Today’s Bidenism: The people coming on these [H-1B] visas have built this country.”

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    • #331658
      jbnw
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      Pardon the source, but it doesn’t appear to have made it into mainstream news sources. This is through https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/06/29/joe-biden-h-1b-foreign-workers-built-this-country/ from NBC News.

      Joe Biden told NBC News that he would immediately lift President Donald Trump’s June 22 moratorium on the inflow of H-1B contract workers if he wins the 2020 election.

      Trump “ended H1B visas the rest of this year,” Biden said in a June 27 town hall meeting organized by NBC News. “That will not be in my administration.”

      “The people coming on these [H-1B] visas have built this country,” Biden added.

      Comment: I can’t say this is a slip of the tongue or a gaffe – it’s just Biden being for corporate America. While H-1B was supposed to only be for positions that couldn’t be filled by US citizens, in practice it’s been inexpensive foreign workers. I say that as I’ve worked in software since the early 80s, and over time more and more of my job interviews have been with foreign workers already hired by the company. I was never hired by any of those corporations – as a senior engineer, I suspect I was over their price point.

      And, of course, there’s also the coronavirus issue – people from the US are not welcome in Europe and vice-versa.

      And of course it wouldn’t be in Biden’s administration – the moratorium is only through the end of this year.

      Nothing will fundamentally change.

    • #331665
      Ohio Barbarian
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      There was no need to say this now, even though I’m sure Biden meant it if he said he would lift the restrictions as that is what his donors want, but Trump will twist it into saying Biden is all for replacing American jobs with immigrants.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      HassleCat
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      The H1B program has been abused, and has been very bad for American workers. If that matters to you. Probably not, considering your similar views on M4A. In spite of what your big donors want, you might try listening to the people once in a while.

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      And all supported by US Government policies.

      When a VP from an acquiring company first met the organization a couple of years ago he started with saying what he was most proud of was setting up a development organization in India. Let’s just say that didn’t go over well with us as we started wondering what his plans were to replace us.


      @hasslecat

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      jbnw
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      @bearian Rather than have them telecommute from India, I’d rather US citizens hired who went through, and paid for, their education in the US. Yes, there should be exceptions – but they should be exceptions, not the general rule.

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      Punxsutawney
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      That’s HRC by her own description.

      Same as it ever was, same as it ever was.

      In America, “Liberty” means “Free to Die in Service of Capital” - Amfortas the hippie

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      It gave me a flashback to reading first year college English essays. The phrasing makes one’s head hurt.

      He’s trying to say they H1B visa people have made a valuable contribution to this country. I think that’s insulting to the people who really have made a valuable contribution to this country.  What a stupid, dumbass thing to say. Their contribution is to cut Americans out of jobs.  Tell it to my neighbor who had to retire way early from her software engineering job at Prudential in Newark.  She even had to train her successors, tantamount to digging your own grave.

       

       

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      @punxsutawney That one I didn’t know – but I shouldn’t be surprised.

      Hillary Clinton co-founded the Senate India Caucus, which anti-offshoring advocates say champions “issues important to India, including outsourcing and H-1B and L-1 visas.”

      Clinton in 2005: “I am delighted to be the Senator from Punjab as well as from New York.”

      Clinton has called for nearly doubling the controversial H-1B guest worker program—suggesting that American workers lack the skills to fill American jobs. She has also defended the cheap labor practices of an Indian outsourcing firm, to which the Clinton Foundation has financial ties: “We are not against all outsourcing; we are not in favor of putting up fences,” she said.

      Shortly after the CEO of HCL—the Indian firm that helped lay off 250 American Disney workers in Orlando— called American tech graduates “unemployable”, Bill Clinton delivered a speech to HCL to the tune of nearly a quarter of a million dollars at Disney World in Orlando.

      It’s from https://www.theindianpanorama.news/unitedstates/senator-punjab-hillary-clinton-masterminded-global-scheme-replace-american-workers/ .

      And I checked – there’s still a Senate India caucus. I’d much rather that the United States Senate dealt with “issues important to United States Citizens, including the impact of outsourcing and H-1B visas.” But that won’t be the case if Biden becomes President with our uniparty system – like a unibrow over left and right eyes, but all the same.

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      @njcher , but it seems to me he’s trying to blur the distinction between temporary workers (those with h-1b’s) and permanent immigrants.

       

    • #331794
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      @jbnw

      Job #1 for both parties is to keep wages low, and labor weak. And as someone who is married to a former tech worker, it’s insulting to say the least to question the abilities of American tech workers. And that statement alone is why HRC was a non starter for me in 2016.

      The rethugs like to blame brown skinned people while the Dems like to accuse you of bigotry or worse when one objects to things like H1-B’s, but both parties have the same goal. I may not agree when a poster here says they will never vote for a Democrat, but I won’t criticize them in the least either. Actions like this and Obama’s full throated support of TPP prove how the leadership views working people in this country.

      In America, “Liberty” means “Free to Die in Service of Capital” - Amfortas the hippie

    • #331804
      jbnw
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      They are almost always renewed or converted.


      @surrealamerican

    • #331829
      jbnw
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      @punxsutawney I couldn’t support HRC either, with warhawk foreign policy as my primary issue, but there was no shortage of reasons!

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