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  • Ichingcarpenter (4151 posts)
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    The Ukrainian/Hillary connection to Pissgate.

    The deep state campaign against Trump opened new grounds today with the publication of completely fake and thereby unverifiable anonymous assertions which include the smear that Trump had some fun in a Moscow hotel and that Russian secret services is using that to manipulate him.

    Like many smears against Trump via proxies of the Clinton presidential campaign these new ones seem to origin from Ukraine related sources and Ukrainian “nationalist” (aka fascist) putsch supporters.

    The new assertions about Trump come in 35 pages of “reports” by an anonymous (claimed) former British intelligence operator working for a private U.S. company with dates ranging from June 20 2016 to December 13 2016. They say that Russia has some tapes of Trump watching sex games in 2013, they claim that Trump campaign officials coordinated the Clinton campaign leaks with Russia and that the Russian President Putin was highly involved in all of this.

    Here is how the claimed former intelligence operator typically describes his sources in these “reports”:

    Speaking to a trusted compatriot in June 2016 sources A and B, a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure and a former top level Russian intelligence officer still active inside the Kremlin respectively, the Russian authorities had been cultivating and supporting U.S. Republican presidential candidate, Donald TRUMP for at least five years. Source B asserted that the TRUMP operation was both supported and directed by Russian President Vladimir PUTIN.
    The anonymous former British operator hears from an anonymous asserted compatriot what two anonymous sources, asserted to have access to inner Russian circles, claim to have heard somewhere that something happened in the Kremlin.

    They assert that Trump was supported and directed by Putin himself five years ago while even a year ago no one would have bet a penny on Trump gaining any political significant position or even the presidency.




    The article tracks the Clinton mafia/ Ukrainian connection later in the article

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  • Ichingcarpenter (4151 posts)
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    1. Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire: Politico

    Donald Trump wasn’t the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country.

    Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.
    A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.

    The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia. But they were far less concerted or centrally directed than Russia’s alleged hacking and dissemination of Democratic emails.


    ~more of the connection



  • elias39 (4466 posts)
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    2. Notice that no-one is talking about Herself suddenly?

    The adoring media has left her in the lurch. Fickle bastards.

    What’s going on with the FBI investigations of Herself and her leaking classifieds? What’s going on with the (alleged) investigation of the Clinton Foundation?

    “Name, no, nothing is nameable, tell, no, nothing can be told, what then, I don't know, I shouldn't have begun.” ― Samuel Beckett, Stories and Texts for Nothing
    • Ichingcarpenter (4151 posts)
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      3. These stories are another component to the big picture

      in regards to the Russian/US / Ukraine  fight we see going on between McCain, Trump, Clinton and petro factions. … Ukraine is going into fracking big time and that didn’t come from Exxon but from US govt push.  It will destroy their bread basket by poisoning their water table that helps feed Europe.

      The problem with Maddow is she no longer tries to see both sides of this and pushes a US govt perceptive slant. Which is why I posted this.