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    • #68591
      Mick063
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      Or they never left.

      Or something…….

      Tin foil hats galore.

      Their information bubble has traveled down the rabbit hole. They are hell bent on warning each other of the dangers of being brainwashed because…… Folks that have been there for years with several thousand posts are actually long term plants (I think they have purged everyone else), just waiting for the opportune moment to strike.

      I mean really……..I put this in the “windmills cause cancer” category. Anyone outside of that bubble must be incredibly amused by the bona fide paranoia. Further, the self importance borders on irritating arrogance. Why in the hell would they be important enough to target?

      What is their average IQ?  They really, really believe they are being infiltrated.

      My mind is blown.

      "I welcome their hatred" Franklin D Roosevelt

    • #68596
      Spirochete
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      What happened?  Did someone imply that Hillary was not a goddess, but a mere mortal?  Or that Obama  was a less than perfect president?  Or that Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard weren’t the twin spawns of Beelzebub?

      • #68619
        Charles
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        Someone probably posted Biden’s congressional voting record. That’s suppose to be classified…

        Bernie: "Not Me. Us"

        • #68649
          KenTankerous
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          I chuckled out loud. Is that a COL?

          "If we define an American fascist as one who in case of conflict puts money and power ahead of human beings, then there are undoubtedly several million fascists in the United States."
          - Henry A. Wallace
          (FDR's Vice President until he was forced out by the corrupt forces of obscene wealth.)

    • #68598
      Bellicose Lugosi
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      At this point, SV is the last place to recruit and promote people into the fold of democratic principles.  Scores of them are anti-union, indifferent to wealth inequality and don’t really believe single payer is something we should strive for.

      The Great Purge of 2016 left all but a few holdouts of liberal philosophy, the rest of us moved on.

      Old, scared and in the way, posting like jackals, yelling into their own asshole to the delight of their fellow asshat fuckwads feeding on the reverberating echo of smug, pompous feedback.

      F that place. It’s nothing but a veneer on a rotted tooth.

       

       

      It's alright Ma, it's life and life only.

      • #68608
        ColorsoftheRainbow
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        I was not there as some forum members here were.

        Do you suppose that place was that way from the get-go, but having concealed, and that it took 2016 to reveal their deception?

        • #68616
          incognito
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          No, it wasn’t! I joined DemUnderground 2 days after GW Bush’s 2000 inauguration when I saw a long “DemocraticUnderground. Com” banner walking through the crowd while watching TV.

          It was Progressive and radically left. It eventually became a forum of some of the most brilliant political minds. We went through 2004, 2008, 2012 elections. Bitter fights, but things remained the same until they changed from moderators to their horrid jury system and changed the platform completely and started making people sign an oath to support the warmongering felon. Then they started purging. The Brownshirts who are still there, would spend their days reporting on people until everyone with a brain was purged. The beginning of the end was the day Will Pitt was banned.

          Skinner proudly announced his new Hillary web site – which died a fast death because she’s so hated. And we also learned Skinner’s wife was employed by the warmongering felon.

          I think he sold out to the Dem Party because the change was a radical turn RIGHT in a very short period of time.

          Now the site is full of nothing but Right Wing assholes who worship at the alter of RepubDems. They HATE progressives.

          • #68651
            KenTankerous
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            True story. For me, the last straw was when they banned Lo0nix, then Manny Goldstein. I walked away and never looked back. Not a single regret about it either. But it still seems tragic.

            I’d like to reiterate: anybody remember The Swarm? They were the internet version of the Westboro Baptist Church.

            "If we define an American fascist as one who in case of conflict puts money and power ahead of human beings, then there are undoubtedly several million fascists in the United States."
            - Henry A. Wallace
            (FDR's Vice President until he was forced out by the corrupt forces of obscene wealth.)

            • #68732
              retired liberal
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              How can one forget the swarm when they make up baseless lies about you to get you banned. The swarm leader in her grave dancing after banning me, made reference to something I had supposedly posted some 2 years earlier. She didn’t say what it was though. 2 years previously? Really?
              SV deserves their fate.

              We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
              If you are wrong, it will be because you are not cynical enough.
              Both major political parties are special interest groups enabling each other for power and money, at the expense of the people they no longer properly serve…
              Always wear a proper mask when out and about. The life you save could be both yours and mine.

        • #68747
          Bellicose Lugosi
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          Incognito said it better than I could.  It was really something back in the day but collapsed into horseshit around 2016.

          It's alright Ma, it's life and life only.

          • #68779
            incognito
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            I use to have withdrawals from the place when it was closed down for maintenance. Seriously. I have always been a political junkie and when that forum went online, it was pure heaven for a bleeding heart, tree-hugging, commie pinko far lefty like me. Being able to opine with thousands of other people who were like-minded was just brilliant. I loved the place.

            And having Will Pitt to bounce stuff around was the best.

            They really did destroy the best forum on the internet. The software and platform were perfect. Skinner was pretty damn cool until he sold out and turn into a pure dickhead. I have never seen a bunch of smarter people in one place before – thankfully, they’re all here now!  I am soooo thankful JPR has adopted us and given us a new home. I love it here too and we have the best of the best that migrated or were forced to migrate because of the ahole Brownshirts.

            • #68829
              Bellicose Lugosi
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              It really was.  The level of discourse circa 2000-2010 compared to now is insane.  I don’t recognize the place anymore.  The frequent posters are insufferable now.  I’ve never seen more conservatives posting on a ‘Democratic’ message board in my life.  It has one useful function now, it serves as a constant reminder that mankind is doomed.

               

               

              It's alright Ma, it's life and life only.

            • #68911
              L0oniX
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              David was never cool. Before Dumyunderpants.orgy he was doing website work for the DLC …married but doing a 3 way with hillabiotch. Then the assbag starts another site for conservative repuke morons …playing both sides of the out house …for money. He’s more than just a sell out… he’s a whore for dems and cons.

              Fuck the DNC and its heard of goats

      • #68638
        PolecatHollerer
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        Very well said!!!!

        If you give a man enough rope, it will be six inches too short. This is not the nature of rope- it is the nature of man.

    • #68629
      David the Gnome
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      More than likely, there are a few.  More than likely there are a few government agents that regularly check out the site, too.  Even JPR might be on their radar.  SV became a lot more mainstream leading up to 2016, the funding drives for the DNC also drove a lot of candidates and their supporters there, even if just to lurk.  I don’t doubt that most of the larger Countries have some agents/informants working social media platforms to promote propaganda.  All the same, not too worried about it.  Too much other shit to worry about.

      Don’t get me wrong, I don’t buy into any of the Russian interference, cold war bull shit.  Honestly, I think it’s probably in their best interests to keep eyes on various social media, to get an idea of what people are thinking, or at least what they are saying.

    • #68636
      GZeusH
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      “They really, really believe they are being infiltrated.”

      How else are they going to get new members??

    • #68640
      L0oniX
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      If it wasn’t for DINOS and RINOS and fuzzy bears the site wouldn’t exist. Yes there was a time when there were a lot of good people and great well informed ops. It was going down hill before Obama declared his candidacy. The fights over Obama and Hillary turned the down hill slide an avalanche. The hive also contributed much to the stench along with some pompous hags and duffers …and of course a few highly esteemed emotionally disturbed lunatics.

      Fuck the DNC and its heard of goats

    • #68641
      Ohio Barbarian
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      Their troll defenses must have been hacked. The one JPRer on that thread was not even attacked, much less accused of being a Russian troll. How disappointing.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #68650
      game meat
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      The obsession they seem to have with being infiltrated by is probably projection. The whole board reads like DNC astroturf. A lot of the accounts on there are almost certainly paid shills.

      Spamming thread after thread with the same copy/paste jobs, over and over, day in and day out, is not normal human behavior. If those are real people posting in good faith, then they must be posting from a psychiatric ward somewhere.

      Why that place is important enough to put any resources into is what I’ve never understood.

      • #68827
        MistaP
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        there was definitely an atmosphere that they really believed the elections were won and, above all, lost on SV and DKos, and that if someone was expelled for their impure purism 1. the SVers had won the argument IRL and 2. the expellee had nowhere to go

        that’s also why had Obama’s command or fear of Trump to synchronized Salon, Slate, Vox, Vice, Daily Beast, HuffPo, RawStory, AlterNet, ThinkProgress, TPMemo, Smirking Chimp, Lawyers Guns Money, EmptyWheel, Mother Jones, The Nation, The Daily Show team, Tom Tomorrow, The Guardian: these had all shown Obama going against his promises with a big perfect smile and Mother wasn’t going to have such … scrutiny: PropOrNot would take care of the rest (including JPR)

        and a lot of the constant posters did seem shut-ins or retirees: it only got worse when they unleashed the private Groups to be the enforcers (I did have to chuckle when some academic hoaxers got a certain PFC’s book chapter published with “men” and “women” swapped out for the ant- and protagonists): everyone was victimizing them, so they weren’t to blame for their lashing-out (I mean, they were Literally Shaking!)

        attacking 85% of your own base, racking up the Hide limits, and then pulling the plug for a week and saying the goddamn GRU targeted you is just frosting on the cupcake

    • #68654
      closeupready
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      @ColorsoftheRainbow

      As others have said, it started as a discussion board for liberals and Democrats who sought a place to express their ideas about political events, and initially, it welcomed just about anyone.  Over time, it morphed into a DLC message board, run as a place primarily to indoctrinate members into neoliberalism.  At first, the standard was, you can support anyone up until primaries, and after a candidate was selected, you were either expected to support them, or else keep your mouth shut.  Advocating for a 3rd party candidate wasn’t always an automatic ban, but became so in time.  Eventually, the standard became essentially, if you cross the mean girls, you are sooo PPR’ed (posting privileges revoked).  lol  So the idea that Russian trolls have invaded SV is comical to me.  It’s no longer where the most interesting discussions are happening, nor is it important.  The brightest people have better places to chat, where you don’t walk on eggshells.

      All the members I enjoyed chatting with either died (like BlondeAtLast), left on their own or were banned.

      The opinions and personal views expressed herein are solely those of the author, and should never be taken seriously.

      • #68822
        MistaP
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        I’d say 2006 was the breaking point: McKinney had her Capitol cop incident and then was manipulated out of her primary, Lieberman lost his primary but still won as a sore loser (so much for “vote third parties and you caused 9/11 and Iraq!!!1111”), and the Dems won the House and had to have an agenda (so the Red-baiters started shrieking about the inevitable “purity purge”)

        that’s when the Dem Establishment’s needs changed from GOTV to stopping the voters from making demands once they were in

      • #68840
        MistaP
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        lots of people whose brains I remember picking for years at a time, most of them forum mods that are now banned from their own damn site–Rug handled both the Pharisees and Elías Calles types adroitly

    • #68761
      bobthedrummer
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      There was a “golden age” there for awhile and it is a fact, not CT, that campaigns, groups, media and everything political has always had operatives of various types involved. That’s life, much much worse now of course with the RW white supremacy of Trump & his supporters.

      All Power to The People

    • #68777
      chknltl
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      Three polls told all for me.
      The first was my own eyes. That poll revealed to me that “half” of SV hated Bernie and swore to say whatever shit they felt like about him all the while crying foul whenever someone even breathed anything bad about their queen.

      The second poll was an actual poll hosted by LOoniX. In it 90% of the membership were for Bernie while 10% were for Queen Hillary.

      Hmmmmm…something was fishy.

      After further observation I came to realize that all that hate-filled noise was coming from the 10%ers and there was a strong likelihood that many of them were sock-puppets!

      A month or so later, LOoniX conducted the same poll again and the results were the same.

      Now, I dunno who LOoniX really is, I just wanna offer up my sincerest gratitude to him or her.

      Thanks to those two polls as well as the hate I saw coming from the 10%ers, I learned that SV had become a propagandist arm for a corrupt Democratic party.

      They are no different than the Free Republic in that they both promote and support corporatists.

      Plus, they can shove their loyality oath firmly between their butt cheeks, that is if it will squeeze past their ears.

    • #68951
      Pam2
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      Come on folks it’s been three years, can we please stop talking about that place?

      I was only a lurker there so it was easy for me to leave but why torture yourself by going back?

      Forget it.

       

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