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    Trump is No Saint, but the Media is Hardly Without Sin

    Independents on both sides of the aisle are getting this and it is worth noting.

    Until it is addressed by the left, no change will ever occur.  Just another repeat of pretty boy Clinton and Mr. Hope & Change Obama is what is coming if we don’t.

    Magical Thyme, senz, OCMI and 6 othersAbakan, NuttyFluffers, djean111, Sadie, Doremus Jessup, StupidRedhead like this
    When you hear people raising reasoned objections to Trump’s policies and appointments, odds are that you’re listening to the sort of thoughtful dissent that’s essential to any semblance of democracy, and it may be worth taking seriously. When you hear people criticizing Trump and his appointees for doing the same thing his rivals would have done, or his predecessors did, odds are that you’re getting the normal hypocrisy of partisan politics, and you can roll your eyes and stroll on. But when you hear people shrieking that Donald Trump is the illegitimate result of a one-night stand between Ming the Merciless and Cruella de Vil, that he cackles in Russian while barbecuing babies on a bonfire, that everyone who voted for him must be a card-carrying Nazi who hates the human race, or whatever other bit of over-the-top hate speech happens to be fashionable among the chattering classes at the moment—why, then, dear reader, you’re hearing a phenomenon as omnipresent and unmentionable in today’s America as sex was in Victorian England. You’re hearing the voice of class bigotry: the hate that dare not speak its name.  -- John Michael Greer

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  • aspirant (1770 posts)
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    1. "Independents on both sides of the aisle"

    Are these the Independent Red Team and Independent Blue Team?

    • StupidRedhead (2246 posts)
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      3. I'm gonna say both.

      Why? Because people are sick sick sick of the status quo being maintained by the establishment. Both red and blue are tired of being lied to by our politicians, the media and each other. The Democratic party presented, no forced another establishment representative on progressives. The Republican side presented us with many too. They were all rejected by both red and blue sides. That is being ignored by the Party and until it is addressed, nothing is going to change.

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  • StupidRedhead (2246 posts)
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    2. The media bears as much responsibility as the DNC and neo libs

    when it comes to Trump being elected.

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    • TM99 (4694 posts)
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      4. The truth is that the majority of the media

      in this country ARE the DNC.  They are just another arm of it.

      When you hear people raising reasoned objections to Trump’s policies and appointments, odds are that you’re listening to the sort of thoughtful dissent that’s essential to any semblance of democracy, and it may be worth taking seriously. When you hear people criticizing Trump and his appointees for doing the same thing his rivals would have done, or his predecessors did, odds are that you’re getting the normal hypocrisy of partisan politics, and you can roll your eyes and stroll on. But when you hear people shrieking that Donald Trump is the illegitimate result of a one-night stand between Ming the Merciless and Cruella de Vil, that he cackles in Russian while barbecuing babies on a bonfire, that everyone who voted for him must be a card-carrying Nazi who hates the human race, or whatever other bit of over-the-top hate speech happens to be fashionable among the chattering classes at the moment—why, then, dear reader, you’re hearing a phenomenon as omnipresent and unmentionable in today’s America as sex was in Victorian England. You’re hearing the voice of class bigotry: the hate that dare not speak its name.  -- John Michael Greer
      • Lord Thomas (1895 posts)
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        11. It always amazed me how people don't see that or just plain ignore it.

        The Only Consistent Thing in Life is Change.

  • Sadie (3073 posts)
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    5. The media

    got this election so wildly wrong because they operate in a self-contained ideological cocoon.

    Trump has proven the media a farce, utterly clueless, at every step of the election process since fall 15.  From the primaries, to the convention, to his debates with Hillary, to the election and now through his first weeks as POTUS.  I refuse to listen as many others have, because it is pointless.  They continue to stubbornly refuse objectivity and their poll numbers tank.

    Trump has made them look like fools time and time again.

      Wake up, peeps, their kids go to Harvard and Yale; your kids go to Iraq & Afghanistan.   
  • closeupready (1767 posts)
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    6. I laugh at the media and their complaints about Trump.

    They ARE fake news networks, all of them.

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  • TRex (3044 posts)
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    7. Fakenews pretending to NOT be part of the mainstream media is comical.

    They shit on Obama for 8 years, without hesitation. Made up bullshit about Dems without hesitation or apology.

    However, NOW that they have someone they like in the WH – the mainstream media is bad and icky.

    I am so glad I turned off cable long ago, the crap is still the same – without facts or meaning.

     

    “The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.” - Obama
    • TM99 (4694 posts)
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      8. Agreed in part

      however Cavuto is not a Republican.  He is an independent and actually did say positive things about Obama.

      His point, however, is still right on the money.  ;)

      When you hear people raising reasoned objections to Trump’s policies and appointments, odds are that you’re listening to the sort of thoughtful dissent that’s essential to any semblance of democracy, and it may be worth taking seriously. When you hear people criticizing Trump and his appointees for doing the same thing his rivals would have done, or his predecessors did, odds are that you’re getting the normal hypocrisy of partisan politics, and you can roll your eyes and stroll on. But when you hear people shrieking that Donald Trump is the illegitimate result of a one-night stand between Ming the Merciless and Cruella de Vil, that he cackles in Russian while barbecuing babies on a bonfire, that everyone who voted for him must be a card-carrying Nazi who hates the human race, or whatever other bit of over-the-top hate speech happens to be fashionable among the chattering classes at the moment—why, then, dear reader, you’re hearing a phenomenon as omnipresent and unmentionable in today’s America as sex was in Victorian England. You’re hearing the voice of class bigotry: the hate that dare not speak its name.  -- John Michael Greer
      • TRex (3044 posts)
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        9. Good point. He and Shep are about the only people on that channel

        that will take on their own people. He is on the money, just the irony of where he is doing it from – had to comment. 

        “The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.” - Obama
        • TM99 (4694 posts)
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          10. Fox on the whole is as bad

          as the rest of them.  The only differences are that during a Dem admin, I look to Fox for news that won’t show up on the ‘liberal’ channels.  And during a GOP admin, I look at the rest for news that won’t show up on the ‘conservative’ channel.

          But mostly I just look elsewhere to vet those.

          When you hear people raising reasoned objections to Trump’s policies and appointments, odds are that you’re listening to the sort of thoughtful dissent that’s essential to any semblance of democracy, and it may be worth taking seriously. When you hear people criticizing Trump and his appointees for doing the same thing his rivals would have done, or his predecessors did, odds are that you’re getting the normal hypocrisy of partisan politics, and you can roll your eyes and stroll on. But when you hear people shrieking that Donald Trump is the illegitimate result of a one-night stand between Ming the Merciless and Cruella de Vil, that he cackles in Russian while barbecuing babies on a bonfire, that everyone who voted for him must be a card-carrying Nazi who hates the human race, or whatever other bit of over-the-top hate speech happens to be fashionable among the chattering classes at the moment—why, then, dear reader, you’re hearing a phenomenon as omnipresent and unmentionable in today’s America as sex was in Victorian England. You’re hearing the voice of class bigotry: the hate that dare not speak its name.  -- John Michael Greer