kliljedahl (490 posts)March 18, 2017 at 9:39 pm
Trump Supporters Say They're Being Run Out Of Business — And Chicago
NORTH CENTER — Suzzanne Monk was one of the 2 million Illinois residents who voted for Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election — and she says that choice is costing her her neighborhood business.
In a letter to the editor that appeared Friday in Crain’s Chicago Business, Monk, who owns Worlds of Music in North Center with her husband Alexander Duvel, wrote that she has been subjected to steady bullying since the couple’s personal politics became public knowledge.
The letter reads, in part:
“Chicago, you have always been a Democrat-run town, but this year you have become a one-party city terrorizing anyone not in your party for their beliefs…. We will close at the end of April, because we are no longer willing to subject our staff, our customers, our neighbors and ourselves to the daily risk…. We have to leave. In the end, it wasn’t the high taxes, constant road construction or high crime. It wasn’t the unchecked gang violence or political cronyism. In the end, we have to leave because of the hate you are willing to tolerate…. You have a Trump-sized chip on that big shoulder, and it has turned you into a city of fear, hate and division. A city that encourages political bullying.”
She’s set up a GoFundMe seeking $30,000 in donations from “Trump supporters and patriots.”
The pair plan to leave Chicago “as soon as we’re physically able,” she said.
They are closing the shop April 27, she said.xynthee likes this"Actually lots of things happen after you die, just none of them include you..." Louis CK
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closeupready (559 posts) (Reply to original post) March 18, 2017 at 10:27 pm
1. Oh please. How ridiculous is she. Just BEYOND ridiculous.
‘Nothing has happened, but something MAY happen. Therefore, Chicago, *&@# you for not securing my comfort!!!’The opinions and views expressed herein are solely those of the author.
hollys mom (537 posts) (Reply to original post) March 18, 2017 at 10:45 pm
Charles (998 posts) (Reply to hollys mom - post #2) March 18, 2017 at 11:10 pm
3. She learned a thing or two from Trump /nt
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PFunk1 (887 posts) (Reply to original post) March 19, 2017 at 12:06 am
4. If you think that is bad read at this
Looks like that mean is spreading among them.
2cannan (1125 posts) (Reply to PFunk1 - post #4) March 19, 2017 at 7:51 am
5. Conservative, thy name is victim.
It’s always about them and they’re always the victims…
White Evangelicals Believe They Face More Discrimination Than Muslims
According to the 2010 census, the median household income in Peter’s county is a little more than $45,000. By comparison, Detroit’s is about $27,000 and Chicago’s (with a higher cost of living) is just under $49,000. The poverty rate is 17.5 percent in the county and 7.6 percent in Peter’s little town, compared with Chicago’s 22.7 percent. The unemployment rate has hovered around 4 percent.
Peter, though, perceives the region’s economic history as a simple tale of desolation and disappointment. “Everyone around was poor, including the churches,” he wrote, “and charities were nowhere near (this wasn’t a city, after all), so more people had to use some sort of government assistance. Taxes went up [as] the help became more widespread.”
But while Peter’s analysis is at odds with much of the data, his overall story does fit a national pattern. Trump voters report experiencing greater-than-average levels of economic anxiety, even though they tend have better-than-average incomes. And they are inclined to blame economic instability on the federal government—even, sometimes, when it flows from private corporations. Peter wrote about the sense of salvation his neighbors felt when a Walmart came to town: “Now there were enough jobs, even part-time jobs…But Walmart constantly got attacked by unions nationally and with federal regulations; someone lost their job, or their job became part-time.”
Green Dog Dem (1488 posts) (Reply to PFunk1 - post #4) March 19, 2017 at 11:13 am
12. Tim "the Tool Man" Taylor is a winger?
“Hand me that ballot over there, will you, Al?” “I don’t think so, Tim!”Aloha! KamaAina in the hale (house).
jwirr (2815 posts) (Reply to original post) March 19, 2017 at 9:52 am
incognito (1065 posts) (Reply to original post) March 19, 2017 at 10:04 am
7. Actions have consequences.
Dumb ass. You voted for a tyrant and now your customers are voting with their dollars…see how it works?
99Forever (2152 posts) (Reply to original post) March 19, 2017 at 10:24 am
8. You make choices, they have consequences.
I won’t do business with any person or company I know to be a Trump supporter, nor will I refrain from telling them so. If that gets them so butthurt they go out of business, so much the better.
Hobbit709 (1559 posts) (Reply to 99Forever - post #8) March 19, 2017 at 11:02 am
10. There's a form for the butthurt.I won't shut up and I don't waste my time teaching pigs to sing
99Forever (2152 posts) (Reply to Hobbit709 - post #10) March 19, 2017 at 12:46 pm
davidgmills (3901 posts) (Reply to 99Forever - post #8) March 19, 2017 at 7:10 pm
21. Hell I guess I shouldn't do business with anyone who is religious
Since I am an atheist. Religious people fuck up the planet with their fucking religious wars. See how this works?
When are we just going to be Americans for a change?French Revolution; not secession.
99Forever (2152 posts) (Reply to davidgmills - post #21) March 19, 2017 at 8:49 pm
24. What's your point?
I don’t tell you who to do business with and you don’t get to tell me. See how nicely that works?
Populist Prole (379 posts) (Reply to original post) March 19, 2017 at 10:31 am
9. "Patriot" Sigh….
These days, as soon as I see someone throw that word out as a self identifier I peg them as a far-right wacko.
Green Dog Dem (1488 posts) (Reply to original post) March 19, 2017 at 11:10 am
Kermitt Gribble (12 posts) (Reply to original post) March 19, 2017 at 1:18 pm
There is a bar not far from my house that displayed a massive trump sign throughout the election. They closed their doors about a month ago. Not sure what the cause was, but I like to think it was because of that sign.
Ferd Berfel (2976 posts) (Reply to original post) March 19, 2017 at 1:31 pm
15. bullshit scam
Wonder how much trump people are paying them to do this…and you think you’re going to stop this simply by ‘pulling a lever’, in a booth, behind a curtain, every 2 years? Know yourself. And if you need help, call the FBI.
Betty Karlson (2886 posts) (Reply to original post) March 19, 2017 at 1:41 pm
16. I would almost dismiss this – but one fact makes it slightly believable:
Chicago is the city of Rahm – the most vindictive politician to the left of Hillary Clinton. (And that is a huge crowd, to *her* left.)
Whether it drives out Trump supporters or not, I imagine there is a grain of truth in the observation that “Chicago is a city of fear, hate and division”. In the 2016 campaign, we saw those were the three very things that Third Way had to offer us…)"Someone hacks the DNC allowing all of America to see how the DNC operates as one of the most corrupt political machines in national history. Ergo, Hillary Clinton should be installed as President by judicial fiat. And if you do not agree to this scheme you deserve to be brought up on charges of treason because fascism." - NUGrrl, december 2016 “Once a person has been determined to be an UNTRUSTWORTHY LIAR, their pretend stances on important issues are simply not relevant to rational discussion.” – Ida Briggs, September 2016
hopemountain (1178 posts) (Reply to Betty Karlson - post #16) March 19, 2017 at 8:17 pm
23. rahm is not to the left of anyone. he is
firmly in the center of himself…. power and all that. his attacks on teachers/education and covering up for the criminal corporate cronies in “his” city puts him in the same pit with hillary."economic and environmental justice is spiritual work." ~ tom b. k. goldtooth .... "Upon suffering beyond suffering: the Red Nation shall rise again and it shall be a blessing for a sick world; a world filled with broken promises, selfishness and separations; a world longing for light again. I see a time of Seven Generations when all the colors of mankind will gather under the Sacred Tree of Life and the whole Earth will become one circle again. In that day, there will be those among the Lakota who will carry knowledge and understanding of unity among all living things, and the young white ones will come to those of my people and ask for this wisdom. I salute the light within your eyes where the whole Universe dwells. For when you are at that center within you and I am that place within me, we shall be as one." ~ Crazy Horse ~ Oglala Lakota (circa 1840-1877). His words of prophecy to Sitting Bull while sharing a sacred pipe a few short days before his death.
Mnpaul (808 posts) (Reply to original post) March 19, 2017 at 3:20 pm
17. This is the person who is complaining about bullying?
I intentionally broke the like so it didn’t post here – NSFW
It sounds like they have an entitlement mentality. They had a gofundme account to buy the store now they are having one to leave the store.If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything - Hamilton
Caretha (614 posts) (Reply to original post) March 19, 2017 at 5:33 pm
18. You do realize there were
many American citizens who voted for Donald Trump don’t you? That is how the Republicans won the Presidency. You think they are all Nazis? Answer that question if you answer no others in my post.
This article is a fucking hit piece. You may not like Tim Allen, or what his politics are, or who he voted for, but do you believe he has that right, the right, the same right you claim – to vote for who you want? Do you really really in your heart of hearts believe he is a Nazi because he chose to vote what he believed in? Do you know the definition of a Nazi? Obviously the author of this fucking diatribe of a dribble of diarrhea from the mouth author doesn’t. His last sentence of this horrible hit piece tells you what kind of a low life human the author is. Do not align yourselves with his sick mind and self? Here’s his last sentence of the article he wrote.
Lastly, when attending the inauguration of a man who has multiple white supremacists and reportedly card-carrying Nazis in his cabinet, maybe don’t make comparisons to ’30s Germany.
And BTW, if you are too stupid to understand, I’m not a Republican or a Trump voter, but I will always be an American citizen supporter, even if others see things differently than me. When you stop being that, you are nothing. A nothing.
Don’t ever align yourself with this kind of crap or you are as guilty as that sick prick who thinks he can publish any shit he thinks he wants. Do you not recognize this author’s hate? Do you not know that you are better than him/her? That you give this sick small minded human more credence than your own brain because some dick wad pays them to work and write articles that might make them money? God I despair that people are so dumb?
Tim Allen has as much right to attend an inauguration of his choice as President as all those who attended Obamas’. Lord knows Obama’s Presidency has been as closely aligned to the Bush & Clinton cabal as it could be. The same damn neo con crap with high heels on as the Clinton, Bush, Cheney over and over again fuckin same old story. In fact, I think he has outdone them, and we will all pay.
Step away from the propaganda – and use your head for something other than a goddamned hat rack."But the moment eloquence or the language of debate enters, true reasoning becomes impossible. For the purpose of the debater is not to find the truth but to win the argument, and to this end he will often stray as far as possible from the real issues" "Eloquence and debate are designed, not to decide issues, but to sway people, for this reason they lean heavily on appeals to emotion and prejudice, and make use of neat, clever, and sometimes humorous turns of phrase rather than profound analysis of ideas" "Of all this Confucious was contemptuous" Confucious by H. G. Creel 1913, Chapter "The Teacher"
goodgirl (2179 posts) (Reply to Caretha - post #18) March 19, 2017 at 6:23 pm
20. Not a Trump voter myself, I voted for Jill.
But I am not going to fall for the “Trump voters are racist Nazis” line that is being pushed. I saw a whole group of Trump voters at Bernie’s Town Hall last week, and what I saw were people who want to have a future, want to have something to hope for. I refuse to hate them. I don’t know that couple in the article, but I agree with her statement “It’s OK to hate the candidate; it’s not OK to hate the people who voted.”
I’m better than that. And if we want Trump voters to help us in the future, bullying and shaming won’t work.Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. John F. Kennedy
davidgmills (3901 posts) (Reply to goodgirl - post #20) March 19, 2017 at 7:14 pm
22. I voted for Jill too. But I don't hate people who voted for Trump.
America is about as divisive as I have ever seen. Trump haters are the antithesis of birthers.French Revolution; not secession.
The Crone (2771 posts) (Reply to Caretha - post #18) March 19, 2017 at 10:01 pm
25. Trump has done some things that I like –
Whereas Hillary Rodham Clinton would not have done them. (I just can’t see HERSELF offering up a public stance against sex trafficking, as The Donald did on February 23rd. Her husband is far too close to Epstein.)
But she would have had far better window dressing than Trump has. She somehow kept her “environmental” logo as the Great White Earth Mother for many many years, with so many uninformed voters. When it was her State Department that hoped to get the Keystone XL pipeline through before people noticed it. (And she only came out against it in Oct 2014 right before the Congress went fully Republican – she has done that NUMEROUS times. Publicly supporting the will of the 99% right before it is becomes impossible to actually accomplish a single thing for the good of the people.)"Let us not seek the Republican answer nor the Democratic answer but the right answer." John F. Kennedy America is the only country that has real lemons in its furniture polish, and artificial lemon flavoring in its lemonade!
bjo59 (3585 posts) (Reply to Caretha - post #18) March 19, 2017 at 10:12 pm
kliljedahl (490 posts) (Reply to Caretha - post #18) March 20, 2017 at 7:51 am
27. Excuse me, did you read the article I posted?
Where was Tim Allen mentioned in it? Suzzanne Monk & Alexander Duvel were though."Actually lots of things happen after you die, just none of them include you..." Louis CK
Caretha (614 posts) (Reply to kliljedahl - post #27) March 20, 2017 at 6:05 pm
I was blind and half asleep, so I replied to the wrong post in this thread. Please forgive me."But the moment eloquence or the language of debate enters, true reasoning becomes impossible. For the purpose of the debater is not to find the truth but to win the argument, and to this end he will often stray as far as possible from the real issues" "Eloquence and debate are designed, not to decide issues, but to sway people, for this reason they lean heavily on appeals to emotion and prejudice, and make use of neat, clever, and sometimes humorous turns of phrase rather than profound analysis of ideas" "Of all this Confucious was contemptuous" Confucious by H. G. Creel 1913, Chapter "The Teacher"
Gallagher (416 posts) (Reply to original post) March 19, 2017 at 5:44 pm
19. Her loss of business wouldn't have anything to do with this, would it?
http: //imgur.com/dLxldIj You’ll need to get rid of the spaces in the link to view. Didn’t want to cause any problems by posting the pic.