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    • #476428
      Passionate Progressive
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      The history of military technologies teaches that within that evolution, there is symbiotic relationship to medical science that demands improvements in medicine.   The Civil War, the last conflict where military technologies exceeded those of the health care technologies exemplifies that symbiosis with the creation major advances in the fields of medicine. 

      minie ball

      Trivia question:  What three major advances in medical technologies were attributed to the American Civil War…Participants have the opportunities to identify one or all of the three advances…..The above picture is a hint!

      The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....Martin Luther King '63

      It takes all the technical proficiency our system can provide to make up for the woeful lack of popular support and political savvy of most of the regimes that the West has thus far sought to prop up.........Bernard Fall

    • #476430
      Pam2
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      Amputations? Bullet removal?

      • #476435
        Passionate Progressive
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        As Alex Trebek would say, ‘Can you rephrase your answer’….iow (this is a give-away, almost of one of the three)…..what military ‘technology’ was the result/solution….What you have defined is the problem @pam2

        The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....Martin Luther King '63

        It takes all the technical proficiency our system can provide to make up for the woeful lack of popular support and political savvy of most of the regimes that the West has thus far sought to prop up.........Bernard Fall

    • #476431
      Pam2
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      • #476437
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        I think they were much later.

        The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....Martin Luther King '63

        It takes all the technical proficiency our system can provide to make up for the woeful lack of popular support and political savvy of most of the regimes that the West has thus far sought to prop up.........Bernard Fall

    • #476432
      surrealAmerican
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      … would be one.

      • #476444
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        but not a result.

        The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....Martin Luther King '63

        It takes all the technical proficiency our system can provide to make up for the woeful lack of popular support and political savvy of most of the regimes that the West has thus far sought to prop up.........Bernard Fall

    • #476434
      NV Wino
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      Surgery.

      “As we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore.” Barbara Lee
      “Politicians and pro athletes: The only people who still get paid when they lose.” William Rivers Pitt

      • #476440
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        are mutually exclusive….The specific technology I’m looking for @NVwino is sort of the result of the surgery….

        The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....Martin Luther King '63

        It takes all the technical proficiency our system can provide to make up for the woeful lack of popular support and political savvy of most of the regimes that the West has thus far sought to prop up.........Bernard Fall

    • #476436
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      Hand washing etc.

      “As we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore.” Barbara Lee
      “Politicians and pro athletes: The only people who still get paid when they lose.” William Rivers Pitt

      • #476441
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        to over all advances….What I’m thinking of is a ‘major’ development…..

        The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....Martin Luther King '63

        It takes all the technical proficiency our system can provide to make up for the woeful lack of popular support and political savvy of most of the regimes that the West has thus far sought to prop up.........Bernard Fall

    • #476438
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      .

      “As we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore.” Barbara Lee
      “Politicians and pro athletes: The only people who still get paid when they lose.” William Rivers Pitt

      • #476443
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        Don’t know when that came along not that ‘micro’….something (3 processes) that perhaps are taken for granted today…

        The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....Martin Luther King '63

        It takes all the technical proficiency our system can provide to make up for the woeful lack of popular support and political savvy of most of the regimes that the West has thus far sought to prop up.........Bernard Fall

    • #476445
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      … for evaluating and prioritizing wounded patients?

    • #476451
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      @pam2


      @nvwino


      @surrealamerican

      The Civil War proved to be a catalyst for American medicine that in the early 19th century was largely based upon homeopathy, quackery and heroics.   During the American Civil War, the Minie ball, improving range and accuracy, came to prominence in where it was found to inflict significantly more serious wounds than earlier round musket balls.

      According to the Museum of Civil War Medicine in Baltimore, the civil war military tactics provided advances in prostheses (results of amputations); plastic surgery; and the Medical Service Corps (ambulances, nurses, etc., etc.)…

      Here are the three prizes to be divided evenly.

      https://www.civilwarmed.org/online-resources/

      https://youtu.be/v_nmoxPyCw8

       

      https://youtu.be/QXj1meKPMR0

       

      The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....Martin Luther King '63

      It takes all the technical proficiency our system can provide to make up for the woeful lack of popular support and political savvy of most of the regimes that the West has thus far sought to prop up.........Bernard Fall

    • #476452
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      Cause that’s mostly what field surgeons did then.

      Hitler 1944: Kiev is to be held to the last man.
      Biden 2022: Kiev is to be held to the last Ukrainian.

    • #476453
      Pam2
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      Thanks for saying we all won even though we didn’t exactly. 🙂

    • #476454
      GZeusH
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      In previous wars, surgeons weren’t even practiced enough to find and retrieve a bullet.

      Hitler 1944: Kiev is to be held to the last man.
      Biden 2022: Kiev is to be held to the last Ukrainian.

    • #476458
      Mr. Mickeys Mom
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      They are a married couple (respiratory therapist, nurse practitioner) who live near the civil war grounds and know this stuff so well.

      Great trivia @PassionateProgressive!

      Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

      • #476478
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        @mr.mickeysmom

        I hope you check out the prizes one of which is online resources of the Museum of Civil War Medicine….I hadn’t checked it out until recently….and there is some good stuff there….

        Here it is….wonderful what museums do now with remote learning.

        https://www.civilwarmed.org/online-resources/

        Of note, I used to bike at the Civil War battlefield parks in Maryland, Pennsylvania, Virginia and West Virginia…Did many rides – especially Antietam and Gettysburg…I used to have this wonderful book – Biking Through Civil War History – which illuminated many rides with history and adventure.

        The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....Martin Luther King '63

        It takes all the technical proficiency our system can provide to make up for the woeful lack of popular support and political savvy of most of the regimes that the West has thus far sought to prop up.........Bernard Fall

        • #476488
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          I think I visited that museum, too. Amazing vistas overlooking those battlefields right around where they actually live.

          Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

          • #476513
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            all around there…(this was then about 10+ years go)….a short ride around the battlefield (9 miles); a long ride around the environs (20 + miles); Shepherdstown, Frederick, and Harpers Ferry.

            Regarding Sharpsburg, they used to have annual celebrations of the Battle of Antietam – and I used to come up and attend these and spend a few days at the Inn of Antietam so that I could take advantage of the celebration with all its guest lectures:  about the music, the Irish, the history, etc., etc., etc…The Irish and the Civil War was a feature I tremendously enjoyed because they had musicians (Derrick Warfield and the Wolftones) come over from Ireland…lots of other folk music ensembles – hard to take it all in….historical lectures, reenactors etc., etc….I recall ‘discovering’  the celebration when I ran out of water on a bike-ride and had to stop at the Inn of Antietam – met the owners and the rest is history as they say….Last event I attended was September 2001 – problematic holding the celebration and getting the guests flown in because it was right after 9/11…But they managed to hold it….After 2001, the annual celebrations seemed to decline….the organizers were running out of steam…and I was pondering retirement and went on to grad school.

            The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....Martin Luther King '63

            It takes all the technical proficiency our system can provide to make up for the woeful lack of popular support and political savvy of most of the regimes that the West has thus far sought to prop up.........Bernard Fall

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