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    • #375105
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      (AP) Dozens of angry supporters of President Donald Trump converged on vote-counting centers in Detroit and Phoenix as the returns went against him Wednesday in the two key states, while thousands of anti-Trump protesters demanding a complete tally of the ballots in the still-undecided election took to the streets in cities across the U.S.

      “Stop the count!” the Trump supporters chanted in Detroit. “Stop the steal!” they said in Phoenix.

      The protests came as the president insisted without evidence that there were major problems with the voting and the ballot counting, especially with mail-in votes, and as Republicans filed suit in various states over the election.

      Wearing Trump gear, the Phoenix protesters filled much of the parking lot at the Maricopa County election center, and members of the crowd chanted, “Fox News sucks!” in anger over the network declaring Joe Biden the winner in Arizona.

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      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #375106
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      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #375112
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      @ohiobarbarian yeah I must admit I love the smell of Trumper disarray in the morning. 👍

      "If we define an American fascist as one who in case of conflict puts money and power ahead of human beings, then there are undoubtedly several million fascists in the United States."
      - Henry A. Wallace
      (FDR's Vice President until he was forced out by the corrupt forces of obscene wealth.)

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    • #375123
      Ohio Barbarian
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      @janboehmermann It doesn’t appear to be working this time, though. The authorities were prepared, had jackbooted thugs with guns and pepper spray and stuff at all the boards of elections to keep them out.

      Besides, there haven’t been more than a couple of hundred at any election office so far. The Ohio state capitol had a demonstration, but it was about BLM and pandemic-related economic issues more than anything else, and they were mocking the few Trump supporters who showed up protesting the “rigged election” in the swing states.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #375127
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      and relentlessly promoted by the MSM had their desired effect.

    • #375130
      ArtfromArk
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      In fact, he won a Florida State Supreme Court ruling to COUNT THE GODDAM VOTES!!! Which was overturned by Bush lackeys on the US Supreme Court.

      “There’s a new spirit abroad in the land. The old days of ‘grab and greed’ are on their way out. We’re beginning to think of what we owe the other fellow, not just what we’re compelled to give him. The time’s coming… when we shan’t be able to fill our bellies in comfort while others go hungry, sleep in warm beds while others shiver in the cold.... And God willing, we’ll live to see that day…” Basil Rathbone,"Sherlock Holmes Faces Death" (Universal 1943)

    • #375133
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      To actual riots as the country goes down the drain.

      In America, “Liberty” means “Free to Die in Service of Capital” - Amfortas the hippie.

      Most of today’s elites have the moral and social reasoning capacities of spoiled toddlers.

      “People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage...but the privileged also feel that their privileges, however egregious they may seem to others, are a solemn, basic, God-right. The sensitivity of the poor to injustice is a trivial thing c

    • #375137
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      were yammering about “Sore Loserman” 20 years ago?

      “There’s a new spirit abroad in the land. The old days of ‘grab and greed’ are on their way out. We’re beginning to think of what we owe the other fellow, not just what we’re compelled to give him. The time’s coming… when we shan’t be able to fill our bellies in comfort while others go hungry, sleep in warm beds while others shiver in the cold.... And God willing, we’ll live to see that day…” Basil Rathbone,"Sherlock Holmes Faces Death" (Universal 1943)

    • #375148
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      I think he should have demanded a general strike, and the D’s in Congress could have refused to certify the rigged results, but the Senate Democrats wimped out, as usual. @artfromark

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #375168
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      Trump followers want to recreate the events of the year 2000.

      I would like to remind you that U.S. health insurance companies do not contribute anything to health care. They are only a PARASITIC middle man receiving an undeserved cut of "FREE MONEY".

      Me

    • #375424
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      Proof positive that our education system has taken a dump.

      I'm Snort McDork and I approved this message.

      "I like birdy num-nums"

    • #375425
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      Beat the living shit out of them, and ship them off to Guantanamo Bay.

      "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable". - John F. Kennedy

    • #375922
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      I disagree. He didn’t have any support in the Senate, even from Ted Kennedy (which really pissed me off). The national Democratic Party abandoned him, everyone except the Black Caucus in the House, and I think one reason for that is that he realized that the NAFTA treaty he had signed on to was a bunch of bullshit. Also, he started to distance himself from the Clinton gang over the Monica Lewinski (and probably other) crap, and on top of that he signed and promoted the Kyoto Protocol (remember that?) and that pissed off a lot of Demopublicans. And on top of that, there were armed goons protesting in front of his home at the Naval Observatory, telling him to “get out of Cheney’s house”. What could he do? We really need to give Al Gore more credit that what is attributed to him.

       

      Let me also remind you that his father was one of only 3 Southern US Senators who refused to sign the racist “Southern Manifesto” in 1956 (Estes Kefauver and Lyndon B. Johnson being the other two).  He learned a lot from his dad. And unlike Biden and Hillary, he never got a second chance to run for the presidency, even though he was the legitimate winner of the 2000 election.  He’s much maligned, but he was, and is, a good guy.

      “There’s a new spirit abroad in the land. The old days of ‘grab and greed’ are on their way out. We’re beginning to think of what we owe the other fellow, not just what we’re compelled to give him. The time’s coming… when we shan’t be able to fill our bellies in comfort while others go hungry, sleep in warm beds while others shiver in the cold.... And God willing, we’ll live to see that day…” Basil Rathbone,"Sherlock Holmes Faces Death" (Universal 1943)

      • #375955
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        Al Gore ran a terrible campaign. @artfromark , were you even here to witness it? It was pathetically lame. Gore came across as either wooden or condescendingly elitist, and he is a condescending elitist. He couldn’t even carry his home state. Even Trump and Biden did that.

        The only reason Biden won was because Trump botched the pandemic and resulting economic depression as badly as he did. He offered all voters who make less than a quarter million a year nothing. Just Trump sucks! Which he does.

        Any competent political party offering most people something would have won the Senate and had a huge majority in the House in economic conditions like this. The Democrats are so terrible that they ran Republican Lite candidates for Senate and mostly lost, and a bunch of CIA Democratic incumbents lost their seats in the House.

        They’ll finish losing the House in 2022, and if there is an election in 2024–which is by no means certain–we’ll get either Trump or someone worse. Kamala Harris has no chance.

        It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

        Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

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          He signed the Kyoto Protocal, fer crying out loud! His father was an anti-segretionist, and he turned against the Clintonist faction of the Democratic Party. That’s why he lost support from them. And do you believe that George MF Bush was a BETTER candidate???

          “There’s a new spirit abroad in the land. The old days of ‘grab and greed’ are on their way out. We’re beginning to think of what we owe the other fellow, not just what we’re compelled to give him. The time’s coming… when we shan’t be able to fill our bellies in comfort while others go hungry, sleep in warm beds while others shiver in the cold.... And God willing, we’ll live to see that day…” Basil Rathbone,"Sherlock Holmes Faces Death" (Universal 1943)

    • #376666
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      I would assume you have, but I will tell you, I was at a restaurant in Tiptonville, Tennessee, just after the Supreme Court decision, and I overheard a bunch of “good ol’ boys” gloating about Gore’s loss. They were just repeating lines from Rush Limbaugh. It was obvious they couldn’t think for themselves. Tennessee is a redneck state, just like my home state of Arkansas, and half of the population doesn’t know its ass from a hole in the ground.

      “There’s a new spirit abroad in the land. The old days of ‘grab and greed’ are on their way out. We’re beginning to think of what we owe the other fellow, not just what we’re compelled to give him. The time’s coming… when we shan’t be able to fill our bellies in comfort while others go hungry, sleep in warm beds while others shiver in the cold.... And God willing, we’ll live to see that day…” Basil Rathbone,"Sherlock Holmes Faces Death" (Universal 1943)

    • #376669
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      @artfromark Because Gore’s part of the liberal elite that betrayed them with NAFTA, didn’t deliver on promised health care reform, sold out to corporations, and then calls people who refuse to keep voting for them idiots who don’t know their asses from holes in the ground.

      Blaming and insulting the voters is a proven way to lose, but Democrats keep right on doing it.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #376672
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      Tennessee is a REDNECK state. Just like Arkansas. Those guys didn’t dislike Al Gore because of some supposed “liberal elite” bullshit, they disliked him because of Rush Limbaugh and the Kyoto Protocol. Have you ever personally known any rednecks? I grew up around them. For the most part, they’re a bunch a f’ing bullies who throw beer cans at bicyclists and want to beat up on foreigners. That’s what Al Gore was dealing with in Tennessee. And I’ll tell you another thing– I rode my bicycle through Tennessee back in the 1970s– so many rednecks, I vowed to never take another bicycle trip through that state.

      “There’s a new spirit abroad in the land. The old days of ‘grab and greed’ are on their way out. We’re beginning to think of what we owe the other fellow, not just what we’re compelled to give him. The time’s coming… when we shan’t be able to fill our bellies in comfort while others go hungry, sleep in warm beds while others shiver in the cold.... And God willing, we’ll live to see that day…” Basil Rathbone,"Sherlock Holmes Faces Death" (Universal 1943)

    • #376682
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      @artfromark They’re really not bad, and I know others are far worse. But I understand why liberal elitists piss them off. They’ve certainly pissed on me enough for years because I won’t vote for someone with whom I disagree on important policies, and they are usually very financially comfortable people who are set and smug.

      I’ve never had a redneck relative or Republican tell me that a vote for the Green was a vote for Bush or Trump, or that it was my duty to vote for the lesser of two evils and if I didn’t I was guilty of some crime of moral turpitude. Many of those same rednecks just voted for a $15 minimum wage in Florida, and pot initiatives passed all over the place. They’ll respond to politicians who offer them something. Democrats don’t, so what do you expect?

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

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      The rednecks I dealt with in the ’70s to ’90s were just plain ornery, as we used to say. Some of them couldn’t stand to see someone on a bicycle, and that was in the aftermath of the ’70s oil shocks. They’ll NEVER vote for a progressive, and many of them migrated to the Republicans after the Democrats repudiated segregation and the KKK in the 1960s.

      “There’s a new spirit abroad in the land. The old days of ‘grab and greed’ are on their way out. We’re beginning to think of what we owe the other fellow, not just what we’re compelled to give him. The time’s coming… when we shan’t be able to fill our bellies in comfort while others go hungry, sleep in warm beds while others shiver in the cold.... And God willing, we’ll live to see that day…” Basil Rathbone,"Sherlock Holmes Faces Death" (Universal 1943)

    • #376688
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      @artfromark I have to deal with them sometimes, and I don’t think we can just write off the 68 or 71 or however many millions of people who voted for Trump. Some of them, sure, but all of them? I also don’t believe that all of those people voted for Trump because they were racist. For one thing, Trump increased support among Latinos and Blacks and gays.

      I think things are more complicated than liberal broad-brushing admits. The reverse on the right wing side of the commentariat class is, of course, equally guilty of broad-brushing. To paraphrase Trump, there are very bad people on both sides.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

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        Arkansas Democrats switched sides with the Republicans in the 1970s, after Dale Bumpers replaced Winthrop Rockefeller as governor. Arkansas has NEVER had a decent Republican governor since. And the current Republican governor rejected his Democratic predecessor’s acceptance of expanded
        Medicaid, which has cost my family $$$. So I’ll NEVER vote for a #$a%& Republican ever again.

        “There’s a new spirit abroad in the land. The old days of ‘grab and greed’ are on their way out. We’re beginning to think of what we owe the other fellow, not just what we’re compelled to give him. The time’s coming… when we shan’t be able to fill our bellies in comfort while others go hungry, sleep in warm beds while others shiver in the cold.... And God willing, we’ll live to see that day…” Basil Rathbone,"Sherlock Holmes Faces Death" (Universal 1943)

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        “There’s a new spirit abroad in the land. The old days of ‘grab and greed’ are on their way out. We’re beginning to think of what we owe the other fellow, not just what we’re compelled to give him. The time’s coming… when we shan’t be able to fill our bellies in comfort while others go hungry, sleep in warm beds while others shiver in the cold.... And God willing, we’ll live to see that day…” Basil Rathbone,"Sherlock Holmes Faces Death" (Universal 1943)

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