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    • #494960
      Babel 17
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      What no government official can acknowledge — even among the Euroland victim nations of this awesome stupidity — is that the US demolition of the Nord Streams was an act-of-war against our own allies. By the way, the blogger who styles himself as “Monkey Werx,” notable for tracking the world-wide military flight movements, presents a comprehensive play-by-play of just exactly how the mission was accomplished. I’ll summarize but you can read his full report (click here) for yourself.

      MW reports that overnight on the 26th of September, a Navy P8 Poseidon submarine-hunter jet flew out of the US to the Baltic. It did not land in the UK to refuel — thus avoiding any tracking complications — but rather rendezvoused over Grudziadz, Poland, with a US Bart-12 mid-air refueling plane, which it hooked up with for more than an hour. The P8 was equipped with Mk54 air-launched torpedoes. After un-docking from the Bart-12 refueler, the P8 followed a route west along the Nord Stream pipelines, descended to bomb-run altitude, and dropped its weapons. Kaboom. Then, fully refueled, the P8 flew directly back to the USA. Days later, when confronted at the UN by Russia with a yes-or-no question as to US responsibility for the Nord Stream caper, the US representatives refused to answer one way or another. Cute.

      https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/developing-developments/

      https://www.monkeywerxus.com/blog/the-nord-stream-2-pipeline-sabotage

      If this can be verified, the commentary is going to be wild from those not in thrall to the MIC.

       

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    • #494961
      Babel 17
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      I have a nasty feeling that the MIC in effect offered Ukraine to Russia in exchange for the pipeline getting destroyed, with Russia not retaliating, and now Europe, especially Germany, becoming economically and politically utterly dependent on the United States, especially its fuel supply. Additionally that would mean investors would want dollars, and American stocks, as Europe looked like it was failing. And the petrodollar might also get saved, for now. With America calling the shots in Europe, China could get shut out, and there’d be fewer voices to protest as America dominated its hemisphere.

      “No NATO for you!” should mean that Russia gets to use Ukraine’s military like a chew toy, and America supplies Ukraine with only intel, and just enough advanced missiles so that they get a good handle on Russia’s abilities, and can plausibly claim after Ukraine has to capitulate that America did all it could. I don’t see America shipping its best tanks to Ukraine, and that’s about the only source left for good ones, as our military would scream at not having them, and the public would scream to see Russia turn them into incredibly expensive junk heaps as untrained Ukrainian crews lacked the training to properly use them, and Russia leveraged its other large advantages against them.

      “You want Ukraine, well, here is our price.” being what America was communicating to Russia, with America having already started taking its cut. Senator Rand Paul voted for more aid while pleading can we just keep track of what’s getting sent, and he was in effect ignored.

      If the above is true expect massive grifting as aid gets sent to rebuild Ukraine, and massive exploitation of the rump state it would become.

      “Sign here, President Zelenskyy, and sign here, here, here, and …. here.”

      But then again, Putin might not be having any of that, and could be keeping his counsel on what Russia will be doing in the days and years ahead.

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    • #494962
      Babel 17
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      That could be coming next.

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    • #494965
      Mr. Mickeys Mom
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      Monkey pox on any more of this “Western” imperialism. And, while we’re at it…  bury every strategy of the PNAC document.

       

       

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    • #494971
      Utopian Leftist
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      that we did this, would it make a lick of difference?

      The world thinks we are all rainbows and Disney castles.

      Until the world recognizes US as the truest villains, nothing will change.

      “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” ~ Krishnamurti
      "Given the choice between a Republican and a Democrat who acts like a Republican, the voter will choose a Republican every time." ~ Harry Truman

    • #494977
      Ohio Barbarian
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      Why would Putin, who just a couple of weeks before had told an EU rep at some peace talks sponsored by Turkey that all they had to do was drop their sanctions on Russia and the gas would flow, destroy his best diplomatic leverage?

      He wouldn’t. If you’re interested, here are my thoughts on the matter as of a few days ago:

      https://ohiobarbarian.substack.com/p/the-nordstream-pipeline-sabotage

      Technically, we just committed an act of war against Germany, not that even the Germans will ever admit that. Or maybe the German people will. Social unrest is in their immediate future.

      Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

      The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.--Julius Nyerere

    • #495010
      Joe Shlabotnik
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      Hiding behind his alzheimer’s like Reagan would be convenient, only unfortunately there will be no hearings, as everyone in Washington is on the same team now when it comes to war profiteering.

      ~ All good things are Wild and Free ~

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