Trump seems to instinctively believe and side with authoritarians like Kim and MbS, why?

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    • #31028
      peacecorps
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      I can’t think of any democratic leaders, unless you count Netanyahu, whom he believes and supports without question. What could explain that?

      The Big Lie: "Make the lie big, Make it simple, Keep saying it, And eventually they will believe it." AH.

      "Arguments must therefore be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and instincts, not the intellect." JG

      National issues (slavery/racism, income inequality, pandemics and pathetic health care, weak unions) are not solved with more states' rights. Global problems (climate change, migration, trade, war, pandemics) are not solved with more nationalism.

    • #31041
      Johnny Rash
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      Hmm…. here is something you should see starting @ 9:50

      Sometimes the truth can come out from the strangest places! 

      "Nothing really happens in this world until it is written in stone!"

    • #31045
      xyzse
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      Ummm…

      I’m sorry but, I thought that was the case with many other Presidents, as long as the country does what America wants.

      Either way, we need to have a dialogue with these individuals.  George Bush instinctively believed Putin, heck even Bill Clinton thought he was trustworthy in dealings.

      Then look at other Authoritarian Governments out there.  It really is varied:

      https://www.npr.org/2012/02/17/147045999/dealing-with-dictators-the-u-s-playbook-varies

      Then go to Saudi Arabia:

      http://theconversation.com/saudi-arabia-is-a-repressive-regime-and-so-are-a-lot-of-us-allies-105106

      Well hell, here’s a handy-dandy list:

      http://global-politics.eu/u-s-friendly-dictators/

      Here’s the thing…  I am quite happy that we are not in a violent/military engagement with such countries at this time.  To me, that is a win, especially since I do not want another US led occupation at this time.  Especially since their reasons do not hold up with scrutiny, beyond whatever our media tells us.

      • #31094
        peacecorps
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        Agreed. Other presidents have embraced dictators who did our will but few have shown the distaste for democratic leaders that Trump shows.

        The Big Lie: "Make the lie big, Make it simple, Keep saying it, And eventually they will believe it." AH.

        "Arguments must therefore be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and instincts, not the intellect." JG

        National issues (slavery/racism, income inequality, pandemics and pathetic health care, weak unions) are not solved with more states' rights. Global problems (climate change, migration, trade, war, pandemics) are not solved with more nationalism.

    • #31110
      Ohio Barbarian
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      Trump, as usual, goes to extremes. On the one hand, he says Maduro must give up power in Venezuela because he’s this oppressive dictator who is repressing democracy and starving his people.

      OTOH, he says that he and Kim Jong Un “fell in love.” He loves Kim Jong Un, who is a totalitarian dictator of the Stalinist variety, whose policies have deliberately starved the gods knows how many of his people to death, who surpassed Stalin in personal cruelty by doing things like forcing the family of an executed enemy to mount the head of their loved one on their living room wall–no shit, I saw that years ago somewhere–murdering relatives who were potential threats, etc.

      Trump definitely trends to the Caligula-style of rulers, and shows nothing but disdain for all elected leaders who aren’t out-and-out Fascists like Netanyahu. Netanyahu’s variety just came wrapped in the cloak of some weird interpretations of Judaism and Israeli nationalism. How’s Nutty really any different from Pence in that respect? And he kills those Muslim people, so that’s great as far as Trump is concerned.

      It’s absurd to equate Maduro with either Netanyahu or Kim Jong Un, and outrageous to say we need to impose our own regime on Venezuela while leaving the much more monstrous ones intact in places like North Korea and Saudi Arabia.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

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