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    • #498145
      Babel 17
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      Don't Kill the Whale
      Don't feed the trolls

    • #498147
      ozoneman
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      That will boost revenues for the ailing U.S. media.

    • #498152
      Dunatus
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      But this will get shitlibs in a twist.

    • #498155
      Passionate Progressive
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      not it’s cause.

      The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....Martin Luther King '63

      It takes all the technical proficiency our system can provide to make up for the woeful lack of popular support and political savvy of most of the regimes that the West has thus far sought to prop up.........Bernard Fall

    • #498157
      jbnw
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      I’ve never seen a US President censored before – well, at least in the US.

    • #498164
      jbnw
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      52.4% yes, 47.6% no.

      Over 12,200,000 votes now at around a million votes per hour.

    • #498174
      mrdmk
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      So, those in the media who do focus on Trump say, “Everyone is focusing on Trump. It is becoming a big problem!”

      It is circular flagellation with the media and this supposed problem with Trump.

      Furthermore, it is like, the media cannot help themselves with, “Trump said this… Trump said that…”

      Yet the problem becomes clear when the matter is identified, Trump is nothing but a sales job.

      If you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit WC Fields

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    • #498193
      doh1304
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      Maybe if Elon Musk bought Google I wouldn’t have to go to the middle of page 3 to find out his first name. A dead comic actor? An insurance marketer? A frozen custard shop? Ok, the chocolate I sort of understand, but an elementary school? A trucking company? An accounting firm?  A bar/pizza parlor? A Catholic high school? The Speaker of the Connecticut house? (I wonder how he feels) A public library? A dentist? A city councilwoman in Virginia? 3 offers to buy him from Amazon?

    • #498208
      jbnw
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      last night when he was reinstated.

      Nothing else in the world was considered more important to Americans.

      I can just imagine the news coverage when he posts again – he hasn’t yet, and may not – he now has his own social media platform.

    • #498216
      Average Gazoo
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      It seems increasingly likely that the Dems will obsess about Trump for the next 18 months, spend most of their ammo on him and then face someone else in the GE.

      Be the Change

      • #498229
        Utopian Leftist
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        After the Dems shoot their wad at Frump, it’ll be Rhonda to the rescue! Rhonda Santos, I mean. Help me Rhonda . . ..

        After all, the Repugnantcunt party is not without other scary monsters. None that the Dems will profit from as much as they have from Frump, but plenty who would step up to fill Frump’s gilded vacuum.

        “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” ~ Krishnamurti
        "Given the choice between a Republican and a Democrat who acts like a Republican, the voter will choose a Republican every time." ~ Harry Truman

      • #498230
        djean111
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        That raid on Mar-Lago, incessant yapping, IMO, anything to deflect on what has been happening.

        SV, for example, has been chock full of Trump yipping for years and years – and is now whinging that OMG, the news will be full of Trump! Complete lack of self-awareness, it is hilarious.

        America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

        "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

        A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

    • #498234
      doh1304
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      but I have a friend who honestly believes that Trump was a worse president than Bush The Lesser, Reagan, Nixon, Wilson, or Buchanan. (Jackson? I can name several others, but they’re debatable) As you can guess I argued, and he sputtered when I asked for his reasoning. Sh why was Trump so vastly inferior?  What besides Democratic mythology makes Trump so apocalyptically bad? An evil, amoral, corrupt  demagogue, yes, but the worst? I don’t get it.

      • #498246
        jbnw
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        Remember the “not my President” protests after the election? The Portland protests made international news as they blocked the freeways.

        So there was successful decisive propaganda before the start of his term – instead of the traditional honeymoon period, he started with a nasty divorce period.


        @doh1304

      • #498247
        djean111
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        Part was the now-historical hatred spewed by Hillary and her minions against anyone who denied Her anything – I mean, look how many people Love Her, and, especially, look at how much money She spent.  Buying the DNC, getting rid of Bernie (but trying to keep his money and his supporters), assuring Her Wall Street buddies they could have a Social Security addition to profit from – upset apple carts all over the place.

        OR – Trump was a planned diversion.  Or perhaps, you know, someone knew Covid was coming and did not want to manage it, but wanted to make political hay from it.  And where are the greatest profits?  When is fund-raising the most lucrative?  Especially when the campaign “issues” will never really get fixed and thus made useless for fund-raising purposes.  Hey, when someone touts the Democrats giving us Social Security in fucking 1935 – 87 fucking years ago – as a reason to vote for a Democratic presidential candidate who has boasted about how many times he has tried to CUT Social Security, and so fucking clueless that he tries to take credit for a COLA necessitated by inflation under HIS watch (you can be sure this would be Trump’s fault if Trump were in office) – that is just fucking cynical politics in the USA.  Because the always dependable Manchin contingent would fucking veto Social Security if it were proposed today (it would just be a campaign issue, really) and Medicare is on its way to being privatized by Direct Contract or whatever that has been renamed.  “Codify abortion rights”.  Bwahahahaha!

        I doubt anyone on a message board will ever know what really happens.  All is conjecture and propaganda.  The government of the US is, IMO, pretty much like an episode of  Twilight Zone.  Elections, Congress, White House – all of it.  We do not get to see what is behind all of those closed doors.

        IMO.

        America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

        "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

        A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

        • #498277
          closeupready
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          So they run him out of town, and install a real crook. And voila, here we are.

          Trump is a lot of things, but when the media ho’s bloviate how much they hate him, I chuckle and giggle at their displeasure. Ha! Makes me WANT to vote for him on that basis alone…

          The opinions and personal views expressed herein are solely those of the author, and should never be taken seriously.

      • #498261
        Pam2
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        @doh1304

        Probably not the worst, but he had the most negative PR against him that seems to have brainwashed a lot of people.

        Bush/Cheney and the torture program still gets my vote for worst.

         

        • #498262
          jbnw
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          I put Biden as the worst – a war of choice destroying Ukraine and sanctions destroying the Western economy with the highest inflation in 40 years are enough for me.

          • #498264
            MizzGrizz
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            but he isn’t even it with the Unholy Three wreckers of this country…Ronniebillgeorge.

          • #498317
            chknltl
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            I think I may have to put my money on Biden. Not because of what he caused to the citizenry of Ukraine but because he and his chums have carelessly brought the nation’s of our planet to the brink of a nuclear holocaust.

             

            • #498321
              jbnw
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              if Biden hadn’t chosen war in Ukraine over diplomacy and previously agreed peace accords.


              @chknltl

              • #498423
                chknltl
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                @jbnw

                My thinking:

                This goes back much further starting with our failed (at the very least we primarily instigated),-our failed coup in Cuba, aka the Bay of Pigs debacle.

                This led to  Cuba teaming up with Russia a little later in what is known as the Cuban Missile Crises.

                The U.S., in essence claimed the Monroe Doctrine as the basis for our stopping Russia from setting up shop anywhere near the Western Hemisphere and especially in the sovereign country of Cuba. (In other words we were prepared to go to war with Russia but could care less about Cuban sovereignty.)

                Fast forward past Regan’s failed attempts at ending the Cold War, President Bush sr. worked out with Priemier Gorbachev the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty.

                This should have ended the Cold War. Gorbachev, wanting in essence a Soviet version of the Monroe Doctrine, warned President Bush sr. not to allow NATO influence to go past the old Iron Curtain.

                Under Clinton we spit on the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty when we started moving NATO influence Eastwards.

                As the Soviet Union collapsed, we were there to “guide” those old Warsaw Pact countries and our M.I.C. was only too happy as we replaced their old Soviet Union weaponry with Western weaponry.

                I recall reading at one point where there were massive protests in Germany when President Obama was there pushing a reluctant Angela Merkel to send her NATO forces Eastward. Those German protesters well recalled the last time German tanks were operating over there!

                I knew back in the late 1990s that crap was about to hit the fan and why.

                Moving forward Russia had too many red lines that NATO or the U.S. stooges in Ukraine were crossing.

                I am unclear as to what the Minsk Accord was supposed to accomplish but I am clear that the Russians were not going to give up their long held primary naval base in Crimea.

                I also know that the Crimea is a popular Russian vacation and retirement area.

                How much of the rest of the history of this region in my thoughts are modified by propaganda I don’t know but from stories I hear from Scott Ritter or Eva Bartlett, I think that the Minsk Accord was used by Nazi led Ukranian forces as  cover to keep shelling pro-Russian areas next to Russia.

                I agree that had Biden chosen to cut off the supply of arms, money and training to those Ukranian forces things would have turned out better for everyone…

                ….but he didn’t.

                That is why Biden tops my list of worst U.S. President ever.

                 

                 

                • #498425
                  jbnw
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                  I’ve got a long list too, including friends who can’t even file bankruptcies courtesy of the Senator from MBNA.

                  As for the Minsk Accords, they were supposed to bring peace to Ukraine, give the Lugansk and Donetsk oblasts an autonomous status much as Crimea had in the Ukrainian constitution, ensure the rights of the Russian language as also defined in the Ukrainian constitution etc. – the big item was to actually start talk with representatives from the Donbass (Lugansk and Donetsk). Kyiv never even started a discussion.

                  If you want to read the accord (it’s surprisingly short – 13 items on two pages) it’s available from the UN at https://peacemaker.un.org/sites/peacemaker.un.org/files/UA_150212_MinskAgreement_en.pdf .

                  Ukraine would have kept the Donbass as part of Ukraine; now I don’t if Ukraine will even exist, or if it does, what will remain as part of Ukraine.

                  It’s the choice of Zelensky, Germany and France as negotiators, and the UN Security Council, including the US, for not having them implemented.

                  Look at item 4, which was supposed to have been completed with 30 days!!

                  Launch a dialogue, on day 1 of the withdrawal on modalities of local elections in accordance with Ukrainian legislation and the Law of Ukraine “On interim local self-government order in certain areas of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions” as well as on the future regime of these areas based on this Law.
                  Adopt promptly, by no later than 30 days after the date of signing of the document a resolution of the Parliament of Ukraine specifying the area enjoying the special regime, under the Law of Ukraine “On interim local self-government order in certain areas of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions”, based on the line of the Minsk Memorandum of September 19, 2014.


                  @chknltl

    • #498291
      closeupready
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      At the same time, Twitter has become a public forum, and Elon Musk should not have the power to ban people from using the platform, or conversely, to grant them the right. These platforms should be recognized as private hosts for activity which is covered by the First Amendment. So that even Alex Jones should be able to participate.

      The opinions and personal views expressed herein are solely those of the author, and should never be taken seriously.

    • #498313
      doh1304
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      Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot. W misses the list by being in the 21st century, like he misses the list of worst presidents by having never been elected president. A future Gibbon would certainly mention Clinton, and history will certainly have the last ranking of Biden and Obama.

    • #498328
      Ohio Barbarian
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      As AMLO said, the United States has the Statue of Liberty. If she doesn’t stand for free speech, what does she stand for?

      Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

      The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.--Julius Nyerere

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