than that.”

      Nancy Hollander: “Now I need you to sue the government.”
      Slahi: “What?”
      Nancy Hollander: “We have to file a motion to compel them to release the evidence that they have against you. We can’t fight what we don’t know.”

      Nancy Hollander: “One day, this will be a tourist attraction. I’m not kidding. And the cruise ships from the Keys will come and dock, crowds will wander around the cells with daiquiris, trying to wrap their heads around what the hell happened here?”
      Stuart Couch: “What do you think is happening here?”
      Nancy Hollander: “I don’t know yet. But they built this place out of reach of the courts for a reason.”

      Nancy Hollander: “You know, I think I figured out why they built the camp down there. And we’re both wrong. It’s not the detainees that we’re trying to keep out of the courts. It’s the jailers. My client, he’s not a suspect. He’s a witness.”

      Slahi (to Nancy Hollander): “What do you want me to sign, Nancy? Who am I suing today? God?”

      YouTube Trailer — “The Mauritanian”…

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=N00DwEsSSYU

    • #427603
      retired liberal
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      “Nancy Hollander: “You know, I think I figured out why they built the camp down there. And we’re both wrong. It’s not the detainees that we’re trying to keep out of the courts. It’s the jailers. My client, he’s not a suspect. He’s a witness.” “

      They know too much about how corrupt our government is and operates.

      We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
      The older we get, the less "Life in Prison" is a deterrent.
      Always wear a proper mask when out and about. The life you save could be both yours and mine.
      Don't forget that the S in IoT stands for Security.

      • #427606
        gordyfl
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        Here’s another…

        Nancy Hollander: “Will you write it down? Your story, how you came here, what happened to you. Will you write that down for us?”
        Slahi: “So my interrogators can read it? I tried that once already. It didn’t end well.”

        The movie was also interesting because you never felt sure of his guilt or innocence. Some of the interrogation scenes were a bit disturbing.

        At the end of the movie the real Nancy Hollander praised the movie for its accuracy. Prisoner Slahi said the intense-interrogation he received was worse than what the movie depicted.

         

    • #427610
      closeupready
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      A part of me wants to not like Jodie Foster because she’s always come off to me as an arrogant, closeted lesbian who self-servingly dismisses sexuality as not central to a human personality.  And considering how rich she is, that idea is – literally – a rich thing for her to argue.

      But in fact, I have to concede that she is a terrific actress, and again in this film, she knocks it out of the park, convincingly portraying an ordinary American lawyer who believes in the Constitution and wants to defend the due process it guarantees.  And there were plenty of scenes where she could have over-acted, but she winningly held herself in check.

      Definitely an 8 out of 10 star film, IMO.

      The opinions and personal views expressed herein are solely those of the author, and should never be taken seriously.

      • #427629
        gordyfl
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        Unlike most people, I wasn’t very impressed with Jodi Foster in her early films Silence of the Lambs and Taxi Driver. I thought she put in a good performance in The Accused. I have a vague recollection of Nell, so I’m not sure if I saw that movie, but I remember there was much talk about her acting.
        It wasn’t until her starring role in the movie Contact that I took notice to her acting and I enjoyed that movie very much. Then there was Panic Room, an exciting thriller. I thought she was quite good in that movie, too. (As I look at the list, I’m surprised I’ve seen so many Jodi Foster movies).

        But as I watched this movie, the Mauritanian, I thought she deserved an Oscar. At least a nomination. Maybe it was because I also liked the storyline. I too thought she ‘knocked it out of the park’. She seemed ideal for that role. After watching the movie, I read she wasn’t even on the list of Oscar nominees. No one was from the movie.

        I did see the movie Minari. The award for best supporting actress went to the co-star of that movie. She also seemed very convincing in her role and deserving of the award.

    • #427633
      Scott Crowder
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      Has a voting member of the Academy on their film school staff. Same film school has “former” CIA on its staff.
      Whole film industry is very gatekeeperish and controlled.
      Hopefully, with the cheaper coost of filmmaking nowadays, that will change.
      It’s no accident a politically charged movie like this gets snubbed.
      Now, had she been a nonbinary lawyer defending a black woman who was wronged by police…

    • #427637
      gordyfl
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      while the audience gave it an 85% score.

    • #427824
      KenTankerous
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      "If we define an American fascist as one who in case of conflict puts money and power ahead of human beings, then there are undoubtedly several million fascists in the United States."
      - Henry A. Wallace
      (FDR's Vice President until he was forced out by the corrupt forces of obscene wealth.)

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