Trump Outflanks Inept Democratic Party, Pushes Medicare For All People With Coronavirus

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  • #297879

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    Because if a Democratic president tried negotiating with the communists, the apoplexy of the John Birchers would have sent the country off the rails.  Now change that ditty to “only a capitalist grifter like Trump could introduce socialism” and it’s updated to today’s idiocy.

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    would be smart to flip full FDR and Medicare for All right now. With Biden as an opponent tRump would have no problem winning. We would still be in trouble because he has no idea what he is doing in foreign policy but he would be doing what we need right this minute.


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      and Dt’s iq is about … what, 5?

      He would have to actually go insane to do an FDR.

      "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." - Asimov; "If you push something hard enough, it will fall over." - Fud's First Law of Opposition

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    Ohio Barbarian
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    Trump implied that he would consider Medicare for All. He has certainly done nothing to push it. Anyone who believes Trump is serious about this before he actually does something is as foolish as those who believed Hillary Clinton was in any way, shape, or form committed to the progressive agenda of the 2016 Democratic Party platform.

    It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

    If Democrats don’t stand for the people, why should people stand for them?--Jim Hightower

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    Red Cloud
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    retired liberal
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    Or said or did yesterday.
    There is little to no connection there.

    We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.

    If you are wrong, it will be because you are not cynical enough.

    Both major political parties are special interest groups enabling each other for power and money, at the expense of the people they no longer properly serve…

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    NV Wino
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    I think he suffers from Tourette Syndrome du jour. He simply opens his mouth and spouts whatever idea is floating around at the time without it pausing at whatever passes for his brain.

    “As we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore.” Barbara Lee
    “Politicians and pro athletes: The only people who still get paid when they lose.” William Rivers Pitt

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    Steal an issue and a position from the other party. Make some minor modifications and change the details just enough to make it palatable to your own party. Get it passed through Congress. Sell it as a huge historical accomplishment. Expanding Medicare would be perfect for Trump. It would give him a landslide victory and silence Democrats. This opportunity is Trump’s for the taking, since the other party is too timid to pick up on it themselves. The only hope for the Democrats is that Trump is too stubborn and too egotistical to adopt what should be a Democratic issue.

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      Jim Lane
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      Trump, by contrast, just reacts in the moment.  People are upset about lack of health care, I’m the head of the federal government, there are relevant federal programs, so if I toss off a remark about expanding those programs then some people will be happy and will praise me.  That’s as far as his “reasoning” went.  Five minutes later he’d completely forgotten about the idea.

      As others have noted in this thread, he certainly isn’t pushing for it.  It’s not at all comparable to what Clinton did in stealing welfare “reform” from the Republicans.

      In a few days, this idea may again flit through what passes for Trump’s brain and he’ll mention it again.  Again, though, he’ll do absolutely nothing.

      Then, two months from now, he’ll say that he tried to expand Medicare and Medicaid in response to the crisis but that his valiant efforts were thwarted by the Democrats or the media or some other villain.  The worst of it is that some appalling percentage of Republicans will believe him.

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