Trump Fans were Stranded in Freezing Weather After his Omaha Rally
October 28, 2020 at 2:12 PM - Views: 111 #372334
The above video & this one were taken around 10:15pm. The #Trump rally ended around 8:45pm. Some just gave up and walked from the airfield, back to wherever they parked. It was about 32° out at the time. Many had already spent hours outside as they waited for POTUS to arrive. pic.twitter.com/JYXCLypTQl
— Jeff Paul (@Jeff_Paul) October 28, 2020
You got to wonder why anyone gives a crap about this heartless wanabe dictator. He treats thousands of his elderly fans terribly. Why do they vote for him. Anyway, make sure you have a ride home before going to a Trump event even if the bus driver says he’s coming back.
Here’s a link to the story: https://www.google.com/amp/s/money.yahoo.com/amphtml/hundreds-trump-fans-were-stranded-095105013.html
Just a psychopath being a psychopath. He doesn’t care about anyone but himself.
October 28, 2020 at 2:36 PM #372342Mr. Mickeys MomModerator
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I wonder when the acknowledgment switch will go, “click” ?
Hell, no... I'm not giving up...
October 28, 2020 at 2:37 PM #372343N2DocParticipant
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Probably most are proud of their sacrifice to see their God-Emperor…..
October 28, 2020 at 2:45 PM #372348HalfCentury ManParticipant
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To “own” libs.
It is “challanging” to argue with people who aren’t quite in the same world as we are.
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
John F. Kennedy: 13 March 1962.
October 28, 2020 at 3:33 PM #372365jerry611Participant
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You don’t seem to understand these voters that go to those rallies are willing to walk over broken glass to vote for this man.
So getting stranded in freezing weather is nothing.
October 28, 2020 at 3:45 PM #372369
October 28, 2020 at 3:50 PM #372372N2DocParticipant
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@pam2 – Didn’t you hear? Trump is saying he ended the Pandemic! Problem solved!
(sarcasm if it isn’t apparent)
October 28, 2020 at 4:29 PM #372388
there may be some who would walk on broken glass, but if it were their idol who threw it in their path?
fact is, little man can’t even keep his own disciples safe. at some point it the penny drops. maybe after you’re over 60 & stood in the under 40 weather for hours — waiting for little man to arrive, to finish his speech, waiting for the buses to come & realizing they weren’t coming, waiting for help…
if he can’t arrange safe & timely bus service for his own event, why would anyone trust him with anything bigger?
October 28, 2020 at 6:53 PM #372442salemcourtParticipant
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The only possible reason I have discovered so far for his support among the poor is for the last three years, real wages for the bottom 10% have increased every year after being in the negative territory from 1980 to 2016. See figure C in this link. They claim that the labor market was tight during the last four years.
October 28, 2020 at 7:50 PM #372457Ohio BarbarianModerator
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Many of us on the left have learned over the years that the Democrats simply will not take care of us whether we vote for them or not. We sometimes forget that the same has been true of the Republicans for at least as long, though they usually do something to appease their base on social issues.
But leaving your supporters literally out in the cold? That tends to piss people off, and another lesson from Politics 101 is that a pissed-off somebody isn’t going to vote for you.
It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs
Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman
October 29, 2020 at 1:47 AM #372557Pam2Participant
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Did Biden say “sub zero”? 32 degrees is not sub zero Joe.
October 29, 2020 at 2:55 PM #372664retired liberalParticipant
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So at least there is that. If it were to be below that, then Biden would be correct. We know he is always Right.
We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
If you are wrong, it will be because you are not cynical enough.
Both major political parties are special interest groups enabling each other for power and money, at the expense of the people they no longer properly serve…
Always wear a proper mask when out and about. The life you save could be both yours and mine.
October 29, 2020 at 3:38 AM #3725763fingerbrownParticipant
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@fasttense, Why do they continue to follow Trump? Because way too many rightwingers live off hate and resentment of others, and Trump is an expert at feeding them hatred and resentments of others. Unfortunately for the rest of us, it seems to be one of the most important requirements that they expect from their elected officials.
All governments lie to their citizen's, but only Americans believe theirs.
October 29, 2020 at 9:05 AM #372616
“The only possible reason I have discovered so far for his support among the poor is for the last three years, real wages for the bottom 10% have increased every year after being in the negative territory from 1980 to 2016. See figure C in this link. They claim that the labor market was tight during the last four years”
Chart C, “The 95th percentile continues to pull away from middle- and low-wage workers”
If I’m reading Chart C right, there were 4 years of wage growth preceding Trump & 2 years of growth since he became president, but a drop 2018-2019. My interpretation of the chart is supported by this text from the article:
“From 2018 to 2019, the fastest growth continued at the top (4.5% at the 95th percentile), while median wages grew 1.0% over the year and wages at the bottom fell (-0.7% at the 10th percentile).”
My apologies for the lengthy explanation:
The “0” on Chart C is the baseline real wage of 1979. You can see a percent number when you hover the cursor on any line on the chart above or below that zero line. Above the line percents are positive, below the line they are negative. However, that doesn’t mean wage growth is all positive above the line & negative below it.
For example, in 2013 the “hover” at the 95th percentile is 41.4%. In 2014 it is 39.4%. That represents a drop in real wages for 2014 against the 1979 baseline.
It’s also a drop in real (1979) wages against 2013 wages (in real 1979 dollars). It’s shown as a “positive” number because wages are still above the 1979 baseline.
Similarly, in 2012 the “hover” at the 10th percentile is -7.3%. 2013 = -6.7%, 2014 = -5.9%, 2015 = -1.5%, 2016 = -.06%. That series actually represents 4 years of real wage growth, nearly 7 percentage points worth.
That growth, however, still didn’t bring wages up to the 1979 baseline real wage (which I assume = the inflation-adjusted equivalent of the 1979 wage).
The real growth continued in 2017 (+3.5%) but is shown as positive because wages at the bottom finally crossed the 1979 baseline. IOW, in 2017 the lowest 10% of workers finally made more “real” (1979) money than their 1979 equivalents.
In 2018, weak growth of less than 1% continues against the 1979 baseline (+3.5% to +4.1%).
In 2019 however, wages were only 3.3% of the 1979 baseline, versus 4.1% in 2018.
That’s a drop in “real 1979” wages compared to 2018. But it’s still positive in comparison with 1979.
If wage growth at the bottom were the reason for Trump’s support, the previous administration should have reaped more benefit. But it didn’t.
Besides which, none of the growth at the bottom has been very strong and is offset by other living costs that have risen much more (esp housing).
Wage growth at the bottom also doesn’t explain Reagan’s popularity, as his admin was a wage disaster at the bottom.
But wage growth at the top percentiles explains both Reagan and Trump.
October 29, 2020 at 1:51 PM #372651
Trump left people stranded because he doesn’t pay! pic.twitter.com/hjvfAizL5q
— Jacqueline (@jptrib1) October 29, 2020
It’s how Trump rolls. He comes in, claims he will pay and promises whatever they want to hear, then skips town and says so sue me. Very few small businesses can afford to sue for a short term job. Then next time Trump comes into town, he screws over another guy. Eventually everyone refuses his business but he gets a lot of free work before that happens.
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October 29, 2020 at 4:26 PM #372687salemcourtParticipant
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@CMT It seems that the chart says cumulative wage increase was -0.6% in 2016 and went positive in 2017. Not sure what all this means. Other than this bit of data, I can see no other reason for this strong support from the uneducated and poor. IMO, it definitely is not racism, as so many on the left as well as this site claim.
October 29, 2020 at 7:40 PM #372734
“says cumulative wage increase was -0.6% in 2016 and went positive in 2017”
The -0.6% does not represent negative growth, it represents distance under the 1979 baseline.
The positive percent (3.5%) in 2017 represents distance above the 1979 baseline — which dropped to 3.3% in 2019. That 3.3% = a slight drop in wage levels from 2018 — but still an increase from the 1979 baseline.
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