Trump seems to instinctively believe and side with authoritarians like Kim and MbS, why?

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  • #31028

    peacecorps
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    I can’t think of any democratic leaders, unless you count Netanyahu, whom he believes and supports without question. What could explain that?

    National problems (slavery/racism, income inequality, pathetic health care, weak unions) are not solved with more states' rights. Global problems (climate change, migration, trade, war) are not solved with more national sovereignty.

    A CEO, an American worker and an immigrant sit at a table with a dozen cookies in front of them. The CEO grabs 11 of them, then leans over and warns the worker, "Watch out for the immigrant. He is trying to get your cookie."

  • #31041

    Johnny Rash
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    Hmm…. here is something you should see starting @ 9:50

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  • #31045

    xyzse
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    Ummm…

    I’m sorry but, I thought that was the case with many other Presidents, as long as the country does what America wants.

    Either way, we need to have a dialogue with these individuals.  George Bush instinctively believed Putin, heck even Bill Clinton thought he was trustworthy in dealings.

    Then look at other Authoritarian Governments out there.  It really is varied:

    https://www.npr.org/2012/02/17/147045999/dealing-with-dictators-the-u-s-playbook-varies

    Then go to Saudi Arabia:

    http://theconversation.com/saudi-arabia-is-a-repressive-regime-and-so-are-a-lot-of-us-allies-105106

    Well hell, here’s a handy-dandy list:

    http://global-politics.eu/u-s-friendly-dictators/

    Here’s the thing…  I am quite happy that we are not in a violent/military engagement with such countries at this time.  To me, that is a win, especially since I do not want another US led occupation at this time.  Especially since their reasons do not hold up with scrutiny, beyond whatever our media tells us.

    • #31094

      peacecorps
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      Agreed. Other presidents have embraced dictators who did our will but few have shown the distaste for democratic leaders that Trump shows.

      National problems (slavery/racism, income inequality, pathetic health care, weak unions) are not solved with more states' rights. Global problems (climate change, migration, trade, war) are not solved with more national sovereignty.

      A CEO, an American worker and an immigrant sit at a table with a dozen cookies in front of them. The CEO grabs 11 of them, then leans over and warns the worker, "Watch out for the immigrant. He is trying to get your cookie."

      • #31191

        jerry611
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        A lot of them are polar opposite politically. But really, there aren’t really any good strong leaders. Macron is a phony weasel. Merkle is done. May barely survived a no confidence vote. And now in Canada, Trudeau is having some serious scandals of his own.

        The global leadership right now is actually the poorest it’s been in a long time.

  • #31110

    Ohio Barbarian
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    Trump, as usual, goes to extremes. On the one hand, he says Maduro must give up power in Venezuela because he’s this oppressive dictator who is repressing democracy and starving his people.

    OTOH, he says that he and Kim Jong Un “fell in love.” He loves Kim Jong Un, who is a totalitarian dictator of the Stalinist variety, whose policies have deliberately starved the gods knows how many of his people to death, who surpassed Stalin in personal cruelty by doing things like forcing the family of an executed enemy to mount the head of their loved one on their living room wall–no shit, I saw that years ago somewhere–murdering relatives who were potential threats, etc.

    Trump definitely trends to the Caligula-style of rulers, and shows nothing but disdain for all elected leaders who aren’t out-and-out Fascists like Netanyahu. Netanyahu’s variety just came wrapped in the cloak of some weird interpretations of Judaism and Israeli nationalism. How’s Nutty really any different from Pence in that respect? And he kills those Muslim people, so that’s great as far as Trump is concerned.

    It’s absurd to equate Maduro with either Netanyahu or Kim Jong Un, and outrageous to say we need to impose our own regime on Venezuela while leaving the much more monstrous ones intact in places like North Korea and Saudi Arabia.

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    • #31203

      jerry611
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      Maduro is being overthrown not because he’s a dictator, but because he’s in South America and too cozy with the Russians and the Chinese. He’s violating our Monroe Doctrine by inviting their influence.

      This isn’t just Donald Trump. This is foreign policy that reaches back into the 1800s.

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